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Title: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 09, 2010, 02:51:42 PM
Haves

Prophets packs
limited packs
Texp packx1
apostles
patriarchs
kings
priests



Needs
Encouragement
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheJaylor on July 09, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
4 what?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 09, 2010, 02:53:45 PM
Love your hair Nathan!

One TxP pack plz. :)
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheJaylor on July 09, 2010, 03:12:04 PM
Ok Nathan your picture is funny and awesome
 reserve an apostles for me
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 09, 2010, 03:12:31 PM
hehe...not quite


limited-10 encouragement
patricarchs-30
apostle-30
priests-30
TXP-100

so basically you pm me what pack you want and I send you the pack after you give me the subsequent amount of encoragement.. (note you can only give one per hour so makes sure to pop in and out of the bards for a few days a ring me up) Pm me every time you boost my encouragement.

4 what?

click on the encourage ment +1 button.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 09, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
This is exactly what I don't like about this system.  I'm in.  Reserve a Patriarchs.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Michael_of_the_Star on July 09, 2010, 04:26:38 PM
I'm reserve a King Pack.

ML.

Oh yeah, YOU can do it Hobbit.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 09, 2010, 04:43:10 PM
I am at 19 now pm me or you don't get credit kk.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Michael_of_the_Star on July 09, 2010, 04:44:25 PM
May I ask, why you need encouragement? I mean like what type of encouragement do you need, so I don't say something that would against you. Thank you.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 09, 2010, 04:45:47 PM
May I ask, why you need encouragement? I mean like what type of encouragement do you need, so I don't say something that would against you. Thank you.
No, click on the encouragement thing below my board name. 30 of those and you get the pack you have always dreamed of...

PM me each time you give me encouragement so i can track it thanks...
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 09, 2010, 05:03:03 PM
teams partners get 1/2 off? ;)
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Michael_of_the_Star on July 09, 2010, 05:14:43 PM
I encouraged
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: cg097 on July 09, 2010, 05:40:10 PM
TheHobbit13 probably has the most encouragement out of everyone by now. Unless The Schaef has more.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Michael_of_the_Star on July 09, 2010, 10:55:44 PM
Another Encouragement for you.

ML,
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 09, 2010, 11:17:45 PM
Hey Hobbit,

Can I get 5x TXP packs if I give you a thumbs up bot?

El Amor,
Salsa
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 09, 2010, 11:53:51 PM
lol, no.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 09, 2010, 11:56:19 PM
Its a really good deal. If you just let it run for 3 weeks, you'll have over 500 encouragements! Run it on multiple accounts to reduce your time.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 09, 2010, 11:57:35 PM
Its a really good deal. If you just let it run for 3 weeks, you'll have over 500 encouragements! Run it on multiple accounts to reduce your time.

hmmm I wonder if I could become an elder with that kinda encouragement.....
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 09, 2010, 11:59:32 PM
Tell you what, I'll better the offer.

I'll include 5x accounts, and you'll be able to run the bot on each one to + 1 you. Thats 120 encouragements a day, so in just 1 year you will have obtained 43,800 encouragements (+ what everyone else gives you)
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: RTSmaniac on July 10, 2010, 12:08:23 AM
encouragment for ya
+3
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Ben Wilk on July 10, 2010, 01:35:11 AM
You are a very nice person.


Ok there are your encouragments il take txp
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: alpal455 on July 10, 2010, 06:31:18 AM
Reserve a TxP for me.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: LadyNobody on July 10, 2010, 10:24:57 AM
*bangs head repeatedly against desk*

This is soooo not the point of the encouragement button.

~Britta
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 10, 2010, 10:51:05 AM
Reserve a TxP for me.
kk


*bangs head repeatedly against desk*

This is soooo not the point of the encouragement button.

~Britta

You are just bitter that I have more encouragement than you.  :P
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: DDiceRC on July 10, 2010, 11:27:28 AM
Encouraged. No compensation necessary.

And, for good measure, encouraged everyone else on this thread.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 10, 2010, 12:25:29 PM
Encouraged. No compensation necessary.

And, for good measure, encouraged everyone else on this thread.
Encouragement returned.  This is how it's suppose to work
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 10, 2010, 12:27:09 PM
Encouraged. No compensation necessary.

