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This will be the first ROOT tournament for the 2012-2013 Season. If you want to join, post here, and I will give you a matchup for next week. Since there is a smaller group playing this month, we will only be going for 4 weeks.
The winning rule modification for this month is the "Anti-Deckout Rule" - if a player is decked out, then they may NOT make a rescue attempt (unless their opponent has also decked out).
Similar to last month, all posts made by Monday night/early Tuesday morning will be counted as official, unless it is contradicted by an opponent.
Week 4 (final) Matchups:
MKC vs. slug
theselfevident vs. RTSmaniac
Tarthan vs. Prof U
Red vs. bye (or next player to join)
Final Rankings:
Player: VPs (Diff)
1. MKC 13 (+3) * won head-to-head
2. RTSmaniac 13 (+8)
3. theselfevident 10 (+6)
4. Red 10 (-1)
5. slugfencer 10 (-5)
6. Prof Underwood 9 (-5)
7. Tarthan 6 (-4)
8. New Raven BR 1 (-3)
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In. I personally don't like these rules but to go with the lesser of three evils Anti-Deckout
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Possibility to add a 4th option? Best 2 of 3 with 15 card sideboard?
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Possibility to add a 4th option? Best 2 of 3 with 15 card sideboard?
That would get my vote, I probably wouldn't play otherwise. Though the switches would have to be on the honor system...
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I would like to play but I would not play under any of those restrictions (except the sideboard).
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Possibility to add a 4th option? Best 2 of 3 with 15 card sideboard?
I'm actually also interested in trying this at some point, but we've JUST started talking about this idea and there are a lot of details to work out (ie. how big of a sideboard to use). I'm also a bit concerned whether people will be able to get in 3 games during the same week. Back when ROOT required more games a week like that, there was a lot of ghosting.
I'd like to think about this a while longer before trying it in ROOT. The 3 options that I tossed up there for this month are ones that have been around for a while. I'm also interested in giving them a shot if they get the most votes.
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I'm also a bit concerned whether people will be able to get in 3 games during the same week. Back when ROOT required more games a week like that, there was a lot of ghosting.
There is a big difference between playing 3 separate games with 3 different people in a given week than playing best 2 of 3 against a single opponent. I mean, if your opponent comes for the first game, then it's not like they can avoid you for Game 2 or 3. -_-
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Another interesting idea that I think I've posted somewhere was Type C(haracter) where only characters and Lost Souls were allowed. I may or may not be able to play but I will have to see what happens and if I can get RTS working.
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Possibility to add a 4th option? Best 2 of 3 with 15 card sideboard?
I will vote for this one when the opportunity arises.
C) Type 3 rule - ONLY 60 card decks exactly, 6 LS to win, equal offense and defense, T1 deck limitations
only if 4 of a card are allowed, and no equal on good and evil.
We could also combine A and B. :)
Sign me up for ROOT and I will join my good friend Red in choosing option B.
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I'll play. We gonna use hamachi?
I'll vote B, but I like the best 2/3 sideboard rule, too.
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Though the switches would have to be on the honor system...
I was trying to think of the best way to implement this for RTS. One way to do it is build 3 decks...1 is your Game 1 deck, and the other 2 are your Game 1 deck + 15 card sideboard. When it's time for siding, open one of the other decks, take out 15 cards, and play. Repeat with the other deck if there is a Game 3. Or maybe it would just be easier to have 1 deck and edit it for Game 2 and 3 with your sideboard choices...
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Though the switches would have to be on the honor system...
I was trying to think of the best way to implement this for RTS. One way to do it is build 3 decks...1 is your Game 1 deck, and the other 2 are your Game 1 deck + 15 card sideboard. When it's time for siding, open one of the other decks, take out 15 cards, and play. Repeat with the other deck if there is a Game 3. Or maybe it would just be easier to have 1 deck and edit it for Game 2 and 3 with your sideboard choices...
I was thinking the last one would be how it would be done, the issue is how to make sure only 15 cards are changed. It also might be possible to start off with a X+15 size deck (where X is your preferred deck size) then when the game starts, shuffle your hand, search your deck for the fifteen cards you don't want, take them into your hand, and set them aside face down (or remove them from the game). Then you can shuffle again and d8 to start the game. It'd be tedious, but it would make sure you're doing it fairly. The honor system would probably work just as well with the general population of the community, but in order to ensure fairness, that might be the way to do it.
