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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Gohanick on November 23, 2008, 01:03:56 AM

Title: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: Gohanick on November 23, 2008, 01:03:56 AM: I hate to give away this combo, but I think it's worth the sacrifice to find out of it works or not

Here's the cards:

House in Bethany

Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect contents from evil cards. If opponent's demon blocks your Luke or John Hero, reveal the top seven cards of opponent's deck. You may discard one revealed evil card or put a revealed Lost Soul in play.

Seven Wicked Spirits
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Orange • Ability: 7 / 7 • Class: None • Special Ability: You may interrupt all Fortresses and exchange this Evil Character with any other Evil Character in play or set-aside area.

Here's the situation:
I previously used my Seven WIcked Spirits and it is now in my opponent's territory. If they choose to block with it, would this activate House in Bethany. *Key words: "opponent's demon"*
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: DaClock on November 23, 2008, 01:49:05 AM: I don't think that opponent's demon means SWS. They control it without owning it, similar to banding.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 23, 2008, 09:08:13 AM: I believe the ruling is that whoever controls a card at the time is considered the owner of it (except in the case of discarding or putting into the deck).
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on November 23, 2008, 01:11:25 PM: Quote from: BubbleBoy on November 23, 2008, 09:08:13 AM
I believe the ruling is that whoever controls a card at the time is considered the owner of it (except in the case of discarding or putting into the deck).
I believe SWS'd ecs count as yours.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: JSB23 on November 23, 2008, 01:46:28 PM: yes but, SWS interrupts House and exchanges, so unless they exchange for another demon it won't work. Right?
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on November 23, 2008, 02:19:42 PM: Correct.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: JSB23 on November 23, 2008, 02:33:42 PM: Woot
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 23, 2008, 02:39:54 PM: If you could find a way to negate his special ability and then choose him as a blocker...:dunno:
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: JSB23 on November 23, 2008, 02:44:42 PM: You could just chose any other demon and forget the special ability ::)
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 23, 2008, 02:46:11 PM: Then it wouldn't be your opponent's demon.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: Gohanick on November 23, 2008, 02:51:28 PM: If your opponent chooses not to exchange SWS when it is in their territory (ex no targets) however, it will still activate House in Bethany?
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: JSB23 on November 23, 2008, 02:53:42 PM: yes, but so will any demon
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 23, 2008, 03:25:35 PM: I can't imagine why anyone would choose SWS to block if they weren't going to use his SA, especially with House in Bethany up.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on November 23, 2008, 03:42:05 PM: If someone had a bunch of orange enh vs a large luke hero?
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: DaClock on November 23, 2008, 03:55:07 PM: Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on November 23, 2008, 03:42:05 PM
If someone had a bunch of orange enh vs a large luke hero?

Haha, orange is weak. You're silly.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: Gohanick on November 23, 2008, 04:04:56 PM: one final question...
If you play a choose the blocker card and target one of your own demons for your opponent to control, it would not activate house in bethany corrrect?
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on November 23, 2008, 04:05:34 PM: Correct.
Title: Re: House in Bethany - Finally has a strategic use! (unless proven wrong)
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 23, 2008, 06:17:47 PM: Yes, that's why they said, "If opponent's demon blocks your Luke or John Hero..." Otherwise, it would be very easy to abuse with ctb.