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Elijah's Mantle
« on: May 30, 2011, 11:03:17 PM »
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Elijah's Mantle.

Is the increase permanent?

Elijah's Mantle (Wa)
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: All of Holder's Hero gain 2/2 while this card is in play. • Identifiers: None • Verse: I Kings 19:19 • Availability: Warriors booster packs (Uncommon)



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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 11:13:56 PM »
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No, it specifically clauses it that the 2/2 only occurs "while this card is in play".
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 08:08:50 AM »
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Outdated wording. if that card was printed today it wouldn't have that clause. And then what about covanant of salt? It doesn't have said clause.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 08:25:40 AM »
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Covenant of Salt (Pa)
Type: Covenant • Brigade: White • Ability: 5 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Use as an enhancement or an Artifact. All O.T. Heroes in play gain 2/2. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Numbers 18:19 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Common)

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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 08:51:15 PM »
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Mantle does not, Salt does.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 09:15:44 PM »
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Every time it activates?
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 09:38:48 PM »
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Yes.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 09:49:30 PM »
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mantle is no longer worth playing in FBTN....
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 09:51:08 PM »
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It never was worth playing in FBTN...
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 09:57:11 PM »
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 So every time you active cov of salt all OT heros get a permanent 2/2?
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 09:58:40 PM »
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Yes.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 10:30:59 PM »
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Quote from: Red on June 02, 2011, 09:58:40 PM
Yes.

Disagree. There was a distinction made awhile back that specified that ongoing ability increase/decrease cards (artifacts, fortresses, placed enhancements) were not permanent (the card in question was Plagued with Diseases, which would be OP'd if ruled the other way) but that cards that are only active in battle (enhancements, characters, etc.) made their increase/decreases permanent unless otherwise specified.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 10:41:36 PM »
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The why does EM have the while in play distinction?
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 10:55:26 PM »
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I have never heard of that ruling, but if it is in place then Salt only gives a permanent increase if played in battle.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2011, 11:32:26 AM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on June 02, 2011, 10:55:26 PM
I have never heard of that ruling, but if it is in place then Salt only gives a permanent increase if played in battle.

There was a discussion on it awhile back. I'll see if I can find it.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2011, 11:17:56 PM »
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It was a discussion on the elder boards about a potential change via the new REG. It's not official and not even certain to change.
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Re: Elijah's Mantle
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2011, 12:43:32 AM »
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should this go on the unresolved rulings thread? 

What exactly is the current ruling on what numbers are permanent increases and which ones are temporary?  Like the angel that adds (strengthening angel?). 
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