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New REG clarification: redefine parameters for RA and BC
« on: March 25, 2010, 11:36:43 AM »
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Please include a clear definiton of all parameters of rescue attempts and battle challenges.  This includes starting/beginning, success/fail, instant/ongoing, during, following, etc.  This will clear up some gray areas on certain triggers on some cards.  Here are some examples:

Graven
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 6 / 8 • Class: None • Special Ability: If Household Idols or Asherah Pole is active and rescue attempt fails, holder may discard a site. • Identifiers: NT Male Human • Verse: Acts 17:29 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Rare)

May I discard a site mid-battle when an RA turns into a BC?  May I discard two sites if a battle goes from RA to BC to RA to BC?

Lost soul James 1:15 (‘Demon’)
Type: Lost Soul • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: If a lone Hero begins a rescue attempt against you, you may discard one of your demons in your territory to shuffle this card back into owner's draw pile. • Identifiers: None • Verse: James 1:15 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Rare)

Can a rescue attempt begin mid-battle, i.e. goes from BC to RA?  If a battle starts off as a BC with two heroes, one hero leaves battle, access is gained changing to RA, may I discard a demon at that point?

Panic Demon (Gold)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: If rescue attempt fails, discard the top card of opponent's draw pile. May band to Panic Demon. • Identifiers: Generic NT Male Demon • Verse: Luke 21:26 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Common)

May I discard the top card mid-battle?  (Panic Demons from other brigades also exhibit this wording.)

The Darkness
Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place an Evil Character from hand face down here. If an opponent begins a rescue attempt and chooses a blocker (or is unblocked), you may reveal this evil character. Blocking player may add it to the battle. Otherwise return it face down. • Identifiers: Holds one Evil Character • Verse: John 3:19 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Ultra Rare)

Let's say I begin a BC and choose the blocker.  Later in battle I add an access site to gain access to a LS and change to an RA.  Does my opponent get to use the EC in The Darkness?

Burial Shroud
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Holder may not make a rescue attempt or be attacked. May be used twice. • Play As: Prevent holder from making a rescue attempt. Protect holder from being attacked. May be used twice. • Identifiers: None • Verse: John 20:4-5 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)

Does the prevent part of Burial Shroud prevent any special ability mid-battle that may cause the BC to change to an RA?

Divisions in the Church
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Grey • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: N.T. Heroes may not enter battle this turn. Any currently in battle must retreat. An O.T. Hero must be placed in battle or rescue attempt fails. • Identifiers: None • Verse: I Corinthians 1:10 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Uncommon)

If I start an RA with Agabus, cause a side battle, and DitC is played in the side battle, does my RA fail?

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Re: New REG clarification: redefine parameters for RA and BC
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 11:38:29 AM »
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Lystra
Type: Site • Brigade: Red • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: While blocking a rescue attempt at this site, Angry Mob gains 3/3 and cannot be converted. • Identifiers: Greece • Verse: Acts 14:29 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Uncommon)

Does my Angry Mob gain 6/6 if battle goes RA to BC to RA?

Timothy
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: White • Ability: 4 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: If two or more Heroes are in holder's territory with 7 or greater offense, Timothy may not start the rescue attempt. After Timothy has won one battle, he increases 3/3 and may start rescue attempts. • Identifiers: NT Male Human • Verse: I Corinthians 4:17 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Common)

If I start a BC with Timothy, can I change it to an RA mid-battle even if I have two heroes > 7 offense in territory?

Chariot of Fire
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Following your rescue attempt, return all Heroes in your discard pile to your draw pile. Shuffle draw pile. • Identifiers: None • Verse: II Kings 2:11 • Availability: Warriors booster packs (Uncommon) and Promotional cards (2005 Tournament Winner)

May I shuffle my discarded heroes mid-battle if an RA changes to a BC?

David’s Harp
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Following a rescue attempt holder may select one Hero that is about to be discarded and place Hero on top of owner's draw pile. • Play As: Following any rescue attempt holder may select one of holder’s Heroes that was or is about to be discarded from battle and place Hero on top of owner's deck. • Identifiers: None • Verse: I Samuel 16:23 • Availability: Warriors booster packs (Uncommon)

May I place a discarded hero on top of draw pile mid-battle if an RA changes to a BC?

Provisions
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Green • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set Hero aside for 2 turns. On return, holder may draw 2 cards and may choose the Evil Character his opponent's uses to block Hero's next rescue attempt. • Errata: Set Hero aside for 2 turns. On return, holder may draw 2 cards, and hero gains the special ability (for hero’s next rescue attempt only) “Holder may choose the Evil Character opponent uses to block.” • Identifiers: OT, Connected with David • Verse: I Samuel 17:20 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Uncommon)

May I make multiple BCs with my Provisioned hero and still retain the gained ability to choose the blocker when that hero finally makes an RA?  May I use the CTB ability mid-battle when a BC changes to an RA?

Love for Rachel
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Green • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: During this and following rescue attempts, Rachel may band with any male Hero. • Play As: If holder has Rachel in play, she gains the ability “If making a rescue attempt, Rachel may band with any male Hero. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Genesis 29:20 • Availability: Women booster packs (Uncommon)

May I band in a second male hero later in battle if it changes from RA to BC to RA?


There are more than 40 other cards that I could list, but I think I made my point.
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Re: New REG clarification: redefine parameters for RA and BC
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 11:45:31 AM »
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you definitely make an interesting point.   Time sit back and watch a 10 page discussion over this....... Goes and gets a recliner and soda...... Already :)

crazy is correct,  some similar discusion if you search everyman's sword. 
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 04:11:07 PM by redemption101 »

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Re: New REG clarification: redefine parameters for RA and BC
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 01:07:07 PM »
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I'm 100% sure the seeker ruling you have is wrong.
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