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start off with a X+15 size deck (where X is your preferred deck size) then when the game starts, shuffle your hand, search your deck for the fifteen cards you don't want, take them into your hand, and set them aside face down (or remove them from the game). Then you can shuffle again and d8 to start the game. It'd be tedious, but it would make sure you're doing it fairly.
This would probably be the most fair way to do it. The other problem is that I still suspect that there will be a lot of times when people don't have enough time to play 3 games consecutively. In those cases there will have to be an honor system that they are not changing more than 15 cards.
Also, I have another question about the best 2/3. Do both players have to play the same deck for all 3 games (with the sideboard of other cards to switch), or can they switch entire decks for games 2 and 3 (since people check in multiple decks for a tournament)?
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A sideboard would hopefully be the end of the Multiple Deck Madness we have now.
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Same deck and sideboard for Game 1/2/3.
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I'm in. I vote option b.
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Sideboard would be pretty tricky in ROOT. It'd take too much time in between for editing decks, unless you somehow made people register the sideboard.
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Hi, time permitting, I'll sign up for this month. I vote C.
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New Rankings and
Match-Ups for
the Week 1 Posted!
Since there's only 3 games to get in this week, if we could all try to go ahead and play before THIS Sunday night (I know it's a short week) we could actually move a bit faster on this tournament. If it's not possible, we can work with it, but please try to get in your first game as soon as possible :)
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Am I correct that the only way to play as of now is hamachi?
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Am I correct that the only way to play as of now is hamachi?
Yes.
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Am I correct that the only way to play as of now is hamachi?
Mostly yes.
If both players agree to an alternate method of playing (ie. in person, over AoL chat, Skype, over the phone, underwater, etc.) then you may do that. However, if either player is unwilling to play by one of these other methods, then Hamachi must be used. If one of the players does NOT have Hamachi (despite it being free and extremely simple to use), then that player would have to forfeit in that case.
Hopefully someday, Redemption Connect will return, but until then, this is our best option.
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Do not believe I will be able to get in my game this week. Just moved to a new house yesterday, and I will not be able to get internet until next week on Thursday.
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Do not believe I will be able to get in my game this week. Just moved to a new house yesterday, and I will not be able to get internet until next week on Thursday.
That is unfortunate, but I guess we'll just have to go with the regular deadline of a week from Sun. If everyone gets their games done early we'll try to speed things up though.
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RTSmaniac wins 5-2
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I thought the point of ROOT was participation. Why are we doing a rule change that only the person running root is enthusiastic about that is hurting participation?
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Is it possible to join for the rest of the tournament? or is is it closed?
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I thought the point of ROOT was participation. Why are we doing a rule change that only the person running root is enthusiastic about that is hurting participation?
I have enjoyed the rule modification greatly. I wasnt sure what kind of deck to run for the tournament so I playtested some different strategies and I think that is where the fun was for me. Of course I had a great playtest partner with Red and then we got paired up to play Round 1 tonight and I surprised him with a very standard Gardensciples deck where i decked out and played my New Cov. to put a card on the bottom and attacked with converted Uzzah to rescue against a NT LS and a tapped 2 Liner FTW!
I am really looking foward to a best 2 out of 3 with 15 card sideboard if possible.
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wrong game... but yeah i confirm a pathetic 5-2 loss.
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I thought the point of ROOT was participation. Why are we doing a rule change that only the person running root is enthusiastic about that is hurting participation?
Actually I'm not enthusiastic about this month's rule yet (not having played with it yet). I would have been excited about the GotM rule. However one of the fun things about ROOT is that we can try out some rule variations and actually see what they are like. I'm may not be excited about this rule, but I'm willing to try it and hopefully I'll enjoy it as much as RTSmaniac seems to. If other people aren't willing to give it at least a chance, then that is up to them.
Is it possible to join for the rest of the tournament? or is is it closed?
Yep, we'd be glad to have you join us. I'll get you a game as soon as possible :)
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wrong game... but yeah i confirm a pathetic 5-2 loss.
Oops. All mixed up, you don't know what to do..
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I hath outlasted Prof U
5-2
GG :)
I like the modified rule change :)
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Confirmed. It was a good game with slug, and the rule change actually did really have a lot of affect on the game.
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MKC won 5-2, well strategized deck
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Confirm, great game!
