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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Minion of Jesus on April 20, 2012, 08:29:33 AM
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Are you allowed to have 3 Fallen Warriors in your T1 deck? I say this because his ability might be an identifier. Then he would have no SA.
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His ability is not an identifier, one per 50 in a T1 deck. Sorry.
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Just making sure, because I've been told his ability is a CBN.
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CBN doesn't matter, it doesn't affect deck-building.
What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.
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Just making sure, because I've been told his ability is a CBN.
His ability is not CBN, The addition from a previous turn is CBN. Just for clarification.
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It's not CBN. There is a rule that a trigger ability cannot be negated after the phase it was activated.
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Are you allowed to have 3 Fallen Warriors in your T1 deck? I say this because his ability might be an identifier. Then he would have no SA.
Yes if your deck is 154 cards
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What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.
This is incorrect. Fallen Warrior is considered generic, despite the fact that the original passage may be referring to Goliath.
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Um... Does Isaiah mention Goliath?
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Fallen Warrior gains the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks. • Play As: Increase Fallen Warrior with the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks (stalemate or defeat). • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Human, Philistia, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: Isaiah 9:5 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Common)
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Um... Does Isaiah mention Goliath?
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Fallen Warrior gains the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks. • Play As: Increase Fallen Warrior with the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks (stalemate or defeat). • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Human, Philistia, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: Isaiah 9:5 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Common)
The passage sheds a little light on the issue, though I admit, I mostly say that because I've heard it before. That passage does reference things that happened in the past though.
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How does this referance Goliath? I'm confused
For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
-Isaiah 9:5
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Read more than just that verse. Read the actual chapter.
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There is no evidence that the reference refers at all to Goliath. Philistines are mentioned briefly in the chapter, but that it not why Fallen Warrior is a Philistine. The reason he is a Philistine is because he is wearing headgear of a Philistine (due to the art being a picture of Goliath). However, he is not the same as Goliath.
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There is no evidence that the reference refers at all to Goliath. Philistines are mentioned briefly in the chapter, but that it not why Fallen Warrior is a Philistine. The reason he is a Philistine is because he is wearing headgear of a Philistine (due to the art being a picture of Goliath). However, he is not the same as Goliath.
Ah, it was the artwork, not the reference. My mistake - I knew it was something about the card that made people argue it was Goliath.
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One time I got him to somewhere around 30/30 with Philistine Chariot and Horses. Of course, he got killed once I ran out of battle winners... Why did they choose artwork of Goliath's head getting mashed when it's not Goliath. (I already knew he was not Goliath. I'm just curious).
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It was a handy picture of a warrior getting stomped.
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Quite a few pictures in Redemption get reassigned. Like half the Kings from the Kings expansion have pictures of David, Saul or Solomon on them.
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What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.
Where did this come from? I can have 3x Gideon in my deck.
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gideon has no sa fallen warrior has a sa end of story
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gideon has no sa fallen warrior has a sa end of story
Which was my point. It has nothing to do with being unique.
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What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.
Where did this come from? I can have 3x Gideon in my deck.
I should clarify I meant this as "character with same art same name and same SA."
Unique was a very poor choice of wording.