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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Captain Falcon on August 25, 2010, 01:48:40 PM
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1. Can a person have both the Tabernacle and Herod's temple in their territory with a temple artifact in each??
(idk why not, just want to make sure)
2. What is a Herod's Temple artifact? Is it just a temple artiface?
3. If I were to attack with Eleazer, son of Aaron, when a blocker is presented, can I activate a non-temple artifact on my tabernacle? I would think so, as I doubt there's a default to the type of artifact that needs to be placed there.
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i believe it's possible to have more than seven up...
Cross Beams on Simon
MC on a Magician
UW or 30 pieces in High Priests Palace
Book of the Covenant with two covs on in Solomon's Temple
Herod's temple with an art
main art pile
MORE THAN 7
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There's also Priestly Breastplate and Altar of Dagon in Temple of Dagon, to name a couple more. I think people found a way to get 11 at the same time at one point...and that was before Herod's Temple.
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If it's not a rule yet, I think it soon will be that only one temple/tabernacle is allowed in a territory at a time. Redemption allows quite a bit of anachronism, but having Solomon's Temple and Herod's Temple both out just seems silly.
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1. Artifact slot
2. Book of the Covenant on a Temple
3 and 4. Two covenants on Book of the Covenant
5. Unholy Writ or Thirty Pieces on High Priest Palace
6. Crossbeams of the Cross on Simon
7. Magic Charms on a Magician
8. Altar of Dagon on Temple of Dagon
9. Priestly Breastplate on a Priest
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There's also Priestly Breastplate and Altar of Dagon in Temple of Dagon, to name a couple more. I think people found a way to get 11 at the same time at one point...and that was before Herod's Temple.
yeah i heard about that too but i forgot those ones.
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Oh, don't forget Ithamar! ;D
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Righttt.. but i kinda want some answers lol
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If it's not a rule yet, I think it soon will be that only one temple/tabernacle is allowed in a territory at a time. Redemption allows quite a bit of anachronism, but having Solomon's Temple and Herod's Temple both out just seems silly.
You're only talking about Sols Temple, Tabernacle, Z Temple, and Herod's Temple right? Stopping someone from using one of those 4 and Temple of Dagon seems odd, because they aren't even related.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Just the four good tabertemples. And I guess you are allowed to have the Herod's Temple Site out as well, but since Sites are generic and Fortresses are unique, I think the eventual rule will be:
"Only one of Zerubbabel's Temple, Solomon's Temple, The Tabernacle, and Herod's Temple (Fortress) can be in your territory at a time. If you for any reason end up with two of the above in your territory, you must discard one."
This is not yet official however, and I will check on the PT board to see what the other elders think.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Just the four good tabertemples. And I guess you are allowed to have the Herod's Temple Site out as well, but since Sites are generic and Fortresses are unique, I think the eventual rule will be:
"Only one of Zerubbabel's Temple, Solomon's Temple, The Tabernacle, and Herod's Temple (Fortress) can be in your territory at a time. If you for any reason end up with two of the above in your territory, you must discard one."
This is not yet official however, and I will check on the PT board to see what the other elders think.
Good to know about Temple of Dagon.
However, a simple solution that would have solved this would be giving all 4 of these temples an identifier, listing them all as the same unique fortress. The game rule would stop them from being in play at the same time.
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Well, Solomon's Temple came out before identifiers, so that would have been a trick. ;) And the previous two temples SA restrictions, which made it possible to find creative ways to have more than one out, but restricted it for the most part. The uniqueness idea was discussed, but if I remember correctly was not agreed upon officially. I think that it might be more confusing than my proposed rule, but I did bring it up with the Elders. I'll also try to find the discussion that was had during playtesting (the issue was brought up) and see if I can find anything.
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There is precedent for this idea though, see Morgan and Morg.
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The rule in the new REG is that The Tabernacle, Solomon's Temple, Z's Temple, and Herod's Temple are the same unique fortress. They follow the uniqueness rules.
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The rule in the new REG is that The Tabernacle, Solomon's Temple, Z's Temple, and Herod's Temple are the same unique fortress. They follow the uniqueness rules.
O_o i understand one in a territory, but same Fort? epic Phail
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and everyone posting breastplate on a priest? after you activate that, can you activate another one on your art pile?
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Nope, you can't activate another artifact after placing Breastplate on a priest.
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If it's not a rule yet, I think it soon will be that only one temple/tabernacle is allowed in a territory at a time. Redemption allows quite a bit of anachronism, but having Solomon's Temple and Herod's Temple both out just seems silly.
Yeah I always thought you could only have one up, since you cant have tabernacle and solomons temple down. You have to choose one since they are all the same "fortress" just at different time periods.
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you couldn't because the tabernacle and Z's temple both cantradict it, but Herod's Temple works.
hey prof do you think that they'll make it so you can't have Solomon's Temple and High Priest's palace out?
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hey prof do you think that they'll make it so you can't have Solomon's Temple and High Priest's palace out?
No.
The official rule to be added to the REG is that for gameplay purposes, The Tabernacle, Solomon's Temple, Zerubbabel's Temple, and Herod's Temple are all the same unique Fortress. No other Fortresses are included in this. So you can have only one of those four out, but you can have as many other Fortresses/Characters with Artifacts on them that you want (per the SA/identifier of the Fort/Character/Artifact).