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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on December 07, 2010, 12:42:39 PM
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When you use his ability:
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Crimson/Black • Ability: 5 / 6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Search opponent's discard pile for a good card and remove it from the game to protect N.T. Lost Souls from rescue (except by a Hero with matching brigade).
can you search for a multi colored and have it count as the brigade that isn't the one in battle?
*And the #'s for this are 11/4 not 5/6
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Yes. Multi's can be targeted for any color they are. (Rainbow is every color, and this includes doms)
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im not so sure cause i was playing alex and he said i couldn't target faithful servnt as green what not to stop a white hero. so id double check this
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Yes, but rainbows are all the colors, therefore as long as I share one, it is ok.
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FSP isn't rainbow, but it is multi. Paul is multi and rainbow.
All rainbow cards are multi, but not all multi's are rainbow.
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Yes, but rainbows are all the colors, therefore as long as I share one, it is ok.
True. Removing a card that shares a brigade with the attacking heroes doesn't affect anything. You can choose to remove it as a green card (in the FSP example) but I can choose it to be a white card if I want. That's how multi cards work.
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My opponet rescues with a silver dude. I block with Philetus, target their Shoes of Peace( :D) in their discard pile as a Red Enhancement and it stops the silver guy from being able to rescue NT lost souls? I would have though since a multi colored card is all brigades, that it would kinda nullify Philetus's ability. So what I choose to target it as is what defines its color?
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My opponet rescues with a silver dude. I block with Philetus, target their Shoes of Peace( :D) in their discard pile as a Red Enhancement and it stops the silver guy from being able to rescue NT lost souls? I would have though since a multi colored card is all brigades, that it would kinda nullify Philetus's ability. So what I chosse to target it as is what defines its color?
Yes.
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where is all this targeting coming from? the only thing phil targets is a card in discard pile and sets up a condition that allows souls to be protected or not. where does he say you get to target a specific color? i agree with alex.
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My opponet rescues with a silver dude. I block with Philetus, target their Shoes of Peace( :D) in their discard pile as a Red Enhancement and it stops the silver guy from being able to rescue NT lost souls? I would have though since a multi colored card is all brigades, that it would kinda nullify Philetus's ability. So what I chosse to target it as is what defines its color?
No. You target it as a multibrigaded enhancement. The ruling can either be that you have to share one of the brigades or all of the brigades. They decided you only have to share one.
Just target a dominant. It has no brigades.
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or good fort.
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+1 w/ Prof A
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My opponet rescues with a silver dude. I block with Philetus, target their Shoes of Peace( :D) in their discard pile as a Red Enhancement and it stops the silver guy from being able to rescue NT lost souls? I would have though since a multi colored card is all brigades, that it would kinda nullify Philetus's ability. So what I chosse to target it as is what defines its color?
No. You target it as a multibrigaded enhancement. The ruling can either be that you have to share one of the brigades or all of the brigades. They decided you only have to share one.
Just target a dominant. It has no brigades.
Ok got it, the way some of the other answers were worded made me not trust my conclusion. Thanks.
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My opponet rescues with a silver dude. I block with Philetus, target their Shoes of Peace( :D) in their discard pile as a Red Enhancement and it stops the silver guy from being able to rescue NT lost souls? I would have though since a multi colored card is all brigades, that it would kinda nullify Philetus's ability. So what I chosse to target it as is what defines its color?
No. You target it as a multibrigaded enhancement. The ruling can either be that you have to share one of the brigades or all of the brigades. They decided you only have to share one.
Just target a dominant. It has no brigades.
If doms have no brigades how are you able to use it as a target if it says "except by hero of a matching brigade" which means that the cards has to have a brigade in the first place.
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Nope. It targets a good card. In this case, the good card is say, Son of God. After that, it looks at the card and determines the brigades that card represents. If you hero matches one of those brigades, you can rescue a soul. If not, you are not able to rescue a soul. Since a Dominant has no brigades, no hero will be able to rescue a soul without negating philetus.
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After that, it looks at the card and determines the brigades that card represents. If you hero matches one of those brigades, you can rescue a soul.
No, according to this post (I think, it's worded weird.):
Yes, but rainbows are all the colors, therefore as long as I share one, it is ok.
True. Removing a card that shares a brigade with the attacking heroes doesn't affect anything. You can choose to remove it as a green card (in the FSP example) but I can choose it to be a white card if I want. That's how multi cards work.
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How does that post apply?
Philetus checks your discard pile and asks the following question:
Is there a good alignment card? Son of God is. Therefore it can be removed.
What brigade is the card removed? Son of God is brigadeless. Therefore only a hero with no brigade may rescue a soul this turn.
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So i can choose a multi but choose the color that isn't one in battle and it would still work? Yes or no? Elder please!! lol
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So i can choose a multi but choose the color that isn't one in battle and it would still work? Yes or no? Elder please!! lol
No. That question was answered previous. Review the short discussion Korunks and I had. You target the whole of the card. The brigade of a multi card is all 8 brigades at once. Therefore, logically, a hero must either share all of the briagdes (Paul) to rescue or just one of the brigades (all heroes). For redemption, it has been ruled that a hero must share one of the brigades in this case, therefore Philetus removing a multicolor card does not affect the rescue attempt other than removing an enhancement.
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So i can choose a multi but choose the color that isn't one in battle and it would still work? Yes or no? Elder please!! lol
again, you do not choose a color, only a good card in the discard pile. choosing a good multi is the LAST thing you want to do, since it will match any hero possible, and philetus will not be able to protect anything.
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Alex and MKC are correct.