Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Minion of Jesus on August 10, 2014, 11:50:18 AM

Title: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Minion of Jesus on August 10, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
Is Spirit of Temptation a female demon? I always assumed he was male, but I heard conflicting stuff about it.

What happens if the two-liner Lost Souls is rescued by two people, and the person who rescued it first has GoYS and the person who rescued it second (aka the one who actually has the card in their land of Redemption) does NOT have GoYS, can the Lost Souls card be Fallen Away because one of the people has GoYS?
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Daniel on August 10, 2014, 12:08:14 PM
That's a male satyr if I ever saw one :P

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20100523023623%2Fredemption%2Fimages%2F2%2F22%2FSpirit_of_Temptation_-_Thesaurus.jpg&hash=5f6d1eaaf4c2e9b0699deea495c98471930fb3c3)
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: YourMathTeacher on August 10, 2014, 01:25:47 PM
What exactly is "tempting" about that picture anyway?  ::)
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Minion of Jesus on August 10, 2014, 02:54:50 PM
What exactly is "tempting" about that picture anyway?  ::)

Well, that is a pretty seductive look he/she's giving...
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: TheJaylor on August 10, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
Spirit of Temptation is male as far as I know and I believe Guardian protects both halves if at last one of the people have it.
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: The Guardian on August 10, 2014, 05:13:55 PM
Spirit of Temptation is male as far as I know and I believe Guardian protects both halves if at last one of the people have it.

Spirit of Doubt is a female demon IIRC, but Spirit of Temptation is male.

If Lost Souls is split between two players it is considered to be in both Lands of Redemption. Therefore if one player has GoYS, both halves are protected. It does not matter who rescued it first or which player has GoYS.
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Chris on August 10, 2014, 11:30:15 PM
Justin is right about 2 Liner. If one half is protected by GOYS, neither half can be hit by Falling Away.

The look the demon on that card is giving is awfully tempting to me, and I'm straight. Therefore, I'm forced to conclude the demon is female.
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: TheJaylor on August 10, 2014, 11:52:17 PM
Well, according to both RedemptionLive! and the wiki Spirit of Temptation is indeed female although the REG says a demon's gender is determined by the look of it on the card if it's not mentioned in the reference. To me, SoT looks male no matter how tempting of a look it's giving. With the horns, beard, and other things I'm not convinced. Plus, you're supposed to be tempted by other things because of the spirit, not tempted by the look of the spirit itself.
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: The Guardian on August 10, 2014, 11:55:33 PM
Quote from: REG
Non-Human Characters
These characters are also treated as having a gender. This is determined using the following:
 Card Title/Verse text: If the title or verse refers to a character with words such as ‘he’ or ‘his’
or ‘Prince,’ etc., then the character is to be treated as male.
 Card Art: If the character appears to be male, it is treated as male. If the character appears
to be female, it is treated as female.
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Praeceps on August 13, 2014, 10:04:53 PM
Does that mean that Arianna and Kira are female angels now, or are they still bound by the "all angels are male" rule?
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Drrek on August 13, 2014, 10:09:50 PM
Does that mean that Arianna and Kira are female angels now, or are they still bound by the "all angels are male" rule?

Uh they've always been female, there is no "all angels are male rule"
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: browarod on August 14, 2014, 12:17:02 PM
As far as I'm aware, the only female demons are Cubus and Spirit of Fear, because it depicts Cubus (which, like the only female angels, are from Angel Wars).
Title: Re: Couple of Questions Brought Up at Nats
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 15, 2014, 05:04:11 PM
Well, according to both RedemptionLive! and the wiki Spirit of Temptation is indeed female although the REG says a demon's gender is determined by the look of it on the card if it's not mentioned in the reference. To me, SoT looks male no matter how tempting of a look it's giving. With the horns, beard, and other things I'm not convinced. Plus, you're supposed to be tempted by other things because of the spirit, not tempted by the look of the spirit itself.

I checked the wiki page, that was a leftover from when MJWolfe mass formatted pages early in the wiki process. He used the RedemptionLive database to do this.

I will remove the label, because I seriously doubt that is a female.
SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal