P.S. I recommend that we all try to get on the same Hamachi network to make it easier to find each other.
group: Redemption CCG
password: Cactus
i'm in if it'll help me improve my game
I was just making sure the deck was ship-shape. And it is, unless you let your opponent draw like 7 cards in one battle and then lose that battle.
Ok I'm in. 4-6 years? I'm unsure honestly XD whenever I get in, I challange theraven.you can't i already played my 3 games
how have the other early challenges finished up? Any word on those?Unfortunately Janissary and I have been unable to play. He had to take off when I arrived on Tue, and wasn't around on Wed or Thur either. I got to play with some other people but missed playing him. I'm willing to give him more time, but if we can't match up by the end of the week he agreed to give me the 2 pts and him the 1pt.
Hey Godspeed,
If it makes you feel any better...my luck turned for the worse in my next couple of games. I was the one bleeding Lost Souls and not getting the cards I needed. On another note, we have played before, but it was like 5 months ago.
how have the other early challenges finished up? Any word on those?Unfortunately Janissary and I have been unable to play. He had to take off when I arrived on Tue, and wasn't around on Wed or Thur either. I got to play with some other people but missed playing him. I'm willing to give him more time, but if we can't match up by the end of the week he agreed to give me the 2 pts and him the 1pt.
I should be around late tonight so hopefully we'll still get to play :)
Double Post: I beat Prof 5-1 in a draw based game.Yep, that was a frustrating one as neither defense ever had a successful stop and the entire game came down to who drew available LSs. However, Janissary played well and deserved the win.
Brian Gabe beat me 5-1 :'(
:'(If it's any consolation he did better in our unofficial rematch. :)
I'd like to accept Janissary's challenge (for week 2) if he's still interested. I'm maxed out for week 1.lol not crying just sad although I really did'nt think I could beat youBrian Gabe beat me 5-1 :'(
His offense just couldn't break through my "iron curtain" defense! I really didn't mean to make him cry though.:'(If it's any consolation he did better in our unofficial rematch. :)
lol not crying just sad although I really did'nt think I could beat you
I missed my game opportunity with wk4c. Something important came up. I'll try and be available sometime this week as I am scheduled to be out of town this coming weekend.
accepti don't think you can challenge me if you already accepted a challengeand you can't challenge me anyeways cause i'm BELOW ya so technically i don't think your challenge is legal
And Ill challenge Raven
i don't think you can challenge me if you already accepted a challengeand you can't challenge me anyeways cause i'm BELOW ya so technically i don't think your challenge is legalThis is part right and part wrong. Since xCalebx is in a prior challenge with me, it makes his challenge to Raven a "on the spot" challenge, which Raven could accept or decline completely dependent on his personal choice.
Who to Challenge:
1st 2 weeks: Anyone!!!!
umm soul seeker?
i think i should be in 4th place cause 4 mguys are tied for 3rd
then i accept your on the spot match XDWell I challange you whenever you are done andy.
Well I challange you whenever you are done andy.This would be another "on the spot" challenge, since Raven is already in a challenge. He is therefore free to accept or decline based purely on personal preference.
Well, the decks we played against eachother weren't your typical decks either. In our 2nd unofficial game, Gabe won 6-4. It was fun.
Godspeed,
Mike
I can probably play tommorow night Gabe.
Wednesday...I can't think of anything.
Ill accept but I have to stillplay Prof AND Mr.Must be puntual AndyI'll probably be around this evening, and will look for you :)
well since itssunday Raven would'nt get wqith me ask everyoneLambo,RR etc...he will not get on that wasnot my fault we didnt play
(You can still enter late, but it may be a difficult hill to climb.)I would suggest that the point totals for each person be the sum of the previous 10 weeks. That way if a person joins the tournament late, they could still work their way to the top in 10 weeks. And a person who is at the top would have to keep performing well to keep their spot.
I tried to avoid the most games idea by limiting it to 3. The sum of them may be difficult because it would seem to me to have a lot of ties.Limiting the games to 3 a week is a good idea, however that still means that you could get up to 9 points in a week. It also means that you could get 3 points every week even if you never win. So after a year, a person who lost every game would still have ~150 points. Compare that to a person who had won every game for 2 months and only has ~75 points. Should that first person be ranked twice as high just because they have been in the tournament longer?
I challange wkfc
I tried to avoid the most games idea by limiting it to 3. The sum of them may be difficult because it would seem to me to have a lot of ties.
As for Janissary, I accept.
My available times are Tonight around 10 pm, Tomorrow around 2-4 pm, and Tuesday night if we don't have our game in yet. Let me know what's best for you.
May I challenge the Professor?You may indeed (although hopes for my first week of the tournament with 3 wins take a big hit).
I won't be able to do tonight, maybe tomorrow?5-2 win me.
If stamp isn't ina challange I challange him.
Accepted. Maybe tonight? I'm trying to squeeze in a Type NW w/777Godspeed, too, so let me know.
Gabe, I would like to challenge you.
Godspeed,
Mike
As a final note, I see that the top three all beat up on each other, but ultimately Prof Underwood pulled out the win that counted. He is guaranteed the top spot starting next week. Congratulations!
@ Gabe..did he pull lost souls for you? ;)
I think he knows some secret trick in RTS related to the "triple reset" that assures that.
because I never got a chance to play J ladder I'm not sure but I would do it how they did it
@ Gabe: I didn't realize that if you won the quandary that I would be put in. #1 got beat by #2 but #1 has more points than #2 (provided you win of course.) I'm stuck on who should get it. Maybe I'll rely on the College Basketball polls system and put the new #2 at the top. Mostly for kicks and giggles, but points should matter. Hmmmmmm ???
On another and semi-related note, I was at a presentation recently. They were talking about a book called: "Who moved my cheese?" Officially, I'm a "Scurry". I take ideas and run with them.
I'm running and jumping hurdles as they come. This is an easy "hurdle", but I want to "jump" it the "right" way.
I wish that my "triple reset" system kept me from drawing LSs, however as Gabe said we didn't do it in that game. However, I have found that there has been a more even mix of offense, defense, and other cards since doing the "triple resets". Gone are the games where no GC is drawn for the first 10 turns. Gone are the games where 6 of the first 8 cards are all GEs. I hope that the future Redemption program will have a better shuffling mechanism so that "triple resets" are unnecessary.I think he knows some secret trick in RTS related to the "triple reset" that assures that.I didn't let him do the triple reset since it was a tournament game. :P Nice theory though...
I wish that my "triple reset" system kept me from drawing LSs, however as Gabe said we didn't do it in that game. However, I have found that there has been a more even mix of offense, defense, and other cards since doing the "triple resets". Gone are the games where no GC is drawn for the first 10 turns. Gone are the games where 6 of the first 8 cards are all GEs. I hope that the future Redemption program will have a better shuffling mechanism so that "triple resets" are unnecessary.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's all in your head that RTS doesn't shuffle correctly. But that's another discussion for another time.
I'llchallenge soul SeekerActually Soul Seeker has already played his 3 games for this week.
Who am I supposed to be playing right now?
YOU ARE ALIVE. YAYS! You are challanged by me atm.Didn't I challenge you?
after I challanged him, Idk if its valid or not. im willing to play you later though.YOU ARE ALIVE. YAYS! You are challanged by me atm.Didn't I challenge you?
I challenge:
Calebx
Janissary
RR
I would like to challenge soul seeker.
Godspeed,
Mike
For the time being, I am withdrawing from the tourny. I have way too many deck ideas that I have yet to actually tweak and solidify, so I've been on quite the loosing streak in my fun games even. So you can keep my current rank, Im just not accepting challenges for now. I will be back in this soon, no worries. :P
I CHALLENGE THEE.........REDEMPTIONROCKS!!!*mass of evil chuckling* so be it....
This is the very type of game that I think should never happen in a "strategy" game like Redemption.
Also, I'm on Prof's Redemption CCG Hamachi network if that's helpful.It is extremely helpful. Welcome aboard and I look forward to playing you :)
To say that something like that should never happen in Redemption because it's a strategy card game completely discounts the strategy that goes into deck building.I do not mean to disparage Fireninja's deck building (which is intelligent) or his level of play (which is excellent). I agree with you that in our current state of Redemption, that building decks like this are an effective strategy, and it requires strategy to put a good one together. I am just saying that there are 2 larger problems.
Gabe, please defend your #1 spot.....you're creating undue stress on my obsessive compulsive brain. ;)
The points and leaderboard are not matching up. To pass #1 somebody has got to beat #1.
Nobody has challenged me for two weeks. :D I guess they're all scared.I thought I played you 2 weeks ago? And I asked you for a game the other night when you were too tired. And we have already talked about playing a game this week. I probably will lose, but I am definitely not scared :) However, I do think that perhaps, there should be one mandatory game (out of the 3 for a week) between each person and the person next to them (starting from the top). So #1&2, #3&4, #5&6...
Honestly, I think I'll drop from the tournament. It's been fun but I'd rather play pick up games for fun with you guys. SoulSeeker and Prof Underwood can battle it out for first.You left out Fireninja, who has as much a chance to win as Jon or I :) Also, please do not drop out of the tournament. I really like the idea of having an online tournament, and having the National champions of the previous 2 years participating adds a lot of credibility to the event. I think that we could use a bit of tweaking, but this is just getting started, and needs time to develop. Please stick with us and help us work through it. This same message goes to Tim Mierz who I have been talking to about this very subject.
I lost to Fireninja for game 1 of this week in an OTS challenge.I accept! :)
It was a close game 5-4 but there was virtually no interaction as his defense was no match for my offense and my defense never even got to play a card (or most of the time even block). My defense was almost completely one color, yet Garden Tomb led to 2 walk-ins. I only had 2 royals in my defense, yet King David got a walk-in as well. An AotL and a SoG, and it was game over. This is the very type of game that I think should never happen in a "strategy" game like Redemption.
In addition, I think that after 2 close losses to Fireninja, that I am beginning to suspect that I have a new nemesis :) Next week, I'm coming back for more. (more LSs that I take in a game, or more punishment from Fireninja, to be decided at a later date)
That's why BrianGabe stated that the best decks only win about 80% of the time.
I'll challenge Andyi accept
Actually, I think it was Tim Maly who gave the 80% statistic.I am sure that it was Tim Maly, and the quote can be found here. (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=8830.msg131668#msg131668)
He used Haman's plot. It is my understanding (aren't I a genius for not thinking of this sooner?) that you can't use it in a tourney. Because you CAN'T complete the ability on the card, so you shouldn't be able to use it. just like You can't use Jephtah if you have no top card of your deck.
So soul seeker, what is your official stance on haman's plot? For future games it would be good to know. thanks. :)
was the FireNinja vs Tsavong Lah game official or not?
I was thinking our match was a normal ladder challenge, so you would get points accordingly. I think OTS can be anyone.
I'll chalenge Fire NinjaI accept! I should be on later tonight or mid-day tomorrow.
I lost to Gabe.
That wasn't a tournament game though as I've resigned from the tournament. ;)I am still holding out hope that you are heeding my plea and reconsidering :)
That wasn't a tournament game though as I've resigned from the tournament. ;)
cause he couldn't challenge me lolThat wasn't a tournament game though as I've resigned from the tournament. ;)
Why did you resign?
Godspeed,
Mike
I challenge 777Godspeed. :)
...He [Gabe] played a great game with zero mistakes...I also made a couple of tactical errors...This could describe sooooo many of my games with Gabe :)
I haven't played Prof yet. I hope to do so this week.Assuming that you are within 3 spots of me, I gladly accept.
2. If you beat someone above you, then you get 3 points + however many spots above you they were (perhaps with a limit of bonus 5).Maybe For each 2 spots higher you challenge you gain one additional point. That way if one person tied with you (but they are the one above you) challenging them doesn't net you an extra point. it also stops any cap because in order to gain a +5 points you'd have to challenge +10 spots up.
i'd like to unjoinFor the 3rd time (Mierz, Gabe, Raven), I encourage you to stick with this tourney. If Redemption is going to grow there NEEDS to be a solid online presence. There are too many people out there who don't have people to play with right where they live. These people need a place to play or they'll drop the game entirely.
If Redemption is going to grow there NEEDS to be a solid online presence.
So much for my top secret, prototype deck
Yeh, I think it's common courtousy not to give away another player's deck if they haven't talked about it openly. If someone wants to make their deck public, it should be up to them.
QuoteSo much for my top secret, prototype deckQuoteYeh, I think it's common courtousy not to give away another player's deck if they haven't talked about it openly. If someone wants to make their deck public, it should be up to them.
Yeah, wow, I'm sorry. That didn't even occur to me; I just thought it was a particularly cool game. I removed my comment, though I think it might be too late. My bad. :-\
Your not using heroless?!?!? - Many people ;)QuoteSo much for my top secret, prototype deckQuoteYeh, I think it's common courtousy not to give away another player's deck if they haven't talked about it openly. If someone wants to make their deck public, it should be up to them.
Yeah, wow, I'm sorry. That didn't even occur to me; I just thought it was a particularly cool game. I removed my comment, though I think it might be too late. My bad. :-\
It was an awesome game. Just goes to show what some off the wall deck designs are capable of. It's not a big deal, most players know my playing style, but not always what brigade I'm gonna be messing with. I do look forward to a rematch, though.
Godspeed,
Mike
I would like to challenge fireninja.I accpet. As long as I have the chance of getting up to three points for a win. :) I look forward to it.
Godspeed,
Mike
True, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to be in the tourney. I played as many games or more this past week and none were for a tourney or contest. I also got to play three new people I'd never played before. I thoroughly enjoyed that. :)That is a good point. You are great about being online fairly regularly and always glad to play anyone brave enough to try :) But I know that many of the other people in the tournament (including myself) seem to have been on much more regularly since the tournament started. So for those people who need that little extra incentive to be around, I think it is a good idea to participate.
I'm also going to put up some prizes for the next round of the tournament.Once again, your generosity is awesome. One of my first memories of you was giving away your national championship prize packs to kids around the room, and that continues to be your MO.
The deck you showed me? or a diff one?diff one. Much different, not even close to the same strategy. So you won't know what to expect. =)
I was blessed with the good draw this time and finally beat Fireninja 5-3. It was a great game as always, and I look forward to many more games in the tourney next month :)good thing it was just for fun, and not official, huh? ;) jk, it was official.
One question, what if we want one of the lower prizes but we get higher than it? Like Unholy writ is 3rd, but we get second and want UW?
Second place can choose one of the third place prizes or any of the following: :D
...
First place can choose one of the second or third place cards or any one of the following: ;D
Okey dokey, I assume first place gets first choice?
I have multiple copies of these so more than one person can choose the same prize if they wish.
I really need to learn to read. >_<; sorry for the stupid questions.Don't worry all that before was asked by your ADHD in your heart you knew :)
I really need to learn to read. >_<; sorry for the stupid questions.
oh and another reason is it'll take away the fun and the only word that'll come into my mind is "win"Is wanting to win bad? :-p
no but "all you care about is winning" is badoh and another reason is it'll take away the fun and the only word that'll come into my mind is "win"Is wanting to win bad? :-p
Raven,O_o mhmmm o_O
Please don't stop playing because prizes are involved. You are a valued player and your playing and input are much appreciated. Stick with it and continue to play for fun, cause you never know what will happen.
Godspeed,
Mike
Ah he used his monstrocity on ya eh?ah I played that deck it was a 4-3 his monstrocity my Awful A's but that was'nt a tourney game :-[
He didn't get 5? Hm maybe his offense needs an overhaul.he could'nt get past my deefense
I'll challenge FNCan't. I challenged you Caleb.
To everyone: playing with super "good" competitive decks just isn't fun for me anymore. So I will be playing with competitive, yes(you can ask those that have played my monster) but not very sane. :) I will be testing them(don't worry, by the time anyone plays them they'll be tourney worthy) against good players. And even if I lose, because of the nature of the decks, it's still TONS of fun. Because playing with strateginc decks and trying to win just isn't fun anymore, I mean, they just keep coming out with rediculous cards that destroy everything; so it's pretty much who gets the better draw. But don't any of you people think that I won't be a competitor...... You're on! ;)Yays more people to the insane cause!
I'll challenge FNI accept. I hope our 3 hour off schedules can allow for it.
Godspeed challenged two people in one post. I think he can challenge up to THREE people.I'll challenge FNCan't. I challenged you Caleb.
I'm not sure what RR meant but my challenge standsGodspeed challenged two people in one post. I think he can challenge up to THREE people.I'll challenge FNCan't. I challenged you Caleb.
fireninja I'm sorry aobut not taking you up for the OTS i wasn't there my mom called me for dinner but now I...agree to it!FireNinja shouldn't be handing out OTS challenges because he's tied up in 3 challenges this week. The only wins or losses he can take are from the following:
All fixed for ya ;)Win against stamp. 5-2 I challenge Soul Seeker
I was not ready for your Behemoth! :D
Well since Prof and Fireninja are booked this week, I challenge 777Godspeed and hope someone below me not playing a behemoth deck challenges me.
