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Title: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: Ken4Christ4ever on July 22, 2009, 10:52:51 PM

Dodai the Ahohite
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Red • Ability: 8 / 4 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: If all your Heroes are warrior class, discard an occupied Site. May band to Eleazar. Cannot be negated if opponent has less than ten cards in deck. • Attributes: Fought Earthly Battle • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Chronicles 27:4 • Availability: Rock of Ages (Set 11)


Does his special ability relate to Heroes in my set-aside area, or just those in-play?

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: LukeSnyder on July 22, 2009, 10:56:08 PM

Special abilities default to in play, so I would assume that it does not relate to Heros in set-aside.

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: Gabe on July 23, 2009, 08:14:50 AM

I'm going to assume that your specifically talking about the qualifying portion of his SA that says "If all of your Heroes are warrior class..."

"Your" is defined as "own and control" for Redemption purposes.  Since you own and control Heroes in your set aside area they need to be warrior class for Dodai's SA to work.

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 23, 2009, 09:05:23 AM

So, do you technically not control heroes in your draw pile for this purpose? Or is it just that you can't count them because...well, they're in your deck? What if you had a non-wc hero on the top of your d/c pile - would Dodai's ability still work?

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 23, 2009, 09:45:43 AM

I agree with Luke.  Special abilities default to "in play" unless otherwise stated.  Therefore, Dodai's SA would really read:

"If all your Heroes [in play] are warrior class, discard an occupied Site. May band to Eleazar. Cannot be negated if opponent has less than ten cards in deck."

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: happyjosiah on July 23, 2009, 10:16:43 AM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on July 23, 2009, 09:45:43 AM

I agree with Luke.  Special abilities default to "in play" unless otherwise stated.  Therefore, Dodai's SA would really read:

"If all your Heroes [in play] are warrior class, discard an occupied Site. May band to Eleazar. Cannot be negated if opponent has less than ten cards in deck."

Agree. Set aside is out of play. It shouldn't count any more than cards in your discard pile or draw pile unless otherwise specified.

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: frisian9 on July 23, 2009, 09:12:20 PM

Correct - "in play" is the default condition if nothing is specified. See http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/defaultconditions231.htm (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/defaultconditions231.htm).

Mike

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 23, 2009, 09:45:32 PM

Gabe almost had me there; good one! ;)

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 24, 2009, 12:06:06 AM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 23, 2009, 09:45:32 PM

Gabe almost had me there; good one! ;)

You should remember this thread, because Gabe is almost never wrong.  So this thread is hereby classified as an ultrarare :)

Title: Re: Dodai the Ahohite
Post by: Smokey on July 24, 2009, 12:09:05 AM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on July 24, 2009, 12:06:06 AM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 23, 2009, 09:45:32 PM

Gabe almost had me there; good one! ;)

You should remember this thread, because Gabe is almost never wrong.  So this thread is hereby classified as an ultrarare :)

Anyone want to sticky this?  :P