Cactus Game Design Message Boards
Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Unofficial Tournaments => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption March Madness => Topic started by: Bryon on March 13, 2012, 07:02:58 PM
-
Which is the better Redemption hero?
Moses [G Deck]
Samuel [RoA2]
-
Moses, because I feel like hating on Sam. ;D
-
As much I like Moses, Sam is the better hero.
-
Moses, because I feel like hating on Sam. ;D
I get the feeling that'll be common
-
Sam is only the better hero in T2. Moses rescues way more souls than Samuel in T1.
-
Sam is only the better hero in T2. Moses rescues way more souls than Samuel in T1.
Very true, I played a game the other day where I was down 4-0, but pulled Moses. He just sighed as beefcake walked on by for 4 rescues in a row, and I ended up winning.
If that had been the only time, I wouldn't vote for Moses, but he saves my bacon more than you'd think
-
I voted for Samuel for a few reasons. First, there's better FBTN options than Moses these days; while the Aaron/Moses band is potent, Ira and Beneniah both have multiple heroes who can band to them, with some very solid banding chains being formed as a result. On the other hand, Sam also offers some great banding options (he can band to five heroes that are found in a lot of Sam decks off the top of my head), and of course, he's a potential +6 or +9 (or even as much as a +15).
-
I voted for Samuel for a few reasons. First, there's better FBTN options than Moses these days; while the Aaron/Moses band is potent, Ira and Beneniah both have multiple heroes who can band to them, with some very solid banding chains being formed as a result. On the other hand, Sam also offers some great banding options (he can band to five heroes that are found in a lot of Sam decks off the top of my head), and of course, he's a potential +6 or +9 (or even as much as a +15).
If you want to play Red/Purple, sure, but the teal/green variant is much better IMO, and Moses is the driving force behind that.
-
Count my Moses vote as another anti-Sam vote. Don't get me wrong, I like Moses, but I dislike all these Sam decks out there even more.
-
I voted for Samuel for a few reasons. First, there's better FBTN options than Moses these days; while the Aaron/Moses band is potent, Ira and Beneniah both have multiple heroes who can band to them, with some very solid banding chains being formed as a result. On the other hand, Sam also offers some great banding options (he can band to five heroes that are found in a lot of Sam decks off the top of my head), and of course, he's a potential +6 or +9 (or even as much as a +15).
If you want to play Red/Purple, sure, but the teal/green variant is much better IMO, and Moses is the driving force behind that.
There are more variants than Red/Purple and Teal/Green (or Gold). Use your imagination.
-
Like Red/Teal/Green/Gold With FTNB, Ahimilek, and Aaron Moses!
-
I voted for Samuel for a few reasons. First, there's better FBTN options than Moses these days; while the Aaron/Moses band is potent, Ira and Beneniah both have multiple heroes who can band to them, with some very solid banding chains being formed as a result. On the other hand, Sam also offers some great banding options (he can band to five heroes that are found in a lot of Sam decks off the top of my head), and of course, he's a potential +6 or +9 (or even as much as a +15).
If you want to play Red/Purple, sure, but the teal/green variant is much better IMO, and Moses is the driving force behind that.
There are more variants than Red/Purple and Teal/Green (or Gold). Use your imagination.
My Sam deck was a Red/Purple/Teal/Gold (without Ahimilek), and is now a Green/Purple/Teal/Gold. That's a bit of creativity.
-
My Sam\protect deck (don't ask) has Green\Silver\Red\Gold\Purple\Blue\Pale Green (only half of the card though ;D).
-
My Sam deck is Purple/Tangerine/Disco/Monkey.
What were we talking about?
-
wow Moses is in the lead!?!?!? :o
I may have to change my vote to make this honest.... (despite how much I despise Sam)
-
My Sam deck is Purple/Tangerine/Disco/Monkey.
A purple monkey is eating a tangerine while at the disco?
Pol always said a monkey with opposable thumbs could play a speed deck, but I think you've gone a bit overboard...
-
I actually like Moses better here.
Samuel is awesome as part of an overall deck. But Moses wins LSs all by himself.