And, for good measure, encouraged everyone else on this thread.
Encouragement returned.  This is how it's suppose to work

Hey! Was that a wise shot?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 10, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
It'd only be a wise shot if I took it at someone wise.  *rimshot*
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Michael_of_the_Star on July 10, 2010, 02:45:38 PM
Another encouragement.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 10, 2010, 02:51:35 PM
*bangs head repeatedly against desk*

This is soooo not the point of the encouragement button.

~Britta
Then what is it for?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: alpal455 on July 11, 2010, 09:58:16 AM
Do we encourage you before you send the packs or after.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 11, 2010, 10:23:03 AM
obviously before.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 11, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
They cross in the mail.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 11, 2010, 02:25:09 PM
I hope you are not seriously expecting to get packs. If so, I have an official Hobbit13 Faithful Servant Promo for you.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 11, 2010, 02:26:47 PM
I'd offer to beat Hobbit up at Regionals for lying, but he is too tough. Rumor has it he is strong enough to open a Priests pack without a scissors.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: crustpope on July 11, 2010, 02:35:49 PM
How can you tell who has encouraged you?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: everytribe on July 11, 2010, 02:55:31 PM
I hope you are not seriously expecting to get packs. If so, I have an official Hobbit13 Faithful Servant Promo for you.

This offer is legit. You have to clear it with him ahead of time and pm him when you give him encouragement. he is keeping track and has a limited # of packs he will send out.

What possessed him to make this offer I'm not sure?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 11, 2010, 03:01:28 PM
I hope you are not seriously expecting to get packs. If so, I have an official Hobbit13 Faithful Servant Promo for you.
Are you still pissed about that?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 11, 2010, 03:03:11 PM
I'd offer to beat Hobbit up at Regionals for lying, but he is too tough. Rumor has it he is strong enough to open a Priests pack without a scissors.
Oh yeah?  I can open a tin with my bare teeth.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 11, 2010, 03:41:54 PM

I am out of packs no more new encouragers.

I hope you are not seriously expecting to get packs. If so, I have an official Hobbit13 Faithful Servant Promo for you.

Don't joke, that thing could be worth something down the road, considering there is only 3 copies in print. Besides, you know you like it.  :-*
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 11, 2010, 03:59:44 PM
As of now, you have 100 encouragements. I gave you all 100. SRS. TXP please.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 11, 2010, 05:03:03 PM
Sure, and I will see you at regionals and give you something else you won't be able to forget.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 11, 2010, 07:14:26 PM
Ohh!  I want one!  How many encouragements does that take?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 11, 2010, 09:52:54 PM
free of charge
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 11, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
If its a kiss give it to Ring Wraith instead.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 12, 2010, 12:09:33 AM
Don't joke, that thing could be worth something down the road, considering there is only 3 copies in print. Besides, you know you like it.  :-*

FYI to everyone else, the card did indeed have lipstick on it.

Are you still pissed about that?

I know you don't like me, but you really need to watch your language.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Professoralstad on July 12, 2010, 12:11:50 AM
Don't joke, that thing could be worth something down the road, considering there is only 3 copies in print. Besides, you know you like it.  :-*

FYI to everyone else, the card did indeed have lipstick on it.



Which was probably Nathan's attempt to give it access to the Female Only Soul.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 12, 2010, 02:42:48 PM
I'd offer to beat Hobbit up at Regionals for lying, but he is too tough.

Could you tickle him instead? Just wait for an opportune moment, like the final round in a close match with time about to expire.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheHobbit13 on July 12, 2010, 02:46:24 PM
I'd offer to beat Hobbit up at Regionals for lying, but he is too tough.

Could you tickle him instead? Just wait for an opportune moment, like the final round in a close match with time about to expire.

 BE GONE EVIL TICKLE MONSTER!  :liturgy:
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 12, 2010, 09:38:43 PM
Are you still pissed about that?
I know you don't like me, but you really need to watch your language.

First off: What?

Second
I predict the encouragement will be gone by Friday
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: LadyNobody on July 12, 2010, 10:11:24 PM
Are you still pissed about that?
I know you don't like me, but you really need to watch your language.

First off: What?

Second
I predict the encouragement will be gone by Friday

I believe he is referring to the 'p' word in your sentence. It may not be considered 'swearing', but it is a frowned upon word. Not that your a lady, but as my mother would say, it's 'unladylike'.

