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Title: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: megamanlan on April 27, 2012, 07:57:37 PM: I'm wondering, shouldn't Esau be a Cannanite or at least an Edomite?
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: jbeers285 on April 27, 2012, 08:10:49 PM: is there precendent in redemption for a hero to be given an evil identifier?
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: Redoubter on April 27, 2012, 08:14:07 PM: Quote from: jbeers285 on April 27, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
is there precendent in redemption for a hero to be given an evil identifier?

The only evil identifier I can think of is "magician". And there are Red Canaanites, so yes if you consider all Canaanites evil.

Civilizations =/= evil or good by birth.
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: jbeers285 on April 27, 2012, 08:15:21 PM: ok gotcha
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: Drrek on April 27, 2012, 08:24:13 PM: Quote from: Redoubter on April 27, 2012, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: jbeers285 on April 27, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
is there precendent in redemption for a hero to be given an evil identifier?

The only evil identifier I can think of is "magician". And there are Red Canaanites, so yes if you consider all Canaanites evil.

Civilizations =/= evil or good by birth.

Demon is also an "evil only" identifier
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: Chris on April 27, 2012, 08:28:58 PM: I'm reasonably sure Heretic is the third and last evil identifier.
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: Praeceps on April 27, 2012, 08:43:06 PM: Quote from: megamanlan on April 27, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
I'm wondering, shouldn't Esau be a Cannanite or at least an Edomite?

Esau wasn't a Canaanite, he was a Hebrew, and he doesn't get the Edomite identifier for the same reason Jacob doesn't get the Israelite Identifier.
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: megamanlan on April 27, 2012, 08:52:04 PM: This has yet to be explained to me. As far as I can tell. He built the city of Edom so he should at least be an Edomite and I thought that the Edomites are still Cannanites.
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: Professoralstad on April 28, 2012, 03:49:13 PM: I would rule Esau to be an Edomite if such an identifier becomes necessary, but from what I have seen, Edomites were distinct from Canaanites, so he should not be a Canaanite.
Title: Re: Esau a Cannanite?
Post by: megamanlan on April 28, 2012, 06:16:03 PM: Okay, I wasn't sure about the Cannanite part.