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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Jeremystair on July 26, 2018, 08:35:45 AM
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I'm curious what begins a rescue attempt mean?
If I banned a cloud hero or a 1st Samuel hero into battle are they beginning a rescue attempt and then can i activate Samuels ability to discard a curse or an evil enhancement?
Or does it mean the first hero who attempts to rescue a lost soul has to be a 1st Samuel or Cloud hero?
CoW Samuel
I Samuel Heroes have Site access. Protect I Samuel Heroes from capture. If a I Samuel or [cloud] Hero begins a rescue attempt, you may discard a Curse or an evil Enhancement. Cannot be negated.
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if your asking if you can use Angel with a Secret Name, Angel of the Winds or Angel Under the Oak to swap to Samuel (CoW) and still get to pop and EE or Curse the answer is yes you can. Banding in an additional hero will not result in paying the cost so you will not get to retrigger the benefit.
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So why is that? Seems kind of strange that you can exchange but if you banned one in they're not considered beginning a rescue attempt?
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I don't remember the exact reasons off hand, I'll have to go digging. The precedent was set with AUtO to Sam with Hidden Treasures and Rachel to Joseph with Hidden Treasures.
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It makes sense that all characters that are in battle when the special ability is complete they have began the rescue attempt. AUtO to Sam/Rachel to Joseph after AUtO's ability Sam is the one left in battle and after Rachel's done Joseph is left in the battle but if a character bands in another character they're both left in battle. Two characters should be able to begin a rescue attempt together.
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I misunderstood your premise. I assumed you meant something like Samuel goes in Alone and triggers himself. Then you play faith of Samuel on him to band in more 1 Samuel heroes to trigger his ability again.
Your asking something along the lines of if King Saul Bands to Abigail who Bands to David the shepherd would it trigger Samuel (CoW) 3 times? Is that what you are intending?
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From the reg:
Begins a Battle
A character begins a battle if:
• After all abilities (except abilities that add a character to the opponent's side of battle and side battle abilities) have activated and no effects are resolving they are in battle and controlled by the active player or there are no characters in battle controlled by the active player and they were the last character controlled by the active player to be removed from battle AND
• No characters were in the Field of Battle prior to the first character entering battle AND
• The battle has not already had a character or group of characters begin the battle
Multiple characters can begin a battle, but a battle can only begin once. No characters begin a battle in a side battle.
So to answer your question, yes multiple characters can start a battle together, but it only checks once, after all abilities have completed.
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+1
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I misunderstood your premise. I assumed you meant something like Samuel goes in Alone and triggers himself. Then you play faith of Samuel on him to band in more 1 Samuel heroes to trigger his ability again.
Your asking something along the lines of if King Saul Bands to Abigail who Bands to David the shepherd would it trigger Samuel (CoW) 3 times? Is that what you are intending?
Pretty much yes that's what I was getting at. So it does work thanks
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I'm pretty sure if the 3 giant band only triggers Hebron once, you can only trigger the "begins a battle" cards once.
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Ok that's still good.