I challenge 777Godspeed and hope someone below me challenges me.
okay soul seeker.YEAH! Our debate skillz worked! ;)
i'm ready to re-join.
to all, i say: "BRIIIIIIIING IT OOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Janissary, I'll challenge you.
Raven,just needed a couple days to think and some music to psyche me up before rejoining
It is good to see you back.....woooohoooooo
Godspeed,
Mike
I challenge Caleb, Raven and Soul Seeker.you can't challenge me i'm over 4 beneath as is caleb
*Being at the top has one advantage, I don't have to worry about extra points*
i'm challenged to an ots by fireninja and me and mehman still need to play our gameI challenged you(look at my last post) so you can definitely accept.
Ah, okay. I totally forgot about that rule. Thanks. :)Being a ninja helps. :-p but now I can't make 10 points a week. Only 9.
As for the ghost points, I'll let Janissary decide; I don't know how often he tried to get on to play, only that we saw each other once and he had to leave.
Yep, both great games. Very very close. :)They both have 3 challenges already. :)
I'd like to challenge Soul Seeker, but I think you already have three games lined up. If that's true, then I'll challenge RR.
Yep, both great games. Very very close. :)They both have 3 challenges already. :)
I'd like to challenge Soul Seeker, but I think you already have three games lined up. If that's true, then I'll challenge RR.
Hmm. I challenge... Godspeed?
I won over MehMan in an OTS challenge where I drew everything I needed at the right time. He played better than the 5-1 score indicates.
let me know if anyone wants a game i'll just take a nap :laugh:
i challenge SS, RR, and Godspeed.I've used up all my challenges for this week. Try next week.
i challenge SS, RR, and Godspeed.
I challenge Raven
I challenge Raven, STAMP, and Jannissary.
I used Hiddent Treasure to grab SoG
I'm guessing he meant "used Hidden Treasures to play Search to find SoG."
You call that a combo? Okay, so you start with ehud... ;) heheI'm guessing he meant "used Hidden Treasures to play Search to find SoG."
Yep, that is how it went down. Sorry I didn't complete the combo in my post.
Godspeed,
Mike
I had a bad draw
I really felt bad. That was the most uneven draw I've been involved with.
but seemed a little lopsided on the draws. RTS glitch?This is why I start games with a triple reset to force RTS to shuffle more. An unfair game based totally on the draw of the cards isn't fun for the loser or the winner.
For the new week, I'd like to challenge Godspeed, Fireninja, and Soul Seeker. :)Wow, good luck! :) I accept.
Guess Ill challenge Prof and SS and G speed.
I beat Raven 5-4you got lucky.
Reasons to legitimately refuse a challenge:I don't think that is one of the options, Mike. I don't think that you can decline just to accept some one to get more points. Otherwise that would discourage the younger players, cause they just get rejected by the older players cause they're not "good enough." I know this is not what you're saying, but that's what it will be taken as.
1. You are already in a challenge (It is up to your discretion to accept an On-The-Spot challenge.)
2. Your season is on hold (you have to let us know ahead of time if something in life needs your attention)
3. You have already played 3 games in a weeks time.
Actually, I agree with Mike that it is one of the options. Whoever challenges you first is your official challenge. Until that game is played, you should be at liberty to refuse or accept other challenges.Reasons to legitimately refuse a challenge:I don't think that is one of the options, Mike.
1. You are already in a challenge (It is up to your discretion to accept an On-The-Spot challenge.)
Soul Seeker,
I have a quick question about the challenges. I see that I have been challenged and they are listed under the current challenges area. I have not yet accepted any of the challenges. If the challenge has not be accepted yet, should it be listed under the current challenges area? My reason for asking is this - I may have a different agenda/strategy for my challenges that may or maynot include playing those I have been challenged by. I could see someone feeling obligated to play a listed challenge when they possibly were wanting to challenge someone further above themselves (or a scenario like that). Just some food for thought and if I have totally missed this earlier in the thread then feel free to ignore this question. ;D
Godspeed,
Mike
I challenge Raven, STAMP, and Jannissary.
I will not make these official (in that, no one gets ghost points if they are not played) because of how late in the week it is. However, I do want to encourage you to try and get these three games (or just 3 in general) in this week. It will help with catch up since you've only missed a week and a half to date.
I had noticed that people were challenging more than one person at a time, and it made it hard for people who came later in the week to get challenges in (because a good amount of people were already locked in to challenges), and so I had to keep up and make all three of mine early in the week.
Just make it so you can only have one challenge open at a time. As soon as you complete a challenge, then you can challenge another.
I lost 4-5 to prof underwoodThis plain reporting of the score doesn't communicate the intensely close game that we had. The beginning of the game was all Rrulez4theSA. He started with SoG/NJ/GoYS all in the d8. He also attacked with Hur a couple times. The first time I hadn't put down any defense and didn't draw any to replace what I lost, allowing a walk in. The second time I had put down my only EC, but didn't draw any way to stop his first GE from getting rid of my lone EC. Meanwhile, his SoG/NJ had taken away the only available LSs for me to rescue while I had several more sitting in my territory. At that point (4-1 him) I thought the game was over.
Ok, so I've challenged Prof (done) and xCaLeBx (not complete).accept
For my third challenge I guess I'll challenge rr.
xCaLeBx won 5-2.Hey when are you gonna be on?
Good Game
So we are having a sebaticle after this week? Or will the ladder season end this week?
MehMan challengedme in a OTS and i beat him 5-0 G decks are fail
@ prof and tsavong lah. I will be very busy this week(thanksgiving, my brother home for college, etc.) and will try to play you. However, I would like to decline these to allow a game whenever I have the chance to play, instead of accepting and then losing for ghost points.RR's challenge of me ended in a super close 5-4 victory for me. It was a great game.
what is ghosting anyway?
I would propose that the first 3 weeks of the tournament stay the way that they are, and then the last week that the top 4 players all have to play each other. Of course everyone else could still play whoever they wanted the final week.Well ya know.. I don't count anyways ;)
1 vs 2
1 vs 3
1 vs 4
2 vs 3
2 vs 4
3 vs 4
This would fill all 3 games for each of the top 4 people, and would ensure that the champion would end up having beaten the best to be the best. For instance, FN is playing 2 and 3, but went outside the top 4 for his third game. That means that RR would have no chance to win (even if he had beaten me, and also Soul Seeker. Similarly, SS is playing 1 and 3, but went outside the top 4 for his third game. That also means that RR would have no chance to win if SS beats FN.
It seems to me that if someone makes it through the first 3 weeks to end up in the top 4, that they should have a chance to win. It won't matter this month, since RR has already lost one game this week, and the top 3 are all playing each other. But I suggest that we should implement the final week round-robin for the next month (Jan 09).
Overall, I think this tournament has been great. I think we just need to keep it up, invite more people to join (I hear that BubbleBoy may be joining), and keep making slight improvements as we go (like the above suggestion).
Well ya know.. I don't count anyways ;)Contraire mon frere! You count like a math teacher (no relation to YMT or Eric Largent)
I make squigly lines and skip numbers? ;)Well ya know.. I don't count anyways ;)Contraire mon frere! You count like a math teacher (no relation to YMT or Eric Largent)
oh crud that means i'v been ghosting as much as casper the friendly ghost :laugh:what is ghosting anyway?
"Ghosting" is simply not fulfilling your challenges. Let's say: you (Raven) and I (SS) had a challenge. Yet, during the week only one of us (Raven) tries to play the other (me) by requesting several times or being on every day. We may even set up a specific time, but the same person (me) still doesn't show. That is "ghosting" in my book. A person (me, in the example) becomes invisible, like a ghost.
great! what do i do with a tie :PGive me all the points, Put my in first, and crown me king of ruling problems?
well, if it completes the way it is now then my feelings aren't hurt because I would win...I just wanted to get all the games in for fairness sake. We'll see what happens by Sunday.You would win? I was on last night and you couldn't play. I've been several other nights besides. The one day that we both agreed on a date, you didn't show. I'm not saying it was your fault... but you can't seriously mean to give yourself a win for that, can you?
You would win? I was on last night and you couldn't play. I've been several other nights besides. The one day that we both agreed on a date, you didn't show. I'm not saying it was your fault... but you can't seriously mean to give yourself a win for that, can you?
