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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: YourMathTeacher on June 27, 2013, 07:11:07 AM
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If a card says increase (or decrease) a character's abilities by 50%, and does not mention rounding, do you keep the decimals for odd numbered-abilities? For instance, if I use it on a 7/5 character, do they become 10.5/7.5?
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Yep!
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Weird, I always thought that you just round naturally.
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I asked this a number of years ago, and I'm assuming the answer has not changed.
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I first found this ruling in David Easterling's player guide, which I believe was from right after Prophets. So, 1997?
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I first found this ruling in David Easterling's player guide, which I believe was from right after Prophets. So, 1997?
Ironically, I have that guide. Is it really in there? :o
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Page 80
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LOL. I tried to find the guide, but I haven't needed it since 1997 so I don't know where I put it. That would have been great to have, though, since my son was the one that asked, and he was mad that I ruled the decimals counting (it cost him a lost soul).
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Redemption has decimals? What about for cards like The Testimony? Can I choose e and 7-e?
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Redemption has decimals? What about for cards like The Testimony? Can I choose e and 7-e?
Let's be rational, please.
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Here's the part of the page on "Amplify." I think reproducing this small sample is OK under copyright laws, but if it isn't I'll remove it.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1045190_4935771832730_266700841_n.jpg)
ADDED: Sorry it's so big-I didn't realize the image was that large.
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I asked this a number of years ago, and I'm assuming the answer has not changed.
Just for proof, here is from the Increase/Discard section in the new REG, and this component was in the old REG as well:
If a card's abilities are increase or decrease by half this can result in decimal or fractional strength and toughness. Do not round such results; use the fractional or decimal numbers as calculated.
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Here's the part of the page on "Amplify." I think reproducing this small sample is OK under copyright laws, but if it isn't I'll remove it.
From my limited understanding of copyright, if this is one page, and it has a total of at least 80 pages, then that would put this at 1.25%, which is well below the 10% or 15% that is allowed in fair use (if especially since you are citing it as taken from another source and crediting the actual creator at least in a roundabout way).
To the actual ruling. This always seemed like a funny ruling, it only, from my memory, affects this one card and due to the wording can never make a fraction with a denominator other than 1 or 2 (denominator of 1 means it is an integer and a denominator of 2 means a half integer like 1/2, 3/2, 5/2 and so on, for those who aren't well versed in math terms). Since rarely will the half actually matter, if you are 5.5/8.5 you will still win against a 8/5 and lose to a 9/6 just like if you had been 5/8, so you would need another ability that interacts with the extra 1/2 to make it matter. But there is nothing weird, inconsistent or difficult about the ruling as it is.
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Since rarely will the half actually matter, if you are 5.5/8.5 you will still win against a 8/5 and lose to a 9/6 just like if you had been 5/8, so you would need another ability that interacts with the extra 1/2 to make it matter.
That's actually not entirely true. 5/8 Hero versus 8/5 EC is mutual destruction whereas 5.5/8.5 Hero versus 8/5 EC is not (the Hero is winning) and a 9/6 EC would be winning outright as well. It affects initiative as well as battle outcome.
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That's actually not entirely true. 5/8 Hero versus 8/5 EC is mutual destruction whereas 5.5/8.5 Hero versus 8/5 EC is not (the Hero is winning) and a 9/6 EC would be winning outright as well. It affects initiative as well as battle outcome.
Especially since my son's EC had First Strike, so he thought he had his opponent beat. :o