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Title: DoN
Post by: Jonesy on September 15, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
Is DoN considered an idol?
Title: Re: DoN
Post by: kram1138 on September 15, 2015, 07:40:26 PM
No. But I believe it depicts an idol
Title: Re: DoN
Post by: wyatt_marcum on September 15, 2015, 08:06:09 PM
I think it would.
Nehushtan
of copper; a brazen thing a name of contempt given to the serpent Moses had made in the wilderness ( Numbers 21:8 ), and which Hezekiah destroyed because the children of Israel began to regard it as an idol and "burn incense to it." The lapse of nearly one thousand years had invested the "brazen serpent" with a mysterious sanctity; and in order to deliver the people from their infatuation, and impress them with the idea of its worthlessness, Hezekiah called it, in contempt, "Nehushtan," a brazen thing, a mere piece of brass ( 2 Kings 18:4 ).
Title: Re: DoN
Post by: kram1138 on September 15, 2015, 08:20:43 PM
It wouldn't be an idol since it is Destruction of Nehushtan. The card doesn't represent the idol, but the action of its destruction. The reg says an idol must represent the actual physical idol or representation of a false god.
Title: Re: DoN
Post by: Praeceps on September 15, 2015, 08:23:23 PM
Although DoN is missing from the "Depicting an Idol" listing. Not sure if that is an oversight, or if it, actually, does not count.
Title: Re: DoN
Post by: Redoubter on September 15, 2015, 11:17:29 PM
Although DoN is missing from the "Depicting an Idol" listing. Not sure if that is an oversight, or if it, actually, does not count.

I don't see it as counting.  The definition was expanded (it used to just be that it had show a depiction of a false god), but I'm still not sure that it fits.

Quote from: REG 3.0.0 > Depicting an Idol
Depicting an Idol
A card is considered to be Depicting an Idol if it has an idol illustrated in the card art. In this case, an idol is a statue or physical representation of a false god or a being found in a false religion.

There is plenty of evidence that there were false religious practices concerning the image, but there is no evidence that the beast it depicted was considered to be a being or god in this practice.  Rather, the object itself was worshiped, instead of God who was behind its power.  This is a false religious practice, but no depiction of an idol per Redemption definitions.
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