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Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« on: August 15, 2011, 12:05:26 AM »
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Not in battle is defined as cards face up on the table that are not in battle (this includes territory, set-aside area and Land of Redemption).  It does not include hand, draw pile, discard pile, and cards face down in play. This changes the previous ruling that Lampstand of the Sanctuary stops Mayhem.

We found that there are a hand full of card in Redemption that have the phrase "not in battle" on them (Wall of Water, Royal Protection, Abishai's Spear, Angry Mob and Lampstand of the Sanctuary). The ruling that Lampstand of the Sanctuary protects a players hand from Mayhem was found to be inconsistent with other cards which used the same language.

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« Last Edit: August 15, 2011, 12:07:48 AM by Gabe »
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 01:17:02 AM »
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So will Lampstand still protect the land of redemption or not?  Just a little confused.....
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 01:18:28 AM »
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Yes it does.
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 01:19:51 AM »
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I hope to see abilities that affect face-up cards in the future.
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 01:20:52 AM »
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OK because the answer I got this weekend is that it would not....
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 01:22:11 AM »
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Lampy will protect the LoR, given that it's face up on the table.  From my perspective, it looks like Great Image can hit set aside heroes as well.

Can I play with my hand face up on the table to protect it from Mayhem?
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 01:23:44 AM »
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Discard all opponents' Heroes in play that are not in the field of battle at the end of this battle.

Good thought, but no dice.
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 01:26:10 AM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on August 15, 2011, 01:22:11 AM
Can I play with my hand face up on the table to protect it from Mayhem?

ummm...  Yes..... that looks like it would work there is no game rule against have your hand face up....... at lest I don't think there is........
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 01:30:29 AM »
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There is.
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 01:31:11 AM »
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Thank you so much for this ruling. Angry Mob was broken.
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 10:18:22 AM »
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I thought Mayhem was broken before... why did you take away the only protection from it, yet still keep the double protection against FA, with Guardian and Lampy?
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 10:38:57 AM »
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Quote from: Thomas Hunter on August 15, 2011, 10:18:22 AM
I thought Mayhem was broken before... why did you take away the only protection from it, yet still keep the double protection against FA, with Guardian and Lampy?
Mayhem isn't broken--first turn Mayhem is broken, but Lampstand couldn't protect from that anyway.
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Re: Consistency Given to "Not In Battle"
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 11:27:27 AM »
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Mayhem (TP)
Type: Grim Reaper • Brigade: • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Each player must shuffle hand into deck to draw six. • Play As: Each player must shuffle [return] hand into deck to draw six. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Isaiah 59:7 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

Lampstand of the Sanctuary (Pi)
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect all cards not in battle from evil Dominants (grim-reaper icon cards). • Identifiers: OT, Tabernacle Item, Temple Item • Verse: Exodus 25:31 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Ultra Rare)

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