If you've both made every efford to play your match for 2 weeks I can't see any reason why it won't eventually happen. ;)two main reasons... Hamachi not working and 3 hours differnt time, and holidays.
i'm not accepting any challenges til mike and I get our game over with
4. I'm not sure where to go from here (if we don't get the game in), so if a lot of people think it's unfair for me to win (with the most points) but haven't played FireNinja then I will forfeit the prize. I don't think this minor inconvenience should sully a great tournament to this point. It is just another kink that I will need to address by 2009.
For the record, I'm not upset about it...I just don't want to repeat this particular situation in the January tourney. How do we help keep this from happening in the future is my ultimate goal.
lost to mike last night 5-3So now can we play?
I can play today. What time is good for you? I should be able to play any time. Thanks for trying to get that game in. :)OK, I'm around now for several hours. Hope to see you soon :)
i challenge mehman for the tie breakerI challenge you :-p
Just wanted to report in that Fireninja and I played our game together late last night, and he totally schooled me 5-0. Congrats to him for the win.I didn't draw ls till second round and I had two rescued, he always had ls for me. Then I played sog and nj on mine and the shuffler for 4 to shut him out again. But RTS decided that wasn't enough luck, and gave me harvest time the next turn for my fifth soul. My revealer soul got two of his evils to the bottom, and I acoped three other. Pretty lobsided draw. :-\ IT started out with both of us having great cards... but after that, it just turned in my favor. Yay for RTS. [/Total sarcasm]
This month's (year's) tournament is over! Thanks goes out to everyone who made this tourney great. Over the next month, I will go through all the posts and write down the ideas everyone suggested to see how we can improve next year. I think this tourney will continue to get better as I gain more experience and knowledge to work out the kinks, but overall I think this last month worked out great! In the meantime, enjoy the holidays!belive it or not... it was a tad bit more epic than that even! :) Up till that last rescue he is correct... but the last one was crazy. I couldn't block cause I had no raider's camp and my defense simply WOULD NOT DRAW. So I played sog and nj on nero and wanderer... which left my same-reference ls! As he stated, he had banded, which left the books haggai and nehemiah, which didn't match. Then he played burial on my own ls and played harvest time. But it was pretty great.
Because Gabe was interested and maybe others....FireNinja and my game was pretty epic. The final score was 5-4. This is from my point of view and what I can remember of it 2 days later. It was a hard fought battle that went back and forth. Knowing it was FN, I decided to use my quick drawing offense and stall Defense to go against him (Tsavong, Prof, and Caleb all saw this deck which is now 5-0). I got my favorite combo out the shoot but after one rescue, my hero was quickly Christian Martyred. I was bummed because I got my great defender PoTw out which stopped FN once. The second time he came in knowing Prince was there, so out of suspicion I put down a low init guy only to have the enhancement interrupted and then the A-bomb. we were now tied 1-1 with his Guardian out and my Lampstand up. The middle of the game gets fuzzy in my head, but I do remember we countered each other several times. Each of our Ds were no match for the other Os, but I was running into a problem. He was getting through his deck faster...I couldn't get my drawing cards out and he did. Plus, most of my GEs were hiding. With that combo, he ties up 2-2, and I'm confident he has SoG/NJ. I had two NT-only thanks to a switch compared to all his OT guys so I was relatively safe. I needed to get that valuable third because I wasn't stalling him at all. He had three lost souls out: a hopper, anti-band, the slave. The next rescue did it for me. My banded heroes bust through, but he SoG/NJ two and left the anti-band as third...I sprang into action playing my SoG/NJ on his anti-band and my female only (or Nero I don't remember which) to tie it at 4-4 leaving him with no lost souls in his territory freeing my harvest time to grab for the final one. Overall, it was a great game....exciting to the end.
The new season isn't far away! This time the prize is so cool I'm going to have to join so that I have a chance to win!!! :laugh: (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/LinkedDocuments/Faithful%20Servant%20(P).gif)XD
Can we wait for word to start? Not to interrupt gameage, but I sorta got washed out. I haven't been active recently (due to family issues) and so, I could have played some games today, but I didn't think it started due to lack of "official" word. Can we wait for Jon to start it for real before we start doing official games?+1 with jani
As far as Haman Plot, I personally feel it's pretty cheap to play that card on RTS (there is no real consequence). You will never know if someone rips it or not. I'll let a vote be taken to allow the card or not in this tourney. If it is allowed, then it can be mechanically ripped but not in real life (so be aware of this when you vote.)This was never officially decided for the online tourney. What's your call Jon?
I'm still a tad confused as to "Why?" players would not want Haman's Plot to be used in the online tournament. Scratch In an online tournament, removing it from the game is just a effective as tearing it in real life. Just my
I'm goign to challenge Raven for the upcomming week.it hasn't even started,jani!
noobs :doh:
you say "i'd like to join" and then soul seeker when he gets the chance will put your name down
i'm not even gonna perticapate.
why? cause i'm sick and i need to take care of this illness cause i'm putting this illness ahead of almost everything.
wait... is this game official with me and you prof? Cause it's not Monday yet... and I didn't think this game was legit. I was talking about the offical rule PERIOD, not for this tourney.No our game was not official :)
For every game you play in the "Substitute Online Tournament" between now and March 1st, I'll enter your name in a drawing for a Faithful Servant Promo. It doesn't matter who wins or loses. Everyone gets an equal chance to win!!!Awesome prize. Awesome way to get everyone playing!
most of the people who responded said they didn't mind Haman's plot being played. So I say it's okay since that is what the majority wanted.I would like an actual count of people based on who is in the tourney this month. By my count there were only a few people who responded and I don't want to have our first banned card in Redemption in any form based on only a few people.
I would like an actual count of people based on who is in the tourney this month. By my count there were only a few people who responded and I don't want to have our first banned card in Redemption in any form based on only a few people.
I would say all cards are protected from HP rather than banning it.So is this your way of voting for banning HP, and are you participating in the tourney this month (I didn't see you in the Hamachi group for it)?
I'm still a tad confused as to "Why?" players would not want Haman's Plot to be used in the online tournament. :scratch: In an online tournament, removing it from the game is just a effective as tearing it in real life. Just my :2cents:You're missing the impact of HP. It's not about not using it anymore that game. It's about NEVER using it. That's what made people hesitate, and balanced out how crazy freaking good it is. ;D
Godspeed,
Mike
People don't want to use it cause then they can never use it again. Now, online, people don't have any impact.I understand your frustration, and HP is powerful. But it isn't more powerful than NJ which would usually be people's first choice to ban. It isn't even as powerful as AoCP, and you don't have a problem with that even though you can play with that online even if you've never been to Nats and don't really have one yourself. I just think it is a slippery slope once we start banning cards for any reason.
They use it every game, and never spend anymore money.I find many brown defenses won't use Haman's Plot just because they don't want to use a one-use expensive rare. If you use it in real life, your out a $5 card. If you use it in RTS, your out absolutely nothing.
I'm not sure why this applies. Does NJ say, "then, you may rip this card in half?" I'm not saying to ban any card that is powerfull... I'm only saying that because of that last little requirement.People don't want to use it cause then they can never use it again. Now, online, people don't have any impact.I understand your frustration, and HP is powerful. But it isn't more powerful than NJ which would usually be people's first choice to ban. It isn't even as powerful as AoCP, and you don't have a problem with that even though you can play with that online even if you've never been to Nats and don't really have one yourself. I just think it is a slippery slope once we start banning cards for any reason.
As for never using it again, people could easily enter 3 decks into a tournament which all had HPs in them. Perhaps a compromise would be that a player would only be allowed to use HP 3 times in a given month of the online tourney. This would be a bit of a pain to regulate, but as long as people reported it being used against them when they report their scores, then this could be kept track of. I still think we should go the simpler route and just not care if people play it. However, I would present this as a compromise option.
*insert rant about people using Haman's Plot on RTS...
Oh and I accept captain.
haha, nope. We don't just ban cards. Haman's plot was up for banning cause you can't rip it, and it says to rip it. Or were you joking? Cause then I was too. ;D
I want to join.