Rule change did little to nothing in our game. Neither player decked despite playing speedy decks due to strategically played Mayhems and Grapes.
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Can you please update pairings and rankings?
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Yeah, with only 3 pairings a week, I see no reason we can't update as soon as all our games are in.
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New Rankings and
Match-Ups for
the Week 2 Posted!
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Won my game against Red. Some crazy awesome gameplay towards the middle, but eventually slowed down to whoever ripped Sog/NJ first because of each of us locking each other out with tech.
Props: Awesome proplay by Red dropping Sam's Edict on my RBD to push a Mayhem through.
Slops: Covenant with Death. The problem with this card is it has too many absolutes. If you have an absolute, there is no room to balance or check it even in increments. The outs to this card are few and far between because of poor design.
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confirm 5-4.
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RTSmaniac=7
me=2
GG :)
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I got sick. Ghost points to TSE.
I'll try to up date scores and rankings today :)
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New Rankings and
Match-Ups for
the Week 3 Posted!
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I defeated slug 5-0 with a perfect 1st draw. Thanks for the game!
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I confirmeth
GG :)
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I defeated Tarthan 5-4.
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Confirmed
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Won my game against RTSmaniac 5-4.
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4-5 loss me
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i wish i could join but hamachi is the only way i can connect and i cants download it :(
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New Rankings and
Match-Ups for the
Final Week Posted!
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Why are we repeating week one?
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Why are we repeating week one?
Sorry about that. I think I've got them fixed now. MKC is playing the highest player that he hasn't played yet. And Red gets the bye because Tarthan and Prof have both already had one.
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Why are we repeating week one?
Sorry about that. I think I've got them fixed now. MKC is playing the highest player that he hasn't played yet. And Red gets the bye because Tarthan and Prof have both already had one.
if skype could be a resource for playing games i would so join cause i do have skype and i wouldn't mind playing red so he doesn't have to receive the bye ;)
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if skype could be a resource for playing games i would so join cause i do have skype and i wouldn't mind playing red so he doesn't have to receive the bye ;)
If Red would like to play you over Skype for this final week, then I'm OK with that :)
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Red could play Andy. maybe not over skype but Red could play andy.
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Red could play Andy. maybe not over skype but Red could play andy.
Red, how could we play if not over skype and hamachi? facebook is slow, do ya have a webcam? cause if so we could video chat, i mean i can cam chat using skype to facebook
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i lost 5-2 against red, quite a game it was :)
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Confirm
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we played over the phone but if that was a way i could play for ROOT by playing over the phone and be still allowed to compete, i would be asking to join faster then a jack rabbit on roller skates
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ok finally got hamachi downloaded and i would like to get involved with ROOT again can i get in for the rest of this month?
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ok finally got hamachi downloaded and i would like to get involved with ROOT again can i get in for the rest of this month?
This is actually the last week, so you're just in time to join us for the restart next week. I'll be posting a signup soon :)
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ok finally got hamachi downloaded and i would like to get involved with ROOT again can i get in for the rest of this month?
This is actually the last week, so you're just in time to join us for the restart next week. I'll be posting a signup soon :)
mark, if i was to sign up, can phone be the only way for me to compete in the tournament? cause i've wanted so much to re join and not have to download hamachi cause my dad has given me grief for it
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mark, if i was to sign up, can phone be the only way for me to compete in the tournament? cause i've wanted so much to re join and not have to download hamachi cause my dad has given me grief for it
I know that Hamachi has been a deal-breaker for you Andy, and I wish that Redemption Connect was working again so that you could join us on a regular basis. But I just can't force other players to play by phone/Skype/aol/etc. Those methods are all just extremely slow and cumbersome. If players are willing to play that way, then it's fine with me, but if they aren't, then it would just mean that you'd have to forfeit a bunch of your games, and that wouldn't be very fun for you, and could skew the tournament results. Thanks for your interest, but probably it'll be better just to wait for Redemption Connect to return.
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ok then, thanks for letting me be able to compete just once in root when playing on the phone
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ok then, thanks for letting me be able to compete just once in root when playing on the phone
I'm glad it worked out too :)
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Lost to slugfencer 3-5.
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confirmeth.
GG! :)
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Epic standoff ending in a win for me 5-4.
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Epic standoff ending in a win for me 5-4.
Confirmed, oh so close!!! Great game!
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Well, I officially Hate Joseph. Prof. Wins 5-2
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Final Rankings Posted!