(So is belching...but I've never claimed to be a lady, just a princess ;) )

~Britta
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 12, 2010, 10:33:25 PM
Technically, a Princess would be extremely ladylike.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: LadyNobody on July 12, 2010, 11:14:00 PM
Obviously. Thus the  ;) smiley.

~Britta
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: that one kid on July 12, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
Sooooo, basicly we get a pack for being a dork? We just sit there clicking the button forever!
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 12, 2010, 11:35:31 PM
Obviously. Thus the  ;) smiley.

~Britta
My brain just censors out the smilies.  That, and I wanted everyone to think I was smart and knew things.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 12, 2010, 11:45:03 PM
I believe he is referring to the 'p' word in your sentence. It may not be considered 'swearing', but it is a frowned upon word. Not that your a lady, but as my mother would say, it's 'unladylike'.

My mom would have washed my mouth out with soap if I used that word. It's not very nice in general, but to my family it is indeed a swear word.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: fyero on July 12, 2010, 11:46:57 PM
I believe he is referring to the 'p' word in your sentence. It may not be considered 'swearing', but it is a frowned upon word. Not that your a lady, but as my mother would say, it's 'unladylike'.

My mom will wash my mouth out with soap if I use that word. It's not very nice in general, but to my family it is indeed a swear word.

yes same here if it is worded this way
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 12, 2010, 11:48:10 PM
its no different than the people that say crap on here.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: SomeKittens on July 12, 2010, 11:50:22 PM
And I know for a fact that one of the elders frowns upon the usage of said word.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 12, 2010, 11:50:57 PM
I believe he is referring to the 'p' word in your sentence. It may not be considered 'swearing', but it is a frowned upon word. Not that your a lady, but as my mother would say, it's 'unladylike'.

My mom would have washed my mouth out with soap if I used that word. It's not very nice in general, but to my family it is indeed a swear word.
That's your rule and that's fine but you really shouldn't try to force your rules on other people
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 12, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
Except that the Bible says differently.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 12, 2010, 11:58:55 PM
And I know for a fact that one of the elders frowns upon the usage of said word.

and this is supposed to mean...?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 12, 2010, 11:59:42 PM
Except that the Bible says differently.*
*Citation needed
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 13, 2010, 12:00:41 AM
Romans chapter 14. Read the whole thing.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 13, 2010, 12:07:02 AM
Quote
10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. [quote/]
I think you gave me the wrong chapter....
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 13, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
No, you didn't read the whole thing. You stopped at what you wanted to hear. Continue on with verses 15-20.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: EmJayBee83 on July 13, 2010, 12:18:01 AM
No, you didn't read the whole thing. You stopped at what you wanted to hear. Continue on with verses 15-20.
While I also am not in favor of the language used, I am having a really hard time following you here, YMT.

Taken in context Romans 14 is talking about causing the brethren to stumble by abusing our Christian freedom. It is not some general call to eliminate all that could possibly be offensive. Are you claiming the use of the word "pissed" is causing your faith to waver?

It is clear from things I have posted previously that I take a rather more expansive view of this passage and what can be considered a cause of stumbling for the brethren. That said, I really do not follow the argument you are advancing here.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 13, 2010, 12:20:35 AM
22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God.

I really think you're the one who didn't read the entire chapter...
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 13, 2010, 12:26:11 AM
Taken in context Romans 14 is talking about causing the brethren to stumble by abusing our Christian freedom. It is not some general call to eliminate all that could possibly be offensive. Are you claiming the use of the word "pissed" is causing your faith to waver?

"Taken into context" seems to be where we disagree. Verse 15 specifically talks about hurting fellow Christians, verse 16 about what you do being spoken of as evil, verse 18 about being acceptable to God and approved by men, verse 19 about pursuing peace, and verse 20 about giving offense.

Regarding all his other comments, it appears he has no respect for elders or fellow Christians who have asked him to watch his language. In fact his response by PM was "Nah."
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Alex_Olijar on July 13, 2010, 12:30:20 AM
Yeah, I'm with YMT here. Sure, the word is acceptable in many circles, but in this circle, an objection has been raised. It seems to me that if JSB was more interested in not being a stumbling block rather than in convincing others of the correctness his viewpoint on this matter, that the post in question would have been edited/removed by now.