@sauce, is sounds like you don't agree with using haman's plot... and I agree with all your points... wouldn't you then want it banned?I don't like it being used, and I won't use it for that reason. I just want it to stay unbanned because I don't believe a line needs to be drawn.
okay can someone explain what HP is??? then i'll vote
Actually, I think it ended up being 5-2, and you didn't play badly. You just need to consolidate your deck a little; you had a few too many brigades and not a lot of supporting enhancements for some of them. :)
Im not if we can even play. I dont see you on either hamachi group. So as far as I know we cant connect to each other.
mehman i'll play tonite after gabeWhat happened to your challenge of me? I should be around tonight and I'll be glad to accept your challenge.
I challenge raven.you can't challenge be cause it's against the rules to challenge someone whose above 3 spots
see?
Who to Challenge:
1. You may only challenge someone, who is no more than 3 spots beneath you or 4 if you are in a positional tie with someone (but no upper limit).
well that doesn't sound fair
actually, the first week doesn't count for that. There are no official "rankings" (which also means no bonus points) during the first week. I just leave it leftover from the previous tourney and add new players on the bottom.this is how it doesn't sound fair
actually, the first week doesn't count for that. There are no official "rankings" (which also means no bonus points) during the first week. I just leave it leftover from the previous tourney and add new players on the bottom.this is how it doesn't sound fair
and to let everyone know i'm a bug about what's fair and what's not
Why not play now and get it out of the way? It will keep scheduling conflicts from happening later and "ghost" points.for one jani isn't on and i figure it'd be a good idea to warm up by me and red playing our game just before i play my game with jani and warming up is always a good thing even in exercising :laugh:
Ill just check with you when I get on hamachi. I'm at school right now so it will be a couple hours, like I said. Just giving you a heads up.and i'm suggesting a warm up and play my tournament match with red so i'll be ready to give you a game
Beat Captain 5-3 in a game of two halfs. He won the first half, but I held out long enough to win the 2nd half and the game.
I beat Tsavong Lah 5-1 last night. He got a good draw, but mine was just perfect. Nothing he could have done, and he played a great game.
no i'm not, you were lucky i wasn't warmed up
LEARN TO LOSE?!no i'm not, you were lucky i wasn't warmed up
Oh please! learn to lose!
I beat RED 5-0, my final match of the week.
It was fairly simple. My speedy offense destroyed him, and I doubt he drew much offense. Was it a bad draw for you?
He meant to say Learn to lose with grace probably.Thank you i couldnt have said it better myself :)
He should learn not to flame. And you should learn not to respond to flaming. Are we done learning yet? XD
So can anyone answer my question? Do i just challenge someone else now?
Who can play Saturday morning that still has a challenge left?Yeah, I should be able to play, and I have a challenge. When are you thinking? I'm in CA, so our times are probably conflicting.
I challenge 77matthew
I challenge 77matthew
I accept. When can you play?
I won to captain 5-2 he got a bad draw
I realized that and didn't plan to post this, but then I saw players like Gabe and Soul Seeker had too many spots ;).
I honestly don't know how this works :laugh:, I'm just going to post every game I play versus someone who is part of the tourny
I challenge raven!i decline
then i accept from what prof underwood told meGlad to have you playing with us. Speaking of playing, I just played RR and won 5-1 in a game of excessively lopsided drawing. No one would ever think that they could walk in for 5 LSs against a defense heavy RR deck and win without ever playing SoG/NJ. But the craziness of RTS shines bright on me today.
I do!Hey Stamp, I'm still not sure how far apart our time zones are. I should be able to play starting at about 10:00 CA time. Will that work for you?
I will be available then. :)
captain beat me 5-1. i'm embarrassed to call myself a redemption card player. i made so mnay tactical mistakes. but captain also played a good game.
I challenge gabe for this coming week.... Can you play tomarow around 3:30?
I challenge gabe for this coming week.... Can you play tomarow around 3:30?
I accept. I won't be on that early but I'll be on sometime after that for most of the evening.
OTS Win vs RED 5-1
Challenging Gabe, my only loss last week.
I'm not sure you can actually decline in this case. The rule is that you can decline a challenge if you are already in a challenge. There is no limit to the number of challenges that can be made in a week (as long as you haven't played 3 games). If you have already finished your first challenge, then you are not "in a challenge" anymore. In which case, I'm not sure you can decline Janissary.Challenging Gabe, my only loss last week.I've already accepted my manditory challenge for the week. I only have one challenge left so I'd like to use it with someone I haven't played yet. I'll be happy to play you again next week.
I challange 77matthew
I'm not sure you can actually decline in this case. The rule is that you can decline a challenge if you are already in a challenge. There is no limit to the number of challenges that can be made in a week (as long as you haven't played 3 games). If you have already finished your first challenge, then you are not "in a challenge" anymore. In which case, I'm not sure you can decline Janissary.
I hear what you're saying and completely understand. Let's do this then....the first challenge (I list them in order) is official and can't be refused. The subsequent two can be refused if there is someone else you would rather play. This is similar to what Prof. Underwood was saying and still abides by the rules.
All challenges stand, regardless of who made them:That's not quite what I'm saying. If 3 people challenge me at the same time, then I think only the 1st one would be mandatory and I could decline the other 2 if I wanted (because I'd already be in a challenge).
Prof Underwood
@Thsavongh do you accept?When will you be on
Beat captain 5-3.
beat Prof Playland in an Epic game 5-2
P.S. xCaleBx, I already challenged SS for my 3rd game for this week. But next week, I'm all yours :)
I hate to be a proponet of things I don't agree with, but try prof's triple reset. Personally it's all in your mind...No lost souls in six turns, and me drawing 4 on the initial draw is all in my mind? That looked pretty real to me... :)
Red and me played a game, i Won 5-2. He played pretty well, but my deck was a little advanced for him probably. I liked his deck, and with some work, he'll be a strongh contender in the future. =)
Fireninja, your complaints regarding RTS don't belong here. Once again, if you want to start a rant about something open a new thread. This one is for tournament challenges and results.No need to be so insulting. I was posting to list the score of mine and Caleb's game. The RTS comment was just a "p.s.", not the reason I posted. My post would still be there without it.
Good and bad draws happen in card games. Learn to overcome it and/or lose gracefully. ;)
I beat Captain 5-4 in an interesting game. My offense was TERRIBLE, and I put in the wrong card :(
No need to be so insulting.
beat RR 5-1 oh this deck is teh pwnage(and my opponents get bad draws)5-2 :-p without sog nj or aotl ;) Yeah that draw was hax. GG though
This is the network that's being used by everyone in the tournament. It's for tournament participants only so that it doesn't fill up and we can all find each other anytime we're online.
Group = Online Redemption
Password = 2009
Another Example for clarity: I've played 2 OTS while waiting to find a good time to play Prof (my official challenge). However, I must play Prof by Sunday Night since that is an official challenge.Speaking of which, I looked for you last night, but I guess you were busy. I'm available now, but don't see you. I probably will be around late tonight, and then again on Sunday night. I'm looking forward to our game.
Another Example for clarity: I've played 2 OTS while waiting to find a good time to play Prof (my official challenge). However, I must play Prof by Sunday Night since that is an official challenge.Speaking of which, I looked for you last night, but I guess you were busy. I'm available now, but don't see you. I probably will be around late tonight, and then again on Sunday night. I'm looking forward to our game.
I challenge Prof.It looks like I'm full already and the week hasn't even started. This tells me that I must not be very good since everyone REALLY wants to play me :)
I beat SS in a tight game 5-2. It could have gone either way depending on a few weird situations including both of us forgetting the SA of the "anti-shuffler" LS at one critical point, and a very strange RTS glitch that wouldn't allow me to shuffle any cards back into my deck.yes it does :)
P.S. xCaleBx, now that I'm free for the new week, I'd be glad to accept your challenge if it still stands. I'm also hoping to play Gabe this week, so save me a spot if you can :)
Looks like Caleb is full too (assuming he accepts Captain's challenge).
I challenge SS and Prof UnderwoodI'd love to, but I'm already full for this week. You're first in line for next week though :)
why can't you check the rankings?
ah.why can't you check the rankings?