Sam fits in a variety of decks, but so does Moses.
If HHI (common anti-meta card) is turned on, Sam can't even enter battle, but Moses works just fine :)
-
Haters gonna hate.
-
Sticking with classics, tried and proven time and again.
-
wow Moses is in the lead!?!?!? :o
I may have to change my vote to make this honest.... (despite how much I despise Sam)
I did opt to change it, but it doesn't affect that Moses is still winning. ;D
-
Whoever heard of a "Moses deck"?
-
Whoever heard of a "Moses deck"?
I actually made one once. It had stuff like Aaron (Di), and Consider the Lilies, lost Coin, and Moses & Elders to spam Transfig.
-
Whoever heard of a "Moses deck"?
I have. Though most call it "G"
/insert Gangster Moses joke here.
-
Whoever heard of a "Moses deck"?
I have. Though most call it "G"
/insert Gangster Moses joke here.
Just add Gangsta' to his long list of identifiers.
He can also play "Moses Caps an Egyptian" with CBN status.
-
I'm just trying to make it clear that, if Sam should lose this vote, the only spread offenses that people are allowed to complain about are those with Moses in them. ;)
-
I'm just trying to make it clear that, if Sam should lose this vote, the only spread offenses that people are allowed to complain about are those with Moses in them. ;)
I agree. I don't get this community. You whine and moan about how broken Samuel is, and then you don't even vote him to be the best hero in his brigade, let alone in the game. If I hear one more complaint about a Samuel deck after this vote (if Sam loses), I'm going to flip.
-
AUTO decks are broken!
-
Because they run on autopilot?
-
People are just voting against Sam because they don't like him.
Moses is FbtN with a Hero that can band to him CBI. Quite good.
Sam can chain to FbtN, has CBN banding, good initiative in a great Brigade to have initiative in, the best identifier in the game, searches for someone he can band to in addition to drawing 2, negates Horses, and is more easily tutorable and recurrable than any other card in the game (along with the other Judges). Amazing!
The only way amazing is loosing to quite good is that everyone's playing amazing and haters gonna hate.
-
Because they run on autopilot?
Har har! :)
-
The Fact that Sam is a prophet doesn't help him since he can't use Hidden Treasures, unless you were referring to his Judge identifier, which I don't think you were.
-
The deeper Moses gets into the rounds, the longer it will take to get a Gold/Green version of him. ;)
-
People are just voting against Sam because they don't like him.
Moses is FbtN with a Hero that can band to him CBI. Quite good.
Two. Jacob + Prof Oak.
-
The deeper Moses gets into the rounds, the longer it will take to get a Gold/Green/White version of him. ;)
FTFY
-
The Fact that Sam is a prophet doesn't help him since he can't use Hidden Treasures, unless you were referring to his Judge identifier, which I don't think you were.
I think he was. Judge is definitely the best identifier in the game.
Alternatively, Obadiah's Caves makes Sam's Prophetness somewhat helpful.
-
Plus he can still use Hidden Treasures, he just has to use the discard part of it.
-
This thread is .....
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft2.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQX72WNjht2xJKH6w1lW01Emm2OAqTnyslb9ip8gkYafY3UvsHAxbkenAS9&hash=702aacb1b6c6cfd4bf47dee29d94974105d8308e)
How Moses is winning is beyond me. Samuel is the linchpin of the strongest T1 deck in the game (guess debatable now with the rule changes), and arguable the strongest offense T2. Moses is a key part of the teal/green/gold version of a Samuel deck, but its still that a Samuel deck. Guess there will be no more Sammy complaints in the future. I seriously doubt between T1 and T2 Moses has rescue more souls this year than Samuel.
-
How Moses is winning is beyond me.
I think it makes sense. Samuel is great, and I voted for him in previous rounds. But Moses has been one of the best heroes for a long time, and it seems like even when new cards come out he stays great (ie. fitting into a Sam deck, or any deck with Aaron). Samuel seems great now, but will he be next year? Suzanna was the flavor of the year last year, and this year she went down in the first round. Samuel could be the same way. Only time will tell.
Moses has proved himself year after year. He deserves to win this matchup.