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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Unofficial Tournaments => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption March Madness => Topic started by: Professoralstad on April 11, 2011, 05:16:22 PM
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Vote now!
WINNER: King of Tyrus.
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Seven Wicked Spirits can steal your opponent's orange King of Tyrus, therefore he is better.
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Seven Wicked Spirits can steal your opponent's orange King of Tyrus, therefore he is better.
But then your opponent has control of Seven Wicked Spirits, which is purportedly the best EC in the game. KoT doesn't allow that to happen.
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Problem solved: Don't put other evil characters down, and don't let them win a battle. You can have as many SWS/7WS as you want in your territory though.
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Problem solved: Don't put other evil characters down, and don't let them win a battle. You can have as many SWS/7WS as you want in your territory though.
Too risky for me. I'll stick with KoT, who still isn't that good.
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SWS has legit combo potential. KOT is boring.
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SWS has legit combo potential. KOT is boring.
BTNB is boring?
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KoT is extremely boring.
"Um, yeah, I have really big numbers that you probably can't beat..."
"Oh...that's...great..."
"Yeah...I guess..."
"..."
"..."
"Hey, did you hear the battle phase is back?!"
"No way! Why am I playing with this defense? I wanna have some fun!"
Pretty much how it'd go down.
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In ProfUnderwood style:
KoT is extremely boring. + 1 7WS
KoT and 7WS are both orange: -3 each
7WS starts with 7. +7 7WS
7WS can play 2PbD and have it mean something. +2 7WS
KoT has never prevented Gabe from making a rescue attempt against me for 3/4 of a T2 game because he didn't want to lose his entire (Assyrian Archer-based banding) defense. +1337 7WS.
Final score 7WS 1344 KoT -3
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SWS is by far superior. KoT is going to win Gold because of no competition, but in Orange KoT is way outclassed by many other demons, including SWS.
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SWS's usefulness depends solely on what your opponent(s) are playing, which makes him far too situational in my book.
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We can't have gold KOT vs orange KOT
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SWS's usefulness depends solely on what your opponent(s) are playing, which makes him far too situational in my book.
If that is what you really believe then you are missing more than half the fun of 7WS. Forget your opponents. 7WS makes every single one of your ECs (except BTN guys like KoT :P) better because he adds "You may interrupt all fortresses..." to whatever SA they already have.
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Another thing: People like the combo Wandering Spirit + Spirit of Temptation + Gomer + KoT. However, replace SoT with SWS, and you end up with all demons in battle and 4 more offense. So HA.
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SWS is nowhere near dependent on your opponent's EC's. I use him in every Brown defense I ever make so that Reheboam doesn't need to worry about WoP.
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I predicted KoT to win, but I proud to say that this is a close vote. GO SWS!!!!!!!
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Excluding booster and teams, I haven't built a deck without SWS since COMBO COMBO COMBO.
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My apologies, I was under the mistaken impression that SWS only exchanged for someone else's EC.
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...so you'll switch your vote? :)
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My apologies, I was under the mistaken impression that SWS only exchanged for someone else's EC.
If you play any ECs that could mess with opponent's characters (banding/discarding/side-battling/etc.) you should add 7WS to your deck. It will make your defense so much more fun.
...so you'll switch your vote? :)
He will once he takes my advice above. ;)
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7WS is also nice if your using Judges and you opponent has someone either too weak or protected
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It's funny how only two KoT supporters have posted. And one of those was under the misunderstanding that SWS was awful. I think a lot of people would change their vote if they posted their reason for voting KoT, and we shut it down pretty quickly. Funny how the best hero and best evil character are going to get knocked out in the second round both times. Sad. I think if we did a private vote, SWS would win.
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It's funny how only two KoT supporters have posted. And one of those was under the misunderstanding that SWS was awful. I think a lot of people would change their vote if they posted their reason for voting KoT, and we shut it down pretty quickly. Funny how the best hero and best evil character are going to get knocked out in the second round both times. Sad. I think if we did a private vote, SWS would win.
He would have at least 3 votes for sure.
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Two of which would come from two of the people who voted for Gen Widow. Underrated characters FTW.
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I voted for Watchful Servant last time. Underrated characters rule.
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It's funny how only two KoT supporters have posted. And one of those was under the misunderstanding that SWS was awful. I think a lot of people would change their vote if they posted their reason for voting KoT, and we shut it down pretty quickly. Funny how the best hero and best evil character are going to get knocked out in the second round both times. Sad. I think if we did a private vote, SWS would win.
And if we were all rational, thinking people, the world would be a lot different.
/Voted for SWS, I like a game that's entertaining.
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I did actually change my vote to SWS, just wanted to confirm that, lol.
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I did actually change my vote to SWS, just wanted to confirm that, lol.
You are a straight up dude, browarod.
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I did actually change my vote to SWS, just wanted to confirm that, lol.
Now if only we could get more people to do that. ::)
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Maybe next year we should limit the voting to only those people who have actually played both cards in the match. :(
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I voted for KOT because I have never lost a battle because of SWS and the combo of Wandering spirit to Spirit of temptation to Gomer to KOT is just too powerful after your opponent has gone through his CBN battle winners.