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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Gabe on June 11, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
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If the cost is payed on the "Discarder LS", forcing a player to discard a good card, can they choose to discard a face down Covenant in their Artifact pile since their Artifact pile is technically in their territory?
Lost Soul Psalms 119:150 (‘Discarder’)
Type: Lost Soul • Brigade: • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: When you draw this card, you may discard an evil card from your territory to make an opponent discard a good card from hand or territory. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Psalms 119:150
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Based on the way the other argument about face down cards is going, I don't think you can target a face down covenant as a "good" card.
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I don't think you can target face down cards period. They aren't considered "in play," right? At least that's what I have gathered.
BTW, while we're on this general topic, was it ruled that ANB could or could not shuffle artifact piles?
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Is the face down card being targeted, or the player? If the player is being targeted, I think it'd work.
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Based on the way the other argument about face down cards is going, I don't think you can target a face down covenant as a "good" card.
Sorry, I stopped reading that thread after the second page so I just went back and re-read it. Thanks for pointing me back there, Aggie. According to Schaef's position (although he did say to get a second opinion) it seems like you can discard a Covenant that's face down in your Artifact Pile.
ANB target all cards in the "Field of Play". Field of Play is a location, and face-down cards still reside in a location. The default state of "in play" is more like a condition, the same way "in battle" is a status for the cards engaged in the current battle only, while "Field of Battle" targets all cards in that location.
Since the Artifact Pile is a location that resides in your territory, and a Covenant or Curse keeps it's allignment in the Artifact Pile I would think that discarding a face down Covenant to satisfy the "FOOF Discarder LS" would be a legal play.