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Title: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Bryon on March 21, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
Which is the better Redemption hero?
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Alex_Olijar on March 21, 2011, 06:41:08 PM
This is really tough, but I like Hur.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: SomeKittens on March 21, 2011, 06:43:39 PM
I think Hur's reached the end of his scope.  I've voted for him every round, but Jacob's just too versatile.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 21, 2011, 06:58:12 PM
I might switch my vote to Hur. Jacob is pretty awesome though...
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 21, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
Simeon/Jacob would have been close, but this is no contest in favor of Jacob.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Alex_Olijar on March 21, 2011, 07:16:39 PM
I think Hur's reached the end of his scope.  I've voted for him every round, but Jacob's just too versatile.


He's not actually versatile at all. He plays Genesis enhancement that, other than RTC, should be played in battle, and he bands to Captain. That's about as far as his uses ever go.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: SomeKittens on March 21, 2011, 07:21:15 PM
My most recent booster deck disagrees.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Alex_Olijar on March 21, 2011, 07:23:36 PM
My most recent booster deck disagrees.

Wow, Booster. Why would you even mentioned Booster? If you are voting on booster, we should just have nommed MEn of Judah and given them the win (or Phinehas the win).
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 21, 2011, 07:23:51 PM
Hur is definitely more versatile just because of Gifts. He can go in a speed deck, a green deck, and an A-Bomb deck.

Jacob can go in an FBTN or Genesis deck.

As far as power goes, none of the enhancements Jacob can play are very effective anymore. Banding to Captain is meh, with so many 12FGs running around. He's really easily stopped. I'm switching to Hur.

EDIT: NO MORE SWITCHING VOTES? WHY?
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on March 21, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
I think Hur's reached the end of his scope.  I've voted for him every round, but Jacob's just too versatile.


He's not actually versatile at all. He plays Genesis enhancement that, other than RTC, Obed of Noah, Answer to Prayer to find one of those two, Abes Servant to Ur, should be played in battle, and he bands to Captain. That's about as far as his uses ever go.

Fixed.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 21, 2011, 07:28:45 PM
Abe's Serv to Ur prebattle is meh. Only good when playing an autoblock deck, which have less and less popularity.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 21, 2011, 07:38:56 PM
Jacob goes in FbtN, Genesis, and CTB. That's just as many decks as you listed for Hur, except all three of those decks are still good (old-school Speed is dwarfed by Disciples speed).

RTC is still good pre-block if done before they get Golgotha, after you get Benedictus, or any time they're using Brown (still a popular defense).

OoN is good all the time, and very few decks have more than 3 cards total that can do a thing about it (and all 3 are easy to draw out).

Numerous as the Stars=CBN banding and +1 deck speed.

Abe's Servant is not as good, but makes a handy Ira replacement if you haven't drawn him or have lost him already.

Plus he can band to Captain or any other angel. What's not to love?
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 21, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
Meh. I guess with primarily playing T2 this year, I've seen waay more counters to CtB than most people use in T1. Usually it's KotW, but sometimes Kir is used. Gates and Unknown Nation always work.

Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: The Guardian on March 22, 2011, 12:05:16 AM
Hur got toasted by Nazareth...please Hur/Gifts me when I have Nazareth down, I'll draw just as fast as you do...

Jacob/Captain still wins battles all day long.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Prof Underwood on March 22, 2011, 07:57:01 AM
I don't even know how Hur got this far, but at this point it is obvious that Jacob is better.
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on March 22, 2011, 11:34:58 AM
Justin Alstad rolled me with a Captain band last tournament. Even while I had Holy of Holies up....
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Professoralstad on March 22, 2011, 12:08:48 PM
Well, when you're primary evil battle winner is Balaam's Disobedience, that tends to happen... :P
Title: Re: The Elite Eight - Hur or Jacob
Post by: Master_Chi on March 24, 2011, 09:54:51 AM
Jake for sure.
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