For Scott it isn't a problem of rankings but a problem of schedule. It appears he has a limited window of when he can play.
accpt raveni can't accept cause i challenged you,you didn't challenge me ;) XD just messin
Here's a list of official games from week 1 & 2, recorded for the Faithful Servant promo drawing. Please check your games and let me know if I missed any. I've decided not to penalize anyone if they get "ghosted". The ghost player won't get an entry but they person that was "stood up" will get an entry.Hi Gabe,
Hey,
I accept Raven's Challenge, and since I can apparently be in more than one challenge at a time, I challenge 77Matthew.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly, WildCard Secretary of Defense
www.freewebs.com/redemptionne (http://www.freewebs.com/redemptionne)
I just beat Caleb 5-4. We had a long, drawn out game where we both had fairly good draws and balanced offense/defense cards, and ultimately we both decked out and it came down to one last EC on his end and three on mine. Great game, and a good example of how awesome Redemption can be when both players get going quickly! :)yup I sucked horribly this week
I challenge 77Mattew. Partly because I get bonus points, but mostly because I want a rematch, our last game was close :D
I'm not at all leaving the game, just don't have time to play so many games. Cya all! :)I'm glad you're not leaving the game, and will miss your tough competition. I'll look forward to your return in a future month's tourney :)
Hey,don't go boasting on your victory,
It is I, Sir Nobody, that did defeat raven 5-2.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly, WildCard Secretary of Defense
www.freewebs.com/redemptionne (http://www.freewebs.com/redemptionne)
Update:I'm fine whenever as long as I know prior.
I have a meeting with my son's teacher at 3:10 pm tomorrow, so that is out.
Janissary and RR let me know what your available times to play are and I'll try to meet you then.
Saturday seems to be free. I have some guys asking me to play tackle football, but I'm just not that fond of the snow...and tackling people/getting tackled in a foot of snow just seems like less than enjoyable to me.
Sunday between church services (1:30 pm and 5:30 pm EST) seems like a good time too.
Finally, I may be able to hop on Friday night.
I just need the two of you to let me know your availability and I'll try to match it.
Lost to caleb 5-0uhm I'm full so that wasn't a tourney game....
Lost to caleb 5-0uhm I'm full so that wasn't a tourney game....
I'll challenge Prof and SauceI'll accept, which means my games for the week are filled.
Challenging Sauce and Gabe. Accepting from Prof.I accept
i challenge gabe for next weekI accept
And for a game to be official both players have to know that it is. It wouldn't be fair to beat someone today in a game that they thought was unofficial (and may have played a weaker deck) and then turn it into an official game for the next week.In this scenario, that isn't the case. We both thought it was official, and after the game I realized it was Sunday.
Well obviously you don't want it counted. You lost. XD.I don't care about points. But if this is theoretically accepted, where is the line drawn? Could I play games days in advance, even weeks?
Game #1 - JanissaryIf any of you 3 are on after midnight tonight, I'll probably be around and ready for a game :)
Game #2 - Sauce
Game #3 - xCaleBx
The board says it is 2AM. I assume we use that time simply because it is accurate for all of us and therefore it saves us the trouble of messing with time zones.Game #1 - JanissaryIf any of you 3 are on after midnight tonight, I'll probably be around and ready for a game :)
Game #2 - Sauce
Game #3 - xCaleBx
awesomeI don't know if I'll be on long enough to finish one. I only have about 20-25 minutes.
GAME!?
hahah I love it how I'v only won 1 won game within 3 weeks! lolI love it how:
The board says it is 2AM. I assume we use that time simply because it is accurate for all of us and therefore it saves us the trouble of messing with time zones.SS is in the EST, and since we are all in America and no time zone in America is ahead of the EST, I am going to assume that SS will want us to wait until midnight EST. In which case, I'll be ready to play in 3 hrs (unless SS confirms that we can go by GMT)
So, if that is true, we could play now because it is Monday.
The board says it is 2AM. I assume we use that time simply because it is accurate for all of us and therefore it saves us the trouble of messing with time zones.
So, if that is true, we could play now because it is Monday.
Hey,Wow, I didn't realize you could change the time zone.The board says it is 2AM. I assume we use that time simply because it is accurate for all of us and therefore it saves us the trouble of messing with time zones.
So, if that is true, we could play now because it is Monday.
You do realize that you can change the time on the message board to say just about whatever you want right? According to my message board it's already Tuesday :) (although sadly you can't set the time offset to anything greater than 23 so you are apparently limited to +/- one day)
The message board is normalized to GMT (so that standard time offsets can be used) so I guess you _could_ use that as the "official" board time, but that seems kinda silly since I'm pretty sure none of us live in England.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly, WildCard Secretary of Defense
www.freewebs.com/redemptionne (http://www.freewebs.com/redemptionne)
1 - you don't allow losing to discourage you and therefore keep tryingI say we give Prof Underwood the "awesome person" award. Always looking at the bright side and bringing fun to the game. Go you! :)
2 - your persistence has probably made you a better player and more likely to win in the future
3 - your continuing to play games still gives you enough points to be beating some people
4 - you have about as much chance as anyone else to win the FSP, due to Gabe's generosity
I say we give Prof Underwood the "awesome person" award. Always looking at the bright side and bringing fun to the game. Go you! :)I appreciate the nomination, but I must decline. I don't "always" look at the bright side. In fact (confession time) Gabe had to correct me and put me back on the straight and narrow path during our last game when he was playing with a particular card that I have extreme disdain for :)
(this will be my last post cause it's off topic but I thought I'd point out how awesome Mark is). :)I say we give Prof Underwood the "awesome person" award. Always looking at the bright side and bringing fun to the game. Go you! :)I appreciate the nomination, but I must decline. I don't "always" look at the bright side. In fact (confession time) Gabe had to correct me and put me back on the straight and narrow path during our last game when he was playing with a particular card that I have extreme disdain for :)
Cheap Decks is an anagram for speed in this case.Actually I have no problem with speed. I just don't like decks that don't let you do anything. Example: Garden Tomb, Ignore, Zebulen, and stuff like that. I'm not complaining just clarifying what I meant. :)
Actually I have no problem with speed. I just don't like decks that don't let you do anything.I take it you have never played T2.
Actually I have no problem with speed. I just don't like decks that don't let you do anything.I take it you have never played T2.
I just don't like decks that don't let you do anything. Example: Garden Tomb, Ignore, Zebulun, My own Raider's Camp Self Capture deck, and stuff like that
I challenge the Sauce, Prof Underwood and 77Matthew. :)
I challenge the Sauce, Prof Underwood and 77Matthew. :)
"one official challenge until you play the game rule."I thought that rule was to say which challenges HAD to be accepted (the first one), not whether you could choose to accept more. I thought that the rule meant that you could turn down people (besides the first one), not that you COULDN'T accept people.
I lost to Janissary, xCaleBx, and Rawrlolsauce all within about 6 hrs on the first day of the week. My tourney week is over, ...There always Type NW.
*sits back and spams*go away raven ::)
make me, sir goes-off-topic-too-much :P*sits back and spams*go away raven ::)
you really need tobe more clear for the 50th time I'm full...I'm not madbut ask before you sayits a tourney game... You challenged me like 5 pages back... I didn't check because I assume when you challenge someone you wouldn't do 3 more games before said game.
beat Rawr for my 3rd game of the week 5-4 in a very scary game and its all about the mouse clicking :-*
I see a patern Week #1 win 3 Week #2 lose 3 Week #3 win 3 hmmmmmm :laugh:
oh dude yyou misunderstood that that was at captains REAL sorryyou really need tobe more clear for the 50th time I'm full...I'm not madbut ask before you sayits a tourney game... You challenged me like 5 pages back... I didn't check because I assume when you challenge someone you wouldn't do 3 more games before said game.
beat Rawr for my 3rd game of the week 5-4 in a very scary game and its all about the mouse clicking :-*
I see a patern Week #1 win 3 Week #2 lose 3 Week #3 win 3 hmmmmmm :laugh:
Beat Sauce 5-4 in a speed based drawfest.Drawfest for you. How many times did you attack with Hur and Gifts of the Magi? 4, maybe 5? :P
Rawrlolsauce, PM your available times this week for our challenge. Thanks!When did you challenge me? I don't seem to remember this :/. Let me look back.
I challenged so mine was mandatory but you just got mixed up by what I said :laugh: I was yelling at captain sorry for the mix upThat isn't what I'm talking about. If I did all my challenges, I would have 4 games.
Sauce your order of events is wrong upon research. the order I found is as follows:Your right, I got STAMP's posts confused.
Caleb Challenged
Prof Challenged
Sauce accepts Prof and Caleb
Jannisary Challenged
Stamp challenged
Sauce accepted
Games were listed as follows: Prof-w for sauce, official challenges: Janissary and Stamp possible games: caleb
then played in this order
Prof
Caleb
Jannisary
In an epic 3 turn game, I lost to Gabe 5-2
When did you challenge me? I don't seem to remember this :/. Let me look back.
again i challenge sir nobody and red
Well then, I challenge 77Matthew!I accept. When can you play?
played a game with sauce. rts stinks. i quit the tourney. seriously. i hope there's eventually a change in the rules to offset bad draws.
outta here.
