Author Topic: Cannot be negated? (Read 4042 times)

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:42:01 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 25, 2011, 12:20:16 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 24, 2011, 07:15:34 PM
Placed cards become CBN the phase after they are placed.
So is this correct or not? (even if it's not played with a CBN character).

The placement becomes CBN but the actual ability can be negated.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:45:07 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 25, 2011, 12:20:16 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 24, 2011, 07:15:34 PM
Placed cards become CBN the phase after they are placed.
So is this correct or not? (even if it's not played with a CBN character).

The "placed" part is CBN; the rest of the enhancement's ability is generally not, unless it was CBN when it was placed (as in the Thomas scenario).

The Guardian · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:47:23 PM »

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I would suggest that two Elders (primary and backup) are assigned to be minute-takers, who are in charge of recording and documenting discussions on the Elder-side of the boards. Hopefully, this will prevent the loss of important discussions and/or decisions.

A good suggestion STAMP, and RDT is correct--lost just means that the discussion was never completed (usually because another issue came up) and ended up getting buried.

STAMP · « **Reply #28 on:** January 25, 2011, 01:16:00 PM »

Part of the minute-taking would be to maintain a status of each discussion/thread/decision/etc. Things like:

initiated
currently discussed
assigned (to some other elder)
pending
completed, awaiting documenting in (REG/corrections thread/etc.)
completed
etc.

Perri · « **Reply #29 on:** January 25, 2011, 01:33:42 PM »

So as far as things go right now, I can give moses a CBN protected from discard abilities, yes?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #30 on:** January 25, 2011, 01:35:48 PM »

Quote from: Perri on January 25, 2011, 01:33:42 PM

So as far as things go right now, I can give moses a CBN protected from discard abilities, yes?

Yes.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 25, 2011, 11:17:26 PM »

lol alot of good it will do you vs herods though with cbp captures mwahaha

Perri · « **Reply #32 on:** January 25, 2011, 11:49:53 PM »

Clearly you haven't seen a Gold/Silver/Green Moses get CBN protect from capture, convert, removal, and discard, have you?

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 25, 2011, 11:57:46 PM »

lol oh dude now your playing with fire lol i don't know you so ill play nice but perhaps we need to play t1 some time

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #34 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:04:49 AM »

Quote from: Perri on January 25, 2011, 11:49:53 PM

Clearly you haven't seen a Gold/Silver/Green Moses get CBN protect from capture, convert, removal, and discard, have you?

Sounds great, but it will lead to a ruling that only one placed enhancement may be played on a character at any given time, if it hasn't already occurred. (But I like your style)

-C_S

Perri · « **Reply #35 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:31:14 AM »

The color additions and the capture convert removal are set asides, and I would be totally okay with only one placed enhancement allowed to be on a character at a time, that seems reasonable.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #36 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:32:43 AM »

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on January 26, 2011, 12:04:49 AM

Quote from: Perri on January 25, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
Clearly you haven't seen a Gold/Silver/Green Moses get CBN protect from capture, convert, removal, and discard, have you?

Sounds great, but it will lead to a ruling that only one placed enhancement may be played on a character at any given time, if it hasn't already occurred. (But I like your style)

-C_S

He only needs one enhancement placed on Moses.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #37 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:40:03 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 26, 2011, 12:32:43 AM

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on January 26, 2011, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: Perri on January 25, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
Clearly you haven't seen a Gold/Silver/Green Moses get CBN protect from capture, convert, removal, and discard, have you?

Sounds great, but it will lead to a ruling that only one placed enhancement may be played on a character at any given time, if it hasn't already occurred. (But I like your style)

-C_S

He only needs one enhancement placed on Moses.

I see! Very tricky indeed!

-C_S

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #38 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:46:01 AM »

what? no protect from shuffle?

Perri · « **Reply #39 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:48:08 AM »

Sadly no. But I feel like a Moses that can only be stopped by numbers (good luck) and Grapes is pretty good. Unless you have any ideas.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #40 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:50:40 AM »

Getting stopped by higher numbers isn't a very unlikely proposition. Though if a deck lets you get Moses set up through 8 turns of set-aside, it deserves to lose.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:58:53 AM »

yeah right

Perri · « **Reply #42 on:** January 26, 2011, 01:44:54 AM »

n all honesty, 8 turns isn't that long.. even then, the silver/green addition isn't really necessary, but is nice if there's a few turns where no souls are drawn, he really only needs three turns,.. Also, numbers are easy to take care of, Covenant of Moses is a 7/3 (I think) name on name bonus. Ehud's dagger is a CBN negate that can deal with any CBP.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 26, 2011, 01:50:07 AM »

heh now you gone and done it we gotta schedule a game lol pm me when your available and gimmie your hamachi info

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #44 on:** January 26, 2011, 01:59:44 AM »

Quote from: Perri on January 26, 2011, 01:44:54 AM

Also, numbers are easy to take care of, Covenant of Moses is a 7/3 (I think) name on name bonus. Ehud's dagger is a CBN negate that can deal with any CBP.

Your definition of "easy" is suspect. After Covenant with Moses (admittedly awesome), you're walled by every CBP band.

Perri · « **Reply #45 on:** January 26, 2011, 03:02:18 AM »

How do you figure? I honestly can't think of that many CBP bands that are that hard to deal with if all your playing is number, and CBP's can be dealt with especially if Moses Rod is up, plague of flies nukes a banding chain and is recurrable with Agur, plague of hail gives a second CBN negate that will deal with CBP enhancements. Plus, if it's something moses can't handle, that's what artifacts are for.

The Guardian · « **Reply #46 on:** January 26, 2011, 04:49:43 AM »

Super-Moses...I like it.

I would use a defense that has the ability to discard a dominant from opponent's deck (i.e. Confusion) to get rid of Grapes. (Or if you don't get Grapes, maybe you get SoG which is obviously another huge advantage.) Judas' Plot could be the most helpful.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #47 on:** January 26, 2011, 09:07:47 AM »

Seems fitting for Moses to be so powerful. Still, you need something against Darius' Decree.

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #48 on:** January 26, 2011, 09:40:29 AM »

Believe me when I say that the Super Moses is real. I have seen him in blurry pictures. Be afraid...be very afraid!

Perri · « **Reply #49 on:** January 26, 2011, 11:34:59 AM »

Kerith Ravine protects from DD, and confusion is something I've thought about. Was thinking of remaking the deck and adding some priest-ness into it for urim and thummim just to hand check, but I haven't really worked out the details yet. I appreciate the suggestions, I totally forgot about Judas' plot.

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Author Topic: Cannot be negated? (Read 4042 times)

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