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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 11:02:24 AM

Title: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 11:02:24 AM: Crowds: While you have drawn 4 or fewer cards this turn, protect your hand and deck from opponents' cards.

Just to clarify, if I rescue the "When rescued draw 1" lost soul, I don't get to draw because that is my opponent's card and it can't make me draw a card from my deck right?
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Gabe on May 12, 2018, 11:08:13 AM: Protecting your deck doesn’t protect you from forced draw because draw abilities don’t target the deck.

I think they target the player.
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 11:15:14 AM: Quote from: Gabe on May 12, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Protecting your deck doesn’t protect you from forced draw because draw abilities don’t target the deck.

I think they target the player.

So forced drawling like that LS, Arepagus, Kindness (EC) still trigger Abom through the Crowds LS then?
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Gabe on May 12, 2018, 11:38:28 AM: Quote from: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: Gabe on May 12, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Protecting your deck doesn’t protect you from forced draw because draw abilities don’t target the deck.

I think they target the player.

So forced drawling like that LS, Arepagus, Kindness (EC) still trigger Abom through the Crowds LS then?

Yes
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 12:07:59 PM: So is Mayhem considered a forced draw since it says must?
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Kevinthedude on May 12, 2018, 12:16:09 PM: Quote from: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 12:07:59 PM
So is Mayhem considered a forced draw since it says must?

Yes.
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 12:16:51 PM: I'm going to have to start running Abom again! :P
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Watchman on May 12, 2018, 12:30:24 PM: If I’m not mistaken I was told before on here (I believe by an elder) that a protected deck protects from forced draws. I’ll have to try and find the thread.
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Kevinthedude on May 12, 2018, 12:32:45 PM: Actually yeah, according to the REG the default target for a draw ability is the top of the deck. If a deck is protected that should include forced draws.
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: The Guardian on May 12, 2018, 12:45:59 PM: Quote from: Kevinthedude on May 12, 2018, 12:32:45 PM
Actually yeah, according to the REG the default target for a draw ability is the top of the deck. If a deck is protected that should include forced draws.

That is correct. This is why Jerusalem Tower is unplayable :P
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Watchman on May 12, 2018, 05:16:39 PM: Wouldn’t it also apply to non-mandatory draws, such as Generous Giving (Interrupt the battle. Each player may draw 3 cards...)?
Title: Re: Crowds Lost Soul
Post by: Kevinthedude on May 12, 2018, 05:36:31 PM: Quote from: Watchman492 on May 12, 2018, 05:16:39 PM
Wouldn’t it also apply to non-mandatory draws, such as Generous Giving (Interrupt the battle. Each player may draw 3 cards...)?

As I understand it yes.