A regular deck of cards is also random, but you don't find someone getting dealt a royal flush and winning everyone's money in the first draw.This isn't wasn't happened. I had a modest hand at best, had you been able to get to 8/9 or higher I would have been helpless. You got a hand that was worse than mine, but the point is to use your skill and not rely on luck. If everything is based on luck, why do we see so many faces repeat in the top 10 at nationals? The simply fact is they can shake off a hard loss or two and continue to play to the best of their ability. They won't get frustrated and quit just because they aren't doing as well as they hoped/feel they should.
rts stinks. i quit the tourney. seriously. i hope there's eventually a change in the rules to offset bad draws.I understand your frustration Stamp. I have lost my last 5 games in a row. I made a mistake or 2 in some of them, but I still feel like I could have won all of them with slightly different draws. And that seems to happen a lot when I play other players who are great players with great decks. It can be discouraging.
I just beat Matthew 5-1. I happened to discard his SoG, and hisjust fyi... I wouldn't tell people the decks you are up against. I know a lot of peope like to keep their decks a secret. :)
Also, I challenge Soul Seeker, again! Unless you're already locked up in a game, in which case I'll have to go down the ladder a little. Only Wednesday and everyone's full!
I challenge sir nobody
Bobby Fischer would more than likely have beaten me in a game of chess in minutes, but the skill level of the player is involved in that case ... But what about the player who buys a starter deck and a couple of booster packs, learns the game, builds a deck, goes to their first tournament, and through chance loses their first tournament game in three turns...This is really about the same thing.
...The only reason I continue to play the game, besides the fun and fellowship that was mentioned earlier, is the fact that with every single opponent I have ever played I have clearly seen an increase in scriptural knowledge...This is a great reason to play, and to keep playing.
I'll be honest, if I spent the time to set up a game of Risk and then lost in less than 5 minutes, I would put the game away for a long time.If every game (or even most games) were like this, then I agree with you. But if you've been playing for years and this only happens a handful of times, then is it really a good reason to quit the game?
I challenge 77mathew
I challenge 77mathew
I accept. When can you play?
i challenge gabe
Hey,I accept! PM me with a list of times you can play.
I challenge the Sauce.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Lost to sauce. In a very long but fun game! ;D 5-3How ironic, I lost to sauce in a very short, not overly fun game :\
I challenge tim
you can't decline
Reasons to legitimately refuse a challenge:
1. You are already in a challenge (It is up to your discretion to accept an On-The-Spot challenge.)
2. Your season is on hold (you have to let us know ahead of time if something in life needs your attention)
3. You have already played 3 games in a weeks time.
4. If you are challenged on Sunday prior to the next week. :P
I challenge caleb.I accept well have to work out a time....
I beat Captain 5-3. His deck was REALLY interesting. I thought I was going to win easily when It was 4-0, on the 5th turn or so :P. He then shut me out for a while, matching each of my moves with the perfect card.
He played ANB at the best possible time which was amazing, I would have won for sure the next turn. It ended up if his deck was 7 cards bigger, mostly on defense, I would have been destroyed. All I had left was AOCP (no purple characters) and Zeal (Non Negateable, but he had a large band that I was worried about. I would have used it to discard KOT in a territory so I could use an offense band and cross my fingers).
Really interesting deck. It kinda seemed like a Hero-Lite, but none I've ever seen before.
(To Clarify)
I'm not declining RR's (beings I've played my first official challenge already), I was just wondering why 2 challenges to the same person were official at the same time.
Both my challenges were listed as official when I only accepted the first one. Its not a problem at this point, I'm just wondering why because it might get hectic in the future if this is the case.(To Clarify)
I'm not declining RR's (beings I've played my first official challenge already), I was just wondering why 2 challenges to the same person were official at the same time.
They aren't unless you choose to accept them.
@ Soul Seeker - I think it's a bad idea to list challenges on the front page as though they are official when they haven't been accepted yet by one of the parties involved. It's likely to make a person feel obligated to play the challenge when in fact they are not. If it had only happened once I'd assume it was a mistake but it's happened a couple times now.
After an epic battle with ProfI totally agree with that description. I lost (for the 6th straight game), but it was a ton of fun. We both went all the way through our decks. I was down to my last hero and he was down to his last couple cards in his hand. I went in and used my last GE to take LS #4. He did sneaky stuff to get to #3. I made a last desperate play to try to get some stuff back that would allow me to get the win, but he blew it up using the last cards in his hand. I thought I had the game stuck at 4-3.
Lost to Prof in an OTS 5-2. Once again a very long but fun game ;DI completely agree with that as well. What is with me and epic games lately? I thought this one was almost over and then all of a sudden it was like we started over. I've never actually had a game like that before on RTS, and it was all thanks to Captain's very unorthodox deck. It is in the early stages, but watch out for it once he finishes.
@ Soul Seeker and Tsavong Lah - Raven was the first to challenge me this week. I'll only be accepting OTS challenges until that game is complete. If we happen to be on at the same time cool. If not, I'll probably play someone else.
Tim I can play tomarow around 3:30? or 4:00?
I'd like to join in on the fun. Do I need to recite a secret password or something?
I'd like to join in on the fun. Do I need to recite a secret password or something?
wha?
Has anyone else had problems when playing against Caleb where he plays his cards wrong to gain an advantage?I have not noticed this in my games with Caleb. I often see people play a card incorrectly, and occasionally do it myself as well. I simply correct them when I see it, and accept correction when I do it. When we are in doubt, we'll look in the REG or ask on the forum. I haven't noticed any patterns with any particular people that would lead me to suspect that these situations were any more than an honest mistake.
I'm challenging brederic right now...your not even in the tournament!
Stefferweffer can be in the tournament if they want to be. All they need to do is say, "Soul Seeker, please add me to the tournament."I'm challenging brederic right now...your not even in the tournament!
So after doing all the debate stuff that I needed to do, I'd like to join for the next week. Will that be the second week in February?Jan and Feb got combined for this round. So you would be joining on Week 6. It'll be good to have you back :)
Stefferweffer can be in the tournament if they want to be. All they need to do is say, "Soul Seeker, please add me to the tournament."I'm challenging brederic right now...your not even in the tournament!
And assuming that they do that tomorrow, then they could also say "I want to challenge Brederic."So after doing all the debate stuff that I needed to do, I'd like to join for the next week. Will that be the second week in February?Jan and Feb got combined for this round. So you would be joining on Week 6. It'll be good to have you back :)
i challenge ravenwhere'v you been for the past week?
i challenge gabe in an official challenge
and red, i accept
I won in a short OTS against RR thanks to an awesome draw. Afterward we had a lot of fun brainstorming about his new creation :)It actually is theclock's idea, I'm just test driving it. O_o oddly people come to me with that sorta thing, maybe cuz I'm used to insane ideas.
I'd like to challenge the Sauce. :)And I'd like to be insanely rich and own a private island. But I don't see that happening any time soon either... ;P
yeah i'm tough!LOL! take it easy! here's a slim jim *tosses slim jim to sean*
OOH YEEAH!*macho man randy savage impression*
Hey hey now guys... don't make me use my mod powerz.Dude...how did you become a mod? :-\
Dude...how did you become a mod? :-\
I think I'm going crazy...I'm seeing green stars around Lambo's post...it must be his mad powers! :oDude...how did you become a mod? :-\
It was a typo. He meant "mad powerz." :o
2. Gabe, I agree that you don't have to play Andy for 2 reasons. 1. you want to play other people (and a certain "nobody" wants a crack at you!)
Hey
I challenge Gabe.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
are you calling me a "nobody"?!Hopefully, the above quotes and bolded words clears everything up. I didn't call anybody a nobody who didn't already call themselves a nobody.
I challenge xCaleBx :)Accepty
Brederic challenged me to an OTS which I won 5-0. He had a sweet block on me first turn but never really got set up after that.
I challenge The Sauce :)Mmm... barbecue...
(I have a tournament and I have to go to Iowa
Wow, I got my dates wrong. I'm a week ahead :). (It was in Minnesota anyway). That messes up my schedule... :((I have a tournament and I have to go to Iowa
Oo there's a tournament in Iowa? Where?
Fact: Sauce isn't a random person. Fact.fact: if you say someone isn't a random person and then turn around and say they are a random person then your the random person
Fact: Sauce is a random person. Fact.
