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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Crashfach2002 on March 04, 2009, 09:48:14 PM
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Say I block with Red Dragon "Immune to human heroes." I'm attacked by Simeon "If you have a female Genesis Hero in play, opponent must discard an evil card from hand or territory. May band to Levi." Say there is a Genesis female. He discards my only evil card in hand. Then plays Dove "Opponent must discard an evil card from hand of battle." So I have to discard my Red Dragon. So does he rescue a lost soul since I was immune to him, or does he win the lost soul.
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I'm probably the least official person here, but in this case I believe Dove doesn't do anything.
Red Dragon can't be hurt by Humans or enhancements used by them. Beings you don't have an evil card in hand, the only option is battle. However, Red Dragon is protected from it so the special ability on Dove so it doesn't do anything.
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You would have to negate the immunity on Red Dragon first, otherwise your humans are useless.
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I've always played where if you do not evil cards in hand, Dove would force you to discard your own Evil Character. Since it's your choice, you are the one discarding him.
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Immune characters cannot be targeted by the cards they're immune to. Even though the opponent chooses, it is Dove that's doing the targeting. In that rare case, your hand is revealed to show you can't discard anything from hand, and nothing happens.
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Hey,
Immune characters cannot be targeted by the cards they're immune to. Even though the opponent chooses, it is Dove that's doing the targeting. In that rare case, your hand is revealed to show you can't discard anything from hand, and nothing happens.
I know the "nothing happens" part is right. But are you sure about the revealing your hand part?
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Yeah, he's right. If you are supposed to discard something from your hand and can't because you don't have any, then you have to reveal your hand to your opponent. This doesn't happen very often, so it is a little known rule. However, Tim Mierz is likely to know it due to his deck that he won Nats with. There were probably a number of times where his opponent's didn't have any evil cards to discard, and had to show their hand instead :)
Oh yeah, it is in the REG too btw.
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Hey,
Oh yeah, it is in the REG too btw.
I feel like a noob :) can you point me to it, I'm not having any luck finding it?
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Instant Abilities, Discard or Remove, Special Conditions:
"If you are required to discard a specific card from hand and you do not have that card in your hand, you must show your hand."
I take "specific card" to mean "specific category of card."
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Hey,
Ah, found it! ...I guess that's what I get for keeping 11 different versions of the REG on my computer, sometimes I end up looking in the wrong one.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Don't worry, SirNobody, Prof had to teach me that one too. ::)
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That's definitely one of the more obscure rules. I've had people think I was either accusing them of cheating or was trying to cheat myself.
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Unfortunately, these rules exist in order to stem off cheating, same reason you have to show a searched card unless it's "any card", so you don't search for an Enhancement and grab Son of God. Sad it has to exist in a Christian card game but gotta cover all the bases.
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Sad it has to exist in a Christian card game but gotta cover all the bases.
... just like Lou Pinella, who covers all the bases and the umpire's shoes during a tirade... :o