I have made a similar post that was called into question by YMT in the past, in reference to a slogan used by Westboro Baptist Church. I simply removed the post. It really isn't that hard to do and is not worth the now wasted page of arguing. In a Christian Forum, we really shouldn't have to have these arguments. People should be willing to lay aside their rights for the betterment of the community (in this case, for increased unity).
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 13, 2010, 12:37:25 AM
I have made a similar post that was called into question by YMT in the past, in reference to a slogan used by Westboro Baptist Church. I simply removed the post.

I do remember that you responded to my PM almost immediately, and I appreciated that trememdously.

Now I get to "encourage" you even though I couldn't before.  ;D
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 13, 2010, 12:41:52 AM
I agree with YMT, ~Achewon Enleaye~, fyero, and Alex_Olijar.  Words like "pissed" and "crap" may not be technically cursing, but they are crude words that some people find offensive.  If these people have expressed that they are offended by them, then out of respect for your Christian brothers and sister, you should avoid using them.  I would understand if you continued to use them because there truly was no other way to express yourself.  However, anyone who can't express their feelings without the use of these crude words is quite simply ignorant of the English language.

I don't think JSB is ignorant, therefore, I would expect that he could find better ways to express himself.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: fyero on July 13, 2010, 12:52:16 AM
I agree with YMT, ~Achewon Enleaye~, fyero, and Alex_Olijar.  Words like "pissed" and "crap" may not be technically cursing, but they are crude words that some people find offensive.  If these people have expressed that they are offended by them, then out of respect for your Christian brothers and sister, you should avoid using them.  I would understand if you continued to use them because there truly was no other way to express yourself.  However, anyone who can't express their feelings without the use of these crude words is quite simply ignorant of the English language.

I don't think JSB is ignorant, therefore, I would expect that he could find better ways to express himself.

well said. and i find YMT's scripture reference intriguing. We should all be cautious of what we say for we will all be held accountable, would you use words like those before God?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 13, 2010, 01:16:15 AM
Fine we'll take it verse by verse
15 If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom
Fine I'll give you that, how the word "piss" destroys you I don't know but anyway

16 Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil.
This verse is completely irrelevant to this debate so we'll ignore it

17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,
This verse says that what you do doesn't really matter, the kingdom of God is about peace and joy you're the one who started all this so...

18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
Same as verse sixteen

Regarding all his other comments, it appears he has no respect for an elder or a fellow Christian who have asked him to watch his language.
I noticed a few errors in your previous post I just wanted to make sure no one got confused on how many people actually care

I responded the way I did because I really don't like it when people don't mind their own business

and since you apparently didn't see it before
10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God.

You really should read the entire chapter it's quite interesting
 
and one last note to YMT and Prof:
Who made you the "Moral guardians" of the boards?
Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it. The bible is very clear on the subject of judging others DON'T.

(deploys flame shield)
 
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: EmJayBee83 on July 13, 2010, 01:32:13 AM
Taken in context Romans 14 is talking about causing the brethren to stumble by abusing our Christian freedom. It is not some general call to eliminate all that could possibly be offensive. Are you claiming the use of the word "pissed" is causing your faith to waver?

"Taken into context" seems to be where we disagree. Verse 15 specifically talks about hurting fellow Christians, verse 16 about what you do being spoken of as evil, verse 18 about being acceptable to God and approved by men, verse 19 about pursuing peace, and verse 20 about giving offense.
I find it very difficult to find any "context" at all in which Romans 14 is meant to be taken to mean, "I have the authority to publicly rebuke a brother because how he chose to express himself personally offends me." That interpretation makes mock of the prohibition against "passing judgment on one another" and the command to keep these things "between yourself and God" that bookend the passage in question. Romans 14 is about the responsibilities of Christian liberty and is not meant to serve as a basis for legalism.

Quote
Regarding all his other comments, it appears he has no respect for elders or fellow Christians who have asked him to watch his language. In fact his response by PM was "Nah."

Quote from: Proverbs 25:9-10
If you argue your case with a neighbor, do not betray another man's confidence,
or he who hears it may shame you and you will never lose your bad reputation.

