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Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« on: December 01, 2009, 10:36:12 PM »
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my opponent makes a rescue attempt with a 5/5 hero. i block with a herod, then opponent plays an enhancement that makes his strength over 7/*. can i now trigger herod's dungeon, or does the 7/* only refer to the heroes own printed strength, and not including the strength combined of good enhancements played on him?

Herod’s Dungeon
Type: Site • Brigade: White • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: While blocking with a Herod while this Site is unoccupied, you may capture a male human Hero with strength 7/* or greater and place it here. When you block with Herodias, you may discard a captured Hero. • Identifiers: Israel • Verse: Matthew 14:3 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()
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Re: Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 11:03:52 PM »
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I'm pretty sure regular enhanvements in battle don't count, but I think WC enhancements do.
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Re: Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 11:07:53 PM »
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odd, i could have sworn the trap of the devil counted up the total strength of heroes with enhancements combined to determine if it works or not. i thought these two were worded rather similiarly.
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Re: Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 11:14:12 PM »
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They are worded thusly:

Trap: "good cards"
Dungeon: "Hero"

As such, there is the framework for distinction between the two, however someone will need to confirm if in fact that distinction exists or not. I can see it going both ways.

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Re: Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 11:32:17 PM »
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Numbers on enhancements (including weapon-class) do not count toward Herod's Dungeon.  Neither have they counted for cards like Widow, Zebulun, etc.

1/1 counters and special abilities that increase the stats of heroes (Elijah's Mantle, Love of Jesus, etc.) DO count toward Herod's Dungeon.

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Re: Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 12:41:40 PM »
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Well, I guess that settles it. :P

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Re: Herod's Dungeon vs Strength
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 12:59:03 PM »
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They are worded thusly:

Trap: "good cards"
Dungeon: "Hero"

As such, there is the framework for distinction between the two, however someone will need to confirm if in fact that distinction exists or not. I can see it going both ways.

Right. TTotD's trigger is when the total strength of good cards (heroes and enhancements) reaches 14+. Herod's Dungeon specifies the Hero needing to have strength 7+, not hero and enhancements.
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