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Title: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: SignoftheStar on October 21, 2014, 09:37:10 PM
I seem to remember that Demons are discarded if they are ever being converted to a Hero because Demons cannot be Heroes. Is this correct?

Also, here is a related curiosity question: As alignment-sensitive identifiers vanish if a Character with that identifier is converted to a different alignment, does an Angel become a Demon if it is converted to an Evil Character, or does it just become a non-Human non-Demon Evil Character like Doubt? My inclination is towards the latter.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: ChristianSoldier on October 21, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
Demon's aren't discarded if they are converted, they just simply can't be converted (convert abilities don't do anything to them).

If an Angel is converted it does not become a demon.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: SignoftheStar on October 21, 2014, 10:12:33 PM
So convert abilities, by game rule, simply cannot target demons?
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: TheJaylor on October 21, 2014, 10:15:18 PM
So convert abilities, by game rule, simply cannot target demons?
Correct.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: Praeceps on October 21, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
Is there a card that allows targeting of a non-human evil character? I thought they all specified human...
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: TheJaylor on October 21, 2014, 11:45:42 PM
Is there a card that allows targeting of a non-human evil character? I thought they all specified human...
The new Blinding Light from Early Church just says "N.T. Evil Character" and I think there are a few other but I'm not sure of any off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: Redoubter on October 22, 2014, 07:23:50 AM
Demon's aren't discarded if they are converted, they just simply can't be converted (convert abilities don't do anything to them).

If an Angel is converted it does not become a demon.

I'm fairly certain they actually do count as a demon, as Angel is a hero-only identifier.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: browarod on October 22, 2014, 09:44:23 AM
Agree with Redoubter, Angels become demons when converted to evil alignment (which, then, restricts them from being converted so they can't be converted back, lol).
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: SignoftheStar on October 22, 2014, 10:51:07 AM
Well, what do you know? So they actually do become demons.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: EmJayBee83 on October 22, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
Type-2 Players, do you have a The Angel Under the Oak infestation? Try Cactus's new and improved Angelic Rebellion!
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: LukeChips on October 22, 2014, 12:43:59 PM
Type-2 Players, do you have a The Angel Under the Oak infestation? Try Cactus's new and improved Angelic Rebellion!
How new is it?
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: Minion of Jesus on October 22, 2014, 01:42:30 PM
Type-2 Players, do you have a The Angel Under the Oak infestation? Try Cactus's new and improved Angelic Rebellion!
How new is it?

From Apostles.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: LukeChips on October 22, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
That's not that new...
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: JSB23 on October 22, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
That's not that new...

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF636xiP.gif&hash=3f36babbc8f5f819d8e0254d940860ce0a925f28)
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: LukeChips on October 22, 2014, 03:24:40 PM
Oh, now I get it, I'm pretty dumb sometimes. :P
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: EmJayBee83 on October 22, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
Sorry.  This is just another example of Old-Timers nostalgia.  Back when I had a specially tuned crimson anti-angel deck to combat one of The Guardians' decks built upon the rock that was Witness(es) to Creation...
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: Kor on October 22, 2014, 09:01:30 PM
Hope that deck had a few Leviathans.  Would have got around witness to creation and three nails.
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: LukeChips on October 23, 2014, 02:23:35 PM
Leviathans are pretty lame to me...
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: browarod on October 23, 2014, 02:41:01 PM
I know it isn't the point of the graphic, but it does make a rather pretty flower. ::)
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: Redoubter on October 23, 2014, 02:47:25 PM
Leviathans are pretty lame to me...

Lame, except you cannot target them as humans OR as demons OR as beasts.  There are fewer things that can kill them.

I know it isn't the point of the graphic, but it does make a rather pretty flower. ::)

I'll admit, the end of that gif was EXTREMELY satisfying...
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: LukeChips on October 23, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
Leviathans are pretty lame to me...

Lame, except you cannot target them as humans OR as demons OR as beasts.  There are fewer things that can kill them.
Then are they animals?
Title: Re: Converting Non-Human Characters
Post by: Praeceps on October 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
Leviathans are pretty lame to me...

Lame, except you cannot target them as humans OR as demons OR as beasts.  There are fewer things that can kill them.
Then are they animals?

Yes, one of two. The other is the Serpent.
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