I agree with YMT, ~Achewon Enleaye~, fyero, and Alex_Olijar.  Words like "pissed" and "crap" may not be technically cursing, but they are crude words that some people find offensive.  If these people have expressed that they are offended by them, then out of respect for your Christian brothers and sister, you should avoid using them.
And while I agree with this sentiment, I do need to say that the amount of harm done by JSB's expression strikes me as rather small compared to the possible damage caused by a mature Christian brother misinterpreting Scripture (Romans 14) to bolster his side in a petty squabble.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 13, 2010, 01:44:01 AM
"crap" may not be technically cursing, but they are crude words that some people find offensive.
And on that note, I'm fairly certain a certain naughty swear word is filtered to "crap" on the boards. Curse you, Schaef :P!
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Gabe on July 13, 2010, 01:48:15 AM
And while I agree with this sentiment, I do need to say that the amount of harm done by JSB's expression strikes me as rather small compared to the possible damage caused by a mature Christian brother misinterpreting Scripture (Romans 14) to bolster his side in a petty squabble.

I agree.  I grew up under this kind of legalism and the end result was the it gave me a false view of who God is, influencing me to choose years of rebellion before I saw my deep need for Him (and who He truely is).

All that to say this kind of abuse of scripture to support ones own petty preferences really torks me off.  Am I allowed to say that?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Professoralstad on July 13, 2010, 01:57:57 AM
All that to say this kind of abuse of scripture to support ones own petty preferences really torks me off.  Am I allowed to say that?

Ban.

From now on, we will use a new word to convey a strong sense of annoyance:

Anewbeginning/s/ed/y.

"Your anewbeginningy attitude is really starting to anewbeginning me off."
"Remember how anewbeginninged MJB was when they errata'd his favorite Green card? Twice? I can't even remember what card it was now though."
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on July 13, 2010, 02:20:50 AM
That was quite possibly one of the funniest posts I've read in a long time. It would have been the funniest if you had managed to get the /s/ form in there.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 13, 2010, 02:29:08 AM
and one last note to YMT and Prof:
Who made you the "Moral guardians" of the boards?
Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it. The bible is very clear on the subject of judging others DON'T.
You are right that the Bible is very clear (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%205:12&version=NIV) on the subject of judging others.  You are wrong about what it says.  The Bible actually says that we are NOT to judge those outside the church (that's God's job), but that we are supposed to judge those inside the church (that's accountability).  So either you are a Christian and my challenge to you is entirely appropriate, or you are not a Christian and I owe you an apology for assuming that you were.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: JSB23 on July 13, 2010, 03:06:35 AM
Thank you for ignoring the verses I posted
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 13, 2010, 09:04:31 AM
I find it very difficult to find any "context" at all in which Romans 14 is meant to be taken to mean, "I have the authority to publicly rebuke a brother because how he chose to express himself personally offends me."

I PM'd my request first, to which he replied how he did. His refusal led to the "public rebuke" that you refer to.

And while I agree with this sentiment, I do need to say that the amount of harm done by JSB's expression strikes me as rather small compared to the possible damage caused by a mature Christian brother misinterpreting Scripture (Romans 14) to bolster his side in a petty squabble.

I agree.  I grew up under this kind of legalism and the end result was the it gave me a false view of who God is, influencing me to choose years of rebellion before I saw my deep need for Him (and who He truely is).

All that to say this kind of abuse of scripture to support ones own petty preferences really torks me off.  Am I allowed to say that?

I think that Christians who choose to live without accountability are far more dangerous to the faith than one Christian asking another to watch his language. I find it much more "petty" to refuse to not use a word that fellow Christians have been trained their whole life to view as vulgar.

With that said, the question would be why "mature" Christians would drag a simple request this far? You speak of legalism. I was not questioning JSB's faith or calling him a sinner. I asked him to "watch his language." I do the same thing in public school every single day. Perhaps you are suggesting that I am being a false witness and should be hung, drawn, and quartered? For an adult to ask a young person to watch his language is part of normal society. Now when you bring in a Christian context, language should be even more in check.

If mature Christians are not supposed to guide young Christians in everyday behavior, then we are neglecting our responsibility. I refuse to believe that ignoring inappropriate behavior is God's Plan.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 13, 2010, 09:16:16 AM
I find it much more "petty" to refuse to not use a word that fellow Christians have been trained their whole life to view as vulgar.

this is completely subjective. if it were 'vulgar', im pretty sure it would be censored on the boards.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on July 13, 2010, 09:17:33 AM
"crap" may not be technically cursing, but they are crude words that some people find offensive.
And on that note, I'm fairly certain a certain naughty swear word is filtered to "crap" on the boards. Curse you, Schaef :P!
Most of the swears are censored in fun ways (preview button ftw).

