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Title: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Bryon on March 11, 2011, 11:43:14 PM
Which is the better Redemption Hero?
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Alex_Olijar on March 12, 2011, 12:18:14 AM
Who voted for Zacheus? WS should be unanimous all the way to the Championship.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Isildur on March 12, 2011, 12:21:11 AM
I did (:
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on March 12, 2011, 12:25:56 AM
Zach can search for a card to negate servant's ignore. (Gallows)
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on March 12, 2011, 12:41:17 AM
I like Zacc more. Watchful Servant requires more than 3 turns to win the game.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 12, 2011, 12:46:20 AM
My 153 card deck is 73-17 against Watchful Servant.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Master KChief on March 12, 2011, 07:00:33 AM
zacc is a far better tool box hero.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: TheHobbit13 on March 12, 2011, 11:13:19 AM
I voted for him cuz he's short.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: crustpope on March 12, 2011, 11:44:01 AM
Yeah, fortresses have become important.  Zach can be splashed into many types of decks for his fortess grabbign ability
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Prof Underwood on March 12, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Zach can be splashed into many types of decks for his fortess grabbign ability
Zach is cool for getting fortresses.  But no one builds an entire deck around Zacheus :)
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: crustpope on March 12, 2011, 11:57:14 AM
Zach can be splashed into many types of decks for his fortess grabbign ability
Zach is cool for getting fortresses.  But no one builds an entire deck around Zacheus :)

Pick your argument prof.  Are cards good because they are only good in one deck or are they good becuase of their versatility.  You cant have it both ways
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Prof Underwood on March 12, 2011, 12:06:18 PM
Pick your argument prof.  Are cards good because they are only good in one deck or are they good becuase of their versatility.  You cant have it both ways
Best - a card that is awesome in all kinds of different decks.
Great - a card that is critical in a competitive deck.
Good - a card that is decent in a competitive deck or could be used in several different kinds.
Bad - a card that is only good in one kind of deck that isn't even that good.

Zach falls in the "good" category.  WS falls in the "great" category.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: SomeKittens on March 12, 2011, 03:00:08 PM
Pick your argument prof.  Are cards good because they are only good in one deck or are they good becuase of their versatility.  You cant have it both ways
Best - a card that is awesome in all kinds of different decks.
Great - a card that is critical in a competitive deck.
Good - a card that is decent in a competitive deck or could be used in several different kinds.
Bad - a card that is only good in one kind of deck that isn't even that good.

Zach falls in the "good" category.  WS falls in the "great" category.
I wouldn't say a deck based around ignore is competitive anymore....
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Prof Underwood on March 12, 2011, 03:17:04 PM
I wouldn't say a deck based around ignore is competitive anymore....
That could be a good point.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Isildur on March 12, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
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Bad - a card that is only good in one kind of deck that isn't even that good.
I disagree with your classification of Bad I think this is more of a definition for something right under Good cards. Some cards for example such as Ahab would be considered "Bad" but when you put Ahabs armor on him he becomes playable as a hard to kill 6/16. Imo a Bad card is a card that is not usable under any circumstances such as a 0/2 buckler which has close to no usable play value.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on March 12, 2011, 04:35:07 PM
Ahab's armor doesn't make someone that hard to kill. Protected from two abilities that are probably the least used.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Isildur on March 12, 2011, 05:12:23 PM
what I ment was it makes him usable a 6/16 with the amount of negates brown has he isnt going to be going down without a fight
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: SomeKittens on March 12, 2011, 05:12:53 PM
But one needs initiative to play it in battle, and a 6/6 isn't the greatest for that.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Prof Underwood on March 12, 2011, 05:13:48 PM
a Bad card is a card that is not usable under any circumstances
I would classify that as Terrible, but I don't think there will be any cards that bad in this March Madness voting thing :)

a 0/2 buckler which has close to no usable play value.
OK, now them's fighting words.  You clearly understimate the power of the Buckler side :)
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: TheHobbit13 on March 12, 2011, 05:16:31 PM
But one needs initiative to play it in battle, and a 6/6 isn't the greatest for that.

yeah, 3/6 is the way to go.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Tom Bombadil on March 12, 2011, 08:14:56 PM
Tough one, speed vs ignore, but with more people trying to do speed in their decks, watchful servant is a great way to ignore the speedy people or try to get them to slow down otherwise..
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 13, 2011, 02:41:33 PM
Zaccheus is way better. Being able to search for The Darkness, Haman's Gallows, Wall, Judge's Seat, and TGT, not to mention being able to play Meeting the Messiah, and getting better inish (IMO), is awesome.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Alex_Olijar on March 13, 2011, 02:52:23 PM
Watchful servant wins games. Zach just complements strategies.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: RTSmaniac on March 13, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
Ive won more games with Zacc than WS mostly because he supports my defence and helps me block while my offence takes the win.
Title: Re: Round 1 - Gold - Zaccheus or Watchful Servant
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on March 13, 2011, 11:34:55 PM
I love Zacc. I've never used WS outside of booster.
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