Fact: If you understand both of the above statements you have a high IQ. Fact.
I just want everyone to enjoy this substitute tourney until Jacob's ladder is back up and running.go ahead and ask justin how long that's gonna be
Call me a jerk, but I expect a torn card every time the special ability of HP is used. I don't care if I'm playing against a 4 year old. If you want to use the special ability then you should use the special ability.Jerk.
The precedent for years has been that you are not required to tear a Haman's Plot when you use it in a friendly game. The games in this "tournament" are scored and ranked, but there are no prizes for winning or placing which in my book means these are friendly games.+1.
Requiring people to tear their plots in a setting where there is no benefit (read no potential prizes) for doing so is going to either cause people to waste their money by tearing the card or, if everyone instead decides to take it out of their deck, creates an environment that does not represent the tournament environment very well, and since I believe lots of us are here to prepare ourselves for the tournament environment that seems silly.
I have no problem with people playing HP, I do have a problem with it not be required to be ripped.Well that's good for you richies that have many copies and multiple decks at a time, but for decks which use it because you don't rip it, I think it is fine. What is the problem with it? Why make players destroy valuable cards for friendly games? Remind me not to play you "for fun."
not a good time to challenge me cause if your busy today and tomorrow i suggest you cancel that cause i'll be away this weekend
I challenge Capitan!
Not much to say, I got Tribal Elder -> Jacob -> Captain of the Host first turn, wanna know what he got first turn? HAMAN'S PLOT.....
Yes :(.Not much to say, I got Tribal Elder -> Jacob -> Captain of the Host first turn, wanna know what he got first turn? HAMAN'S PLOT.....
Did he have a brown EC to play it on? ::)
I challenge Capitan!
I accept your challenge. Unfortunately I will have to eat dinner in about 40 minutes and playing my deck might take much longer lol. So will you be open around........ 7 or so?
Ibeat MR.White boy afro aka Thsavongh:rollin:
hey Capitan I'm sorry but our challenge is obsolete it wouldbe illegal for me to challenge you do to you being to far under me :'( :-X sorry
Fun play though... I attacked with Jephtah to take out two strong evil characters, and then he blocked with greek philosophers. I dont use red, just Jep... so I used cm on my own guy! That was pretty awesome! :D
Why are you afraid of that stupid Greek guy? Don't you know, Greeks are weak. :D
You sir, are a racist.
RR and I played in week six.
I'll challenge ProffyAssuming that you are referring to me, I'll have to decline for now as I'm already tied up in a challenge with Soul Seeker.
For my 2nd game I challenge Soul Seeker :)
I defeated RED in a hard-fought 5-4 ALL-SE-United States OTS challenge. Thanks for playing Red. You've got to teach me how to get RTS to shuffle three lost souls to the bottom of your deck :)rts does that
RR and I played in week six.
Woah it's not in the thread? I definately reported it...
I beat rr 5-1 in week 6. RR would you mind confirming this so that ss and gabe know. Thanks.
Also, next week is the final week, we need to think of a rule where all the players that can numerically reach number 1 should play each other. That is like 7 or 8 players. Just saying, it would be nice if the top people played each other to attempt to determine a clear "winner." Let me know what you guys think. (Fact: Sauce and I have not played each other at all during this current tournament despite being within a couple spots of each other.)The easiest way to have a clear winner out of 8 people would be a 3 game single-elim play-off (this would especially fit well due to the normal amount of games in a week being 3).
@ Prof, since I'm rarely on as late as you. We need to set a time for our game.OK, I could play at 4:10pm on Wed or Thur. Or I could play anytime after 9pm on Thur. If none of those work, then we can look at other options.
@ Prof, since I'm rarely on as late as you. We need to set a time for our game.OK, I could play at 4:10pm on Wed or Thur. Or I could play anytime after 9pm on Thur. If none of those work, then we can look at other options.
Captain, when can we play our challenge?
I'm available Thu-Sat between 8 & 11 PM
there is hardly anyone in this that i want to face and even if there is they wouldn't play me cause they've already played me.Challenge the hardest people and learn when they own you. Not saying this as an insult, its how I learned.
i challenge FN
jus because it helped you doesn't mean it'll help meFalse. Playing people that are better at the game than you will always help you, if you try to learn from it.
I don't accept Raven. I already challenged Jani. So I don't have to. And I won't because I hardly get time/permission to play much these days, and would probably not be able to play you, therefore wasting your challenge. Maybe next week. If I can play I will look for you in an OTS, though.I don't understand. Janissary is maxed out in games..how are you playing him, unless it is out of his own goodwill?
Jani, when can you play? I'll try to get free later today. And what time zone are you in?
Okay... sure. I guess... I'm just saying that I don't get the point of challenging me JUST to get ghost points. He knows I can't play. I think he's just taking advantage of the situation.No he's not. He challenged you before you told anyone that you couldn't play this weekend.
:police: We're doing something special for the final week. We are going to do a round robin tournament. I will list the likely pairings Sunday Night. :police:
that's what she saidfixed.
Is he even in this?
Is he even in this?I guess he is now :)
i lost 5-1
i didn't even have a chance to make a comeback thanks to stupid red dragon
What is your name!?
Sir Lancelot of Camalot! (sp?)
What is your quest!?
I seek the holy grail!
What is your favorite color!?
Blue!
77matthewi lost 5-1
i didn't even have a chance to make a comeback thanks to stupid red dragon
Who did you play? Who made the challenge?
you could let me or Prof take your spot! ;)
I challenge 77mathiew. When can ya play?
I challenge 77mathiew. When can ya play?
I'll challenge Saucy
i challenge bredric come on brent!
I defeated the great Sir Nobody 5-3.
assuming you win... ;)nonsense. "I lost to the pwnage known as BrianGabe" would work.
Now that I used the adjective "great" on SirNobody, and "mighty" on Jannisary, I must go think of another adjective for Gabe!Just the name Gabe is adjective enough.
I can't play any games until Sunday if even then just a heads up for everyody some stuff came up and I'll be gone for all this week so Thsavong Profand the other guy I'll be free sunday around 3 pm ESTI'll be on around that time to play you...I'm the "other guy."
"other guy"=Lame
I can't play any games until Sunday if even then just a heads up for everyody some stuff came up and I'll be gone for all this week so Thsavong Profand the other guy I'll be free sunday around 3 pm ESTyay change of plans I'm free all day tomorrow and the days following :)
I lost to xCaleBx 1-5. He played well, too.speed ;D
he was decked out
"I lost to the pwnage known as BrianGabe"He pretty much explained everything there.
I had a terrible draw, 15 heroes in a 56 card deck, and how many did I get on the first turn? Second turn? Third turn? One... That one hero I draw got a quick CM :(.
I got Gifts + Hur first turn, he got DON...
So is the new week started? If so, I challenge Gabe. I think it's time we had a tie-breaker game. ;)
Hey is there still a way to sign up? I really havnt got an answer yet lol Sorry if its due to my lack of reading...
WOOT!!!
I would just like to publicly thank Gabe again for his generosity in giving this card, and helping to make this tournament the great success that it has been. In spite of me having to take a season off, I really think that having a vibrant online community playing is going to be key to growing this game in places where people don't have the opportunity for a lot of F2F games. Keep up the good work everyone, and I'll look forward to playing you again soon :)
P.S. Thanks to whoever beat me in that week 6 game, and made this victorious drawing possible :)
Prof Underwood RR 6
Prof Underwood Tsavong Lah 6
Prof Underwood xCaLeBx 6
is it too late to sign up? I don't get how it all works... but I'd like to get back into RTSYou can still join
what does OTS mean?
Play your site deck... I THINK I can beat it.Did it work.....?
Played Sauce in an OTS. I won, 5-3. It was a great game. Back and forth... a suprising amount of both character and dominant blocks from two deck with such small defenses. I look forward to playing him in the future. :)I chose the wrong deck. One had a suicide defense, one had an immunity defense.... Ahh well, good game.
Awesome! I have an idea...I'm on like, all of them... the official redemption one for one...Quote from: The Ever So Mighty One Who Easily Outsmarted Ring Wraith, Then Laughed About ItPlay your site deck... I THINK I can beat it.Did it work.....?
What Hamachi network are you on?
Just to let everyone know, I have opened up 8 new spots in the Online Tourney hamachi group based on people not playing this round. That means there are spots available for all of you new people joining :)joined this one sauce. I can play tonight, I think.
Group = Online Redemption
Password = 2009