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I do the same thing in public school every single day. Perhaps you are suggesting that I am being a false witness and should be hung, drawn, and quartered?
Depends, are you filled with candy?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 13, 2010, 09:29:02 AM
hahaha, I just read this entire thread. Prof's post was wyn.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 13, 2010, 09:38:29 AM
Thank you for ignoring the verses I posted
I assumed that you posted those verses to YMT considering that I haven't referred to that passage at all during this thread.  As for my thoughts on them, I agree that we shouldn't look down on you (vs 10), but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't encourage you to do the right thing.  You already agreed that when you distress your brother because of your unnecessary actions that you aren't acting in love (vs. 15).  You said that "what you do doesn't really matter" which is a preposterous way to interpret verse 17 taken in context of the entire Bible.  And finally you said that YMT should keep his opinion between himself and God (vs 22), which is also clearly not meant to be universally applied considering all the places in the Bible that it talks about correcting our Christian brothers and sisters.

Now how about if you actually take seriously the verse that I posted.  What do you think about it?  And could you please tell me if you're a Christian or not so I can know whether to apologize to you or not?
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 13, 2010, 09:42:48 AM
but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't encourage you to do the right thing.
this thread is about encouraging for packs, not the right thing.  ;)
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 13, 2010, 09:44:34 AM
there is a point where encouragement becomes harassment. a person needs only be told once to be less ignorant. if they still refuse and they are not breaking a law or forum rule, best they be left to their own devices.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: drb1200 on July 13, 2010, 09:47:38 AM
JSB, if nothing else, you are being completely disrespectful to your elders.

Besides, just because we are Christians doesn't mean we get to do whatever we want to. The bible says not to let filthy language come out of your mouth. What you said might not be considered filthy to you, but we are not to cause our brethren to stumble. I am certain YMT did not stumble because of this, but please keep in mind there are impressionable minds on here.

And FTR, "p" is a worse word than "crap".
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Master KChief on July 13, 2010, 09:49:36 AM
just by your last sentence alone reinforces the subjectivity of this entire thread.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on July 13, 2010, 10:07:07 AM
I think we should drop this now before we break the dam.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 13, 2010, 10:12:22 AM
there is a point where encouragement becomes harassment. a person needs only be told once to be less ignorant. if they still refuse and they are not breaking a law or forum rule, best they be left to their own devices.
I agree with this.  I responded to JSB's last post because I didn't know until then that he wanted me to reply to the verses he listed.  However, if he continues for too long in his refusal to listen to anyone else on this subject, then it will be time for me to simply leave him to his ignorance.
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: YourMathTeacher on July 13, 2010, 10:14:07 AM
...subjectivity .....

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I think we should drop this now before we break the dam.

If keeping the dam is helping build more Uruk Hai, then I say break it!
Title: Re: Will trade packs for encouragement
Post by: The Schaef on July 13, 2010, 10:16:41 AM
Thank you for ignoring the verses I posted

It seems par for the course, since you did something you feel is correct but he feels is wrong, yet you feel the verse "do not let what you consider good to be spoken of as evil" is not relevant to the discussion.  Strange, since that is the entirety of the discussion.

Telling someone to mind their own business is a rather sketchy prospect on a public message board where the entire point is that the entire populace can see what you write and respond to it.  People only know what you tell them, and if it's posted openly there is no expectation that an issue is "personal" or "private".

Deference to brethren is not legalism.  It is an acknowledgment that not everyone shares in the same struggles or indulges in the same liberties.  Life abundant is tempered in setting a good example for others to follow.  To say "I don't care if you don't like what I do, just shut up and deal with it" does not strike me as the correct attitude in response.

An example: the encouragement system is not perfect but it's the best thing we have immediately available with the current version of this software.  Some like it, some do not.  Some have seen fit to argue about it, others to try and game it for purposes not entirely clear to me, and still others prefer simply to sabotage it.  The purpose of this system was never to cause contention among members of the board, yet it seems to be an unavoidable consequence.  Therefore I am shutting it down immediately.  Any issues not related to the now-defunct encouragement system I advise you to take to PMs.
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