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Title: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: Epistaxis on May 13, 2009, 12:00:14 AM
If I have I am Patience activated, and I go in with a rescue attempt with Ahimaaz or Rhoda then retreat, can I convert an EC?

I am Patience: Green Brigade Enhancement/Artifact that states "If your rescue attempt failed, you may convert a non-Warrior Class Human to a Green Brigade hero at the end of your turn.

Ahimaaz: A Teal 4/2 Priest that states: Protect this hero from capture. You may look at one opponent's hand or cards face down at a Site. You may then withdraw Hero from battle unharmed.

Rhoda: Green Brigade Hero that states: You may look at the top card of your deck. You may then retreat from the battle.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: The Schaef on May 13, 2009, 12:12:47 AM
As long as there was an available Lost Soul so that it was a rescue attempt.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: BubbleBoy on May 13, 2009, 07:40:01 AM
And as long as you convert a non-warrior class human to a green bigade hero.

EDIT: Wait, is that the actual wording? Are you really able to convert heroes to green as well?
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on May 13, 2009, 07:43:30 AM
And as long as you convert a non-warrior class human to a green bigade hero.

EDIT: Wait, is that the actual wording? Are you really able to convert heroes to green as well?

No, that is an incorrect wording:

I Am Patience

Type: Covenant • Brigade: Green • Ability: 2 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: At the end of your turn, if your rescue attempt failed you may convert one human Evil Character (except warrior class) to a green brigade Hero. • Identifiers: NT • Verse: II Peter 3:9 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Common)

When you post, make sure you copy the ability from the REG, don't just type it by memory.  :)
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: BubbleBoy on May 13, 2009, 07:45:35 AM
Alright, thanks. That's what I remember. :P

PS: Spy works with this combo also.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: Korunks on May 13, 2009, 09:47:15 AM
by retreat do you mean you can just retreat if you want,  play a card to get out of battle or die, but return because of your hero's special ability?  If you can just retreat at any time I am missing a bunch of combo's.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on May 13, 2009, 09:53:25 AM
you must use the ability when you first enter battle or not use it at all.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: The Schaef on May 13, 2009, 10:33:18 AM
Right, you can only withdraw when there is a special ability that says "withdraw".  In the case of these three Heroes, you have the opportunity to take a sneak peek and then pull out without risking the block.  Once the opponent blocks, you're committed.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: Yankee1 on May 14, 2009, 09:28:47 PM
Hey Schaef If you go to holdersheroes.com check out the conversion deck "Playing"the Great Commision:An Introduction to Conversion Decks ,At the bottom of the third paragraph it says :Rhoda, Spy, and Ahimaaz make  especially good use of (I Am Patience) because of their ability to withdraw from battle before a blocker is is presented-which still counts as a failed rescue attempt." Is there a place in the Reg that says otherwise???
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: The Schaef on May 14, 2009, 10:40:45 PM
No.  That's how they work.  That's consistent with what I said above, also, about leaving the battle before a blocker comes out.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: crustpope on May 15, 2009, 11:22:25 AM
Yeah, a little CoM or Golden Cow can put that to a halt real quick.  Prof pulled a deck on me with this mechanic and if I had had one more art, I could have pounded him.
Title: Re: I Am Patience + Ahimaaz and Rhoda?
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on May 15, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
No.  That's how they work.  That's consistent with what I said above, also, about leaving the battle before a blocker comes out.
+1, that is one of the great foundations of stonewall. ;)
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