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Special Aug one-day ROOT
« on: July 02, 2013, 09:05:29 AM »
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This will be the next ROOT tournament for the 2012-2013 Season. If you want to join, post here telling me that, and I will give you a matchup for next week.

Players have suggested many rule modifications in the past.  This month we will be doing a "Uthminister Draft".  The way this works is that there is ONLY 1 copy of every card ever made.
1 - Each player who signs up picks 2 colors of offense and 2 colors of defense.  Everyone has access to brigadeless cards (Doms, Arts, Forts, Sites, & LSs).  Multi-colored cards are available to anyone who chooses at least 1 of their colors.
2 - Each player then makes up a 150 card draft list choosing only from those cards with the card that they want the most at #1 down to the one they want the least at #150.  They PM that list to me.
3 - Once I have all the lists, I'll do a 75 card draft using their lists (skipping any cards that are already taken), and send a PM back to let each person know what cards they ended up getting.
4 - Each player makes a legal deck on RTS using only the cards they received in my PM.
5 - On Aug 3rd, we'll have a "live" tournament online where everyone uses only this deck.

Colors still available:
Blue          Purple         Teal                              Black           Gold           Orange
Blue          Purple         Teal                              Black           Gold           Orange
Blue          Purple         Teal                              Black           Gold           Orange
Blue          Purple         Teal                              Black           Gold           Orange
Gold          Red             White                           Brown         Green
Gold          Red             White                           Brown         Green
Gold          Red             White                           Brown         Green
Gold          Red             White                           Brown         Green
Green       Silver                                               Crimson       Grey
Green       Silver                                               Crimson       Grey
Green       Silver                                               Crimson       Grey
Green       Silver                                               Crimson       Grey

Players signed up (limited at 16, and MUST be available all day Aug 3rd):
1.  The Hobbit            (Blue,    Green / Gold,   Grey)
2.  KoalaKingoFA        (Purple, Teal   / Brown, Orange)
3.  theselfevident       (Green, Silver / Brown, Green)
4.  RTSmaniac           (Purple, White / Orange, PG)
5.  Drrek                   (Green, Teal   / Black, Grey)
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 09:11:45 AM »
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Join for now. If I'm not avaible said day I'll let you know ahead of time.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 09:37:53 AM »
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Join for now. If I'm not avaible said day I'll let you know ahead of time.
Firstly, when you join, I need to know which 2 colors of offense and defense you would like to choose from.

Secondly, if you are going to join, please be at least pretty sure (8 out of 10) that you'll be able to be free that day (ex. you are usually free on Sat, or at least can be if you plan on it).  Since space is limited, I don't want to knock people out of spots for no-shows :)

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 09:44:04 AM »
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I would be in but the 3rd is the one Saturday I can't be in August (well excluding the 10th of course)
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 10:15:58 AM »
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Red and Palegreen.
Gold and Brown.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 11:29:35 AM »
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Red and Palegreen.
You pick 2 of each. ;)

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 12:11:25 PM »
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Blue evil Gold Please.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 12:32:41 PM »
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 12:41:55 PM »
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Fair enough Quote Talker. Blue Green Gold Grey

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 12:43:35 PM »
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Do lost souls have to be included in our 150 card list?
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 01:21:34 PM »
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Do lost souls have to be included in our 150 card list?
They do if you want ones with special abilities.  Otherwise, you can fill in however many more you need with No SA LSs.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 01:36:42 PM »
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Green and gold for good.
Black and Brown for defence.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 01:41:45 PM »
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Unfortunately I cannot play  :(  My brother is getting married on August 3rd. 

And I think I actually had a shot at first in ROOT RNRS points...
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 01:47:10 PM »
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And I think I actually had a shot at first in ROOT RNRS points...
Yeah, you've had a great run this year.  This was especially true this month as you steamrolled through the competition.  Congrats on a great year!

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 04:52:56 PM »
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I'll take purple/teal and brown/orange.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2013, 06:12:27 PM »
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I'm in I will take Silver/green and brown/pale green

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2013, 06:13:08 PM »
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This will really suck if you sign on too late to get any of the good colors.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2013, 06:31:18 PM »
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Do the cards everyone has access to go on our 150 list?

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2013, 07:59:19 PM »
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This will really suck if you sign on too late to get any of the good colors.
This might be balanced somewhat though as the people who sign on last will have the best chance to pick colors that less other people are using, and therefore will have less competition for the top cards.

That being said...Brown is no longer available at this point.  Of course you could still pick up some brown guys by choosing other colors (ex. Getting The Amalekites Slave by picking evil gold).

Do the cards everyone has access to go on our 150 list?
Yes.  Other than No SA LSs, any card that you want in your deck will have to be on your 150 list.  If you want one of the 10 Son of God cards (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J) you'll have to draft it.  More challenging will be drafting 1 of the 2 New Jerusalem dominants (Warriors, Promo).

