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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: YourMathTeacher on March 04, 2010, 09:47:33 PM
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I have never had to rule on Abom before and I'm sure there is a quick answer to this:
If I place Abom in my opponent's territory, then later attack with Hur, do I discard just one card from territory, or one for each card drawn? I assumed that the the words "Draws cards" would be a singular event, so I only get to discard one.
Abomination of Desolation
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: If used by a Greek, place in opponent's territory. Each time opponent draws cards (except during draw phase), you may discard a card in that territory except a Lost Soul.
Hur
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Green • Ability: 4 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Selected opponent must shuffle all but one card from hand back into draw pile and draw seven new cards. Cannot be interrupted, negated, or prevented.
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One card.
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Thanks. That's what I thought, but I have questioned everything I believe about Redemption these past couple of weeks. ;)
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One card.
Thank you for clearing that up. Thanks again Tim for finding out.
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Yes, it is one card per ability. Out of curiosity, what about Heavy Taxes when used by an emperor? Draw & Discard seems to be one ability and the card says to do "this" twice.
Heavy Taxes
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Grey • Ability: 0 / X • Class: None • Special Ability: Opponent must discard a card from hand and you may draw a card. If used by an emperor, do this twice and end the battle. • Identifiers: NT, Depicts a Weapon, X = number of cards in your hand • Verse: Romans 13:7 • Availability: Faith of Fathers (Set 10)
See also:
Draw or Take into Hand
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Well, assuming your opp uses that with abom on the table I would say twice. Since the ability specifies twice but I could be wrong.
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Well, assuming your opp uses that with abom on the table I would say twice. Since the ability specifies twice but I could be wrong.
+1. Each time you draw is a separate ability: you draw, then you check to see if an emperor used it. Then you draw again. That's how I would rule it.
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Wouldn't the second sentence have to say "again," rather than "twice." I think that the first and second sentences would have to be a single event, otherwise I should be able to do it twice more if I use it on an Emperor.
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I think in order to work as you would suppose, it would have to say: "Opponent must discard a card from hand and you may draw a card. If used by an Emperor, draw 2 and opponent must discard 2 cards from hand instead."
The fact that it says twice makes me think that it means do it once, then do it again. I can definitely see how your have no idea how you could come up with your interpretation. There is literally no way it could might be correct. You're so ignorant.
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But I can definitely see how your interpretation might be correct.
Well that can't be right. ;)
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Fixed.
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That's better, although it would have had more oomph if you had called me a fool.
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Well, assuming your opp uses that with abom on the table I would say twice. Since the ability specifies twice but I could be wrong.
+1. Each time you draw is a separate ability: you draw, then you check to see if an emperor used it. Then you draw again. That's how I would rule it.
I agree with your explanation. Doing "this" (draw) twice means you draw twice, not draw 2.
Draw 2 cards <> Draw twice
Hur draws 7 and does not draws 7 times. Heavy Taxes (in the presence of an Emperor) draws two times, not draws 2. Right?
Mike
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Draw 2 cards <> Draw a card twice
I'm not clear on the designation you are using, especially since you used red color. Are you saying that "Draw 2 Cards" is kissing "Draw a card twice"?
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Sorry, I'm an engineer/programmer. <> means not equal. There is no character on the keyboard that has = and / on top of each other. <> is how it is used in most programming languages.
So, what is your background, such that <> means kissing? That is not part of my repertoire :D
Mike
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=/= is what some use for not equal.
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Does =/= have any other cute associations?
Mike
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Why are you squinting at me?
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Can we turn that into one of those cute smileys?
Mike
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We already have a kissing smiley. Some board members use it way too often. ;)
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We already have a kissing smiley. Some board members use it way too often. ;)
Maybe they just love you that much! ;D
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Maybe they just love you that much! ;D
As long as it is clear that I am a happily married man, I'm OK with that. However, as a High School math teacher with an attitude problem, having people love me too much is not generally a problem. ;)
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However, as a High School math teacher with an attitude problem ...
Is this referring to a problem with your own attitude, or the attitudes of your students? ;)