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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: pilgrim14 on May 26, 2013, 08:18:49 PM

Title: Admiral
Post by: pilgrim14 on May 26, 2013, 08:18:49 PM: Is admiral a panic demon?
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: Redoubter on May 26, 2013, 08:34:42 PM: No. Panic Demons are named Panic Demon.
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: pilgrim14 on May 26, 2013, 08:52:59 PM: I was just wondering because he bears quite the resemblance to them. Also, are panic demons generic?
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 26, 2013, 09:07:57 PM: yes, they are.
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: Korunks on May 28, 2013, 10:24:47 AM: Another question is admiral generic?
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: Professoralstad on May 28, 2013, 10:39:53 AM: Quote from: Korunks on May 28, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
Another question is admiral generic?

I don't believe so, as he's not listed in the REG, but I'm not very well versed on the Angel Wars series. Is it a character named Admiral, or just a demon who is an Admiral?
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 28, 2013, 10:44:17 AM: Quote from: Professoralstad on May 28, 2013, 10:39:53 AM
Quote from: Korunks on May 28, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
Another question is admiral generic?

I don't believe so, as he's not listed in the REG, but I'm not very well versed on the Angel Wars series. Is it a character named Admiral, or just a demon who is an Admiral?

Admiral was a specific character in the movie. It is not clear whether his name was a title, or just his name.
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: Korunks on May 28, 2013, 10:48:54 AM: I guess the question the question what is the definition/requirement for a unique character in redemption?
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 28, 2013, 11:37:58 AM: The precedent was that if the card referred to a specific person, then it was unique. Widow has long been ruled as unique, even though that was obviously not her name (likewise with Huge Egyptian). Since Admiral refers to a specific character in the Angel Wars movie, he has always been ruled as unique.
Title: Re: Admiral
Post by: Professoralstad on May 28, 2013, 12:38:27 PM: Quote from: YourMathTeacher on May 28, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
The precedent was that if the card referred to a specific person, then it was unique. Widow has long been ruled as unique, even though that was obviously not her name (likewise with Huge Egyptian). Since Admiral refers to a specific character in the Angel Wars movie, he has always been ruled as unique.

There has been a fairly prolonged discussion on the playtester's side of the boards to come up with a good system for determining uniqueness. Trust me when I say it is harder than it may seem. Currently the best way to determine uniqueness is to consult the REG lists.

What YMT said is mostly correct, though there are some instances where a specific person mentioned in a verse (such as the Syrian Archer who shot Ahab, or the guy who broke the Sabbath) are given the generic label. The REG lists are updated with the most recent rulings on who is generic and who is unique.