An important note about drafting cards that have multiple variants:
You only have to specify which variant of a card you want IF they are different.  For instance if you draft "Son of God", then as long as any of them are left, you'll just get one.  However, if you want the New Jerusalem dominant or the New Jerusalem site, you'll have to be specific.  If you do NOT specify which variant you want you'll get the one that appears first on 3LG price list.  So if you just put Bravery of David, and don't say which one you want, you'll be stuck with the stinky one :)

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2013, 08:47:00 PM »
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An important note about drafting cards that have multiple variants:
You only have to specify which variant of a card you want IF they are different.  For instance if you draft "Son of God", then as long as any of them are left, you'll just get one.  However, if you want the New Jerusalem dominant or the New Jerusalem site, you'll have to be specific.  If you do NOT specify which variant you want you'll get the one that appears first on 3LG price list.  So if you just put Bravery of David, and don't say which one you want, you'll be stuck with the stinky one :)

Son of God has different variants, so actually you should have to specify that.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2013, 11:26:19 PM »
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Purple/White PaleGreen/Orange
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2013, 11:47:32 PM »
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Green/Teal Grey/Black
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2013, 03:16:11 AM »
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Son of God has different variants, so actually you should have to specify that.
Good point.  I guess you would need to put the I/J SoG in as one spot on your list of 150, and put that A-H SoG in a separate spot since there is a functional difference between those.

Good Green & Evil Brown are both gone at this point.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2013, 08:05:00 AM »
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If this is truly supposed to be a draft using every Redemption cards made then each SoG should be available to select. Ex: SoG A deck, SoG B deck, SoG C deck...

You might decide within that whether or not you want to use the various reprintings of the same card. Ex: SoG C deck and SoG c deck.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2013, 11:11:18 AM »
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If this is truly supposed to be a draft using every Redemption cards made then each SoG should be available to select. Ex: SoG A deck, SoG B deck, SoG C deck...

You might decide within that whether or not you want to use the various reprintings of the same card. Ex: SoG C deck and SoG c deck.

I agree. Honestly, I think it might be best to simply spot everyone in the tournament the four A-H starter doms, since there are so many variants of those, and let all the other doms be part of the draft. But I won't be able to commit to it either way (considering I have a tournament each of the two previous weekends) so take my suggestion as you will.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2013, 12:33:26 PM »
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If this is truly supposed to be a draft using every Redemption cards made then each SoG should be available to select. Ex: SoG A deck, SoG B deck, SoG C deck...

You might decide within that whether or not you want to use the various reprintings of the same card. Ex: SoG C deck and SoG c deck.

Considering you pick two colors to draft I don't think this was ever intended to be a real draft.

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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2013, 01:14:40 PM »
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Why don't we just draft our four colors and let artifacts, doms, lost souls, ...etc be available no matter what. Doms are a pretty big deal and I would like to see a balanced tournament.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2013, 01:35:50 PM »
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If this is truly supposed to be a draft using every Redemption cards made then each SoG should be available to select. Ex: SoG A deck, SoG B deck, SoG C deck...
I'll basically be using the 3LG pricelist as I do the draft.  So if it's listed there separately then it is available to draft (ie. A deck SoG, B deck SoG, C deck SoG, etc.)  But on your list of 150 cards that you want, I'm just saying that if there is no functional difference between 2 versions of a card, then you don't have to put that card down multiple times.

So for example:
Player 1's list:
1 - New Jerusalem (dominant - Warriors/Promo)
2 - Son of God (I/J)
3 - Son of God (A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H)
4 - New Jerusalem (site - Womens)
5 - Angel of the Lord (A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J)
6 - Thaddeus (Disciples)
7 - etc.

Why don't we just draft our four colors and let artifacts, doms, lost souls, ...etc be available no matter what.
First of all, because I'm trying to replicate the rules that this event was run with at Nats in Columbus.  Second of all, because I've enjoyed playing in the TOSS tournament where some decks have dominants, and some (like mine) don't.  It adds another element of strategy to the draft.  You can load up your first spots on dominants, but that means that other people will be able to get the best characters, enhancements, artifacts, fortresses, etc. before you.  So people will have to choose how they want to prioritize their drafts.

Considering that there are 10 SoGs and less than 10 players currently, that balances the most important dominant.  It is also likely that each player will get 2 of (AotL, CM, and Burial), but probably only 1 other dominant, so most decks will have a maximum of 4 dominants.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2013, 10:21:39 PM »
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Bump.

We've still got room for some more players :)

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2013, 05:37:20 PM »
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I have to drop. I have something with my church that day.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2013, 09:50:29 PM »
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Updated.

I'm still hoping for a bit more participation if people are free that day :)

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2013, 07:14:46 PM »
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Sorry Mr.Underwood. ima have to drop. Internet is totally screwed over right now.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2013, 01:19:39 AM »
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Updated.  With only 5 participants currently, this is looking to be a short tournament.  I though about just dropping it, but I suppose that it might be helpful to try this once with a smaller group to see how it goes.  Then we could learn whether it is fun enough to do it with a bigger group in the future.

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2013, 02:55:35 AM »
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I would really love to do this. But it doesn't look like the internet will be fixed in time. I am using my moms phone for everything right now.
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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2013, 01:06:37 AM »
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Sad to say but I think I'm going to have to back out. I just found out that I won't be available that day. Sorry to let everyone down.  ;)

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Re: Special Aug one-day ROOT
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2013, 03:30:09 PM »
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Unfortunately this event never ended up happening.  I was only sent 1 draft list (thanks for doing your part Hobbit).

I still think this has the potential to be a really interesting event, but obviously it needs to be handled differently to make it work.  The first time it was run (Columbus Nats) plenty of people turned in lists, but creating the decks made it impossible.  This time, I think we could've made the decklists for everyone, but since it wasn't in person, people didn't turn in the draft lists.  I hope that someday we'll figure out how to make it work on both ends.

As a side note, I'll be stepping down from ROOT leadership after filling my term for the last year, and I am excited to announce that we'll be back up to 3 leaders for the next year.  My co-founder Soul Seeker is back, as is another former ROOT leader (Prof A), and a couple new leaders as well (jmhartz 2013 and Red 2014) :)

 


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