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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: sepjazzwarrior on June 08, 2017, 09:31:27 AM
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noob question I feel, but could david the shepherd add the character he searches for to battle, since he just adds the hero to play and battle is in play? Thanks
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"To play" is referring to putting it in your territory. "Add to battle" is adding it to battle. So it would have to have "add to battle" in the SA for it to be banded in; otherwise, the hero gets placed in your territory.
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but why? to put it "in play" should just refer to "in play" if it just ment "in territory" it would say 'in territory" battle is in play so why to put it in there?
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Because battle and territory, though both are in play, are very different dynamically. That's why an "add to battle" vs "put it into play" was created in the rules to specify where a certain card goes for a certain reason(s). There's purposeful design and strategy behind where the card goes once it's searched for.
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but if the card can only go to territory, why doesn't it just say " in territory"?
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I know you weren't around for awhile sepjazz, but this discussion has already happened and Watchman is correct.
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can someone explain why he is correct though? So I can understand the login behind it? if the card can only go to territory, why say "in play" where there are placed in play it cant go?
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can someone explain why he is correct though? So I can understand the login behind it? if the card can only go to territory, why say "in play" where there are placed in play it cant go?
We have default conditions for card types in Redemption. When you put a character on the table the default is that the character goes to your territory. The only abilities that can put a character in battle are abilities that "band" or "add to battle". David does neither so the default condition is what happens.
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then why not just say in territory on the card? seems a lot simpler to just do that...
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then why not just say in territory on the card? seems a lot simpler to just do that...
In play is shorter and the default. We use that same language on a lot of cards these days.
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Ah, those good old days when Valley o' Dry Bones was played to bring Heroes into battle. Probably played wrong even then, but if our tournament host thought you could do it, then it was done. 8)
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so the default for everything is in play, and the default for the default for in play is not in battle...yup...simpler... :)
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so the default for everything is in play, and the default for the default for in play is not in battle...yup...simpler... :)
The default for targeting is "in play." You're not targeting Field of Battle or Territory when you put a Hero in play--the Hero itself is the only thing targeted. It is simple when you don't try to twist things.
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so the default for everything is in play, and the default for the default for in play is not in battle...yup...simpler... :)
Jazz, I asked the same question you asked about a year ago. I personally think the wording should be "in territory" as "put it in play" can be construed to also mean in battle (unless you know that it must say "add to battle") since those are also in play, such as a card that's played in battle that reads "discard an evil character in play" can be targeted in battle or in territory. But alas, I'm not on the elder team, and it's not going to be changed at this point because the elder team is also trying to streamline the wording on the new cards, which has its pros and cons. We just have to know the rule and teach it to others if the question comes up during play or on the forum.
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so the default for everything is in play, and the default for the default for in play is not in battle...yup...simpler... :)
#ThatJazzSarcasm
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so the default for everything is in play, and the default for the default for in play is not in battle...yup...simpler... :)
#ThatJazzSarcasm
We couldn't tell. ;)