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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2010, 02:38:57 PM »
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Its just the semi-annual discussion about Insert widely questioned Redemption topic here. It'll probably come up again around march/april again :p
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2010, 03:19:41 PM »
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Its just the semi-annual discussion about Insert widely questioned Redemption topic here. It'll probably come up again around march/april again :p
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the way things are going they will probably have another new set by april and then there will be a plethera of contindrum to be solved.
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2010, 04:35:50 PM »
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...They only release one set a year...

...At Nats...

...in August.

How long have you been playing?
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2010, 07:24:47 PM »
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I think he's hoping for starter decks, which are usually released near Easter.  (At least, EF and GH were.)
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2010, 07:26:51 PM »
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this is only his first week playing

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2010, 07:40:31 PM »
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and he is alredy a full member lol its like how Ron Sias is still considered a new member on the boards but has bin here since 10 years ago...
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2010, 07:44:12 PM »
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I know that he actually has been playing for three or four years ( I think :-[)

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2010, 07:52:15 PM »
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this is only his first week playing

I know that he actually has been playing for three or four years ( I think :-[)

ur contradicting urself lol
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2010, 08:01:50 PM »
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I know ;)

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2010, 08:05:53 PM »
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And how my deck is still terrible, but somehow I'm a Hero Member.  Most likely it's because I like to blab on and on.
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2010, 03:44:57 PM »
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So IS Gabe + Prof a consensus?  No window for Dominant play between artifact activation?
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2010, 03:51:11 PM »
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If I remember correctly, Elder status involves the ability to make an official ruling.  So, I guess so?
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2010, 03:56:12 PM »
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if two elders agree, it's basically official.

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2010, 09:24:46 AM »
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if two elders agree, it's basically official.

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2010, 10:15:45 AM »
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if two elders agree, it's basically official.
it's official unless there are more Elders rooting for the opposite side and if they're tied then they have to disprove the other theory. I agree with both Elders rulings on this that there is never an open window to destroy an artifact then activate Lampy.

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2010, 10:55:19 AM »
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However, the cheat sheet says I can (as many times as I want):
b) Place an artifact face down in your artifact pile
c) Activate an artifact by placing an artifact face up on your artifact pile (limit once per turn)
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2010, 11:05:41 AM »
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However, the cheat sheet says I can (as many times as I want):
b) Place an artifact face down in your artifact pile
c) Activate an artifact by placing an artifact face up on your artifact pile (limit once per turn)

Except for that limit on the artifact activation, you do them as much as you want.
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2010, 12:17:19 PM »
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However, the cheat sheet says I can (as many times as I want):
b) Place an artifact face down in your artifact pile
c) Activate an artifact by placing an artifact face up on your artifact pile (limit once per turn)

maybe the cheat sheet is outdated.
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2010, 07:28:03 PM »
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However, the cheat sheet says I can (as many times as I want):
b) Place an artifact face down in your artifact pile
c) Activate an artifact by placing an artifact face up on your artifact pile (limit once per turn)
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2010, 10:17:15 PM »
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Yes, but I can place an artifact face-down as many times as I want (thus rendering it out of play)
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2010, 11:59:13 PM »
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but when you place that artifact face down, then you play a dominant- you have thus declared that you have moved on from your artifact activation part of the phase. You can still continue to place more artifacts face-down if you wish though :)

do i agree? no
does it matter? no

does this mean that i cant deactivate an artifact, play a territory class enhancement, and activate 6 artifacts after that? (during my prep phase of course)
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2010, 12:31:22 AM »
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Hey,

I have been wondering, if I have Lampstand in my Temple can I activate a different artifact in the temple (say Holy of Holies) which sends Lampstand back to my artifact pile, play Burial, and then activate Lampstand on my artifact Pile?

Tschow,

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I don't see why this situation wouldn't be allowed.  Dominants can be played at any time.  There's nothing that says you can't activate one artifact in a temple, play a dom, then finish out the phase by activating another in your artifact pile.  The point that Lampstand is being deactivated because of the first activation shouldn't make a difference of weather or not you can do that....

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2010, 12:48:26 AM »
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placing an art down and deactivating an art is two different things. Once you deactivate an art, at that moment you have to reactivate an art or not. from sir nobody's example the art is sent to the artpile facedown if another temple/tab art is activated. same as art pile i would say- lampstand up-deactivate to activate diff art in art pile -play evil dom reactivate lampy in temple/tab should work.
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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2010, 01:10:13 AM »
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No, it is not the same.  You may only activate one artifact per place per turn.  You can't activate something in your art pile, play a dom, then activate something in your artifact pile.  And you do choose to deactivate it when you send it to your artifact pile, but because you have another place that you haven't activated an artifact you can 're'activate it in your artifact pile.  There's nothing that says you have to activate all artifacts in all piles at the exact same time.  There's also nothing that says you can't deactivate and then reactivate the same artifact in the same turn, it's only that you can't deact then react in the same place.  I don't see why, if art is in your temple, you couldn't just put it down (choosing to activate nothing in your temple), play your evil dom, then activate Lamp in your art pile (choosing to activate an artifact).

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Re: DoN and Lampstand again
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2010, 02:04:27 AM »
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Hey,

I have been wondering, if I have Lampstand in my Temple can I activate a different artifact in the temple (say Holy of Holies) which sends Lampstand back to my artifact pile, play Burial, and then activate Lampstand on my artifact Pile?

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
I would say that in Tim's example you could activate Lampstand as long as it is in another location. The rulebook states:

Preparation Phase – You may perform any number of these actions in any order. Actions may be repeated unless a
limit is stipulated....

b) Place an artifact face down in your artifact pile.
c) Activate an artifact by placing an artifact face up on your artifact pile (limit once per turn).

So, the only action that has a limit on it is placing an artifact face up on your artifact pile. Since multiple artifacts can be activated in different places during the preparation phase (one in each place), an evil dominant can be played in between the multiple activations.

Mike
 
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