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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Online Gaming => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Gaming on LackeyCCG => Topic started by: EmJayBee83 on March 15, 2014, 08:58:26 AM
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Hey All,
The newly updated version of the Redemption plugin for LackeyCCG can be found at
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dqk9n95kpleizw7/AAA5iwAihZEGsu4M2yaCXIWka (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dqk9n95kpleizw7/AAA5iwAihZEGsu4M2yaCXIWka)
There are three files found here. You will only need one of the three...
Full-1.2.1.zip is 147 MB and contains all of the cards. It is intended for people who have not installed the Redemption plugin previously.
Update-1.2.1.zip is less than 4 MB and contains the configurations for all sets, but only contains images for the Early Church set. It is intended for players who have been using the Redemption plugin previously but have not upgraded to the 1.2 version.
DecksAndPacks-1.2.1.zip is a 500kB patch file that contains only the newly updated decks and packs files. This is for players who previously updated to the 1.2 version of the plugin, and then found that the starter decks did not work and that they could not play booster/sealed.
Each of these zip files contains a README.txt and another zip archive. The README.txt contains installation/upgrade instructions. Please *read* the README.txt before you install/upgrade your system.
Notes: The cards and card abilities are those of the 2nd printing, as I was not sure how cards in the original printing were to be handled. Now that that information is available, I will create a second, smaller update that has just the 1st printing cards which are different from the final versions. I will let you know when that is ready.
During the original 1.2 update, I changed the set names to reflect the actual name of the set, and retired the field RealSet from the configuration file. This was done to clean up the plugin, to make maintenance easier. Unfortunately I did not realize that this would break all existing decks that had been created. This update contains new version of the starter decks, but all previous personal decks will need to be rebuilt, and I apologize for that. If anyone has a deck that they cannot recreate, please figure out a way to send me the original and I will update it for you.
Thanks to mathman1550 for updating the starter decks (and providing some new ones). It would have taken considerably longer to get this out, had I needed to do the work myself.
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Previously in 1.2
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This is the update to support the second printing of phase 1 of the Early Church release. In this upgrade changes were made to the names of some of the existing cards that were reprinted in The Early Church. So, for example, The Apostles version of "Blinding Light" became "Blinding Light (Ap)." This was done to keep the naming uniform with what had gone before.
There are some other notable changes:
- The Set name is now the actual set name, and not simply "FirstSet." Related to this, the parameter "Real Set" has been done away with.
- The Artifact, Land of Bondage, and Set Aside zones have been done away with.
- The default card size on the table is now smaller.
- Things have been cleaned up considerably
A major shout out goes to mathman1550 who did the lion's share of the clean up work in the 1.2 release and has implemented a number of other changes.
Lastly (but not leastly ;)) thanks once again to Rob Anderson for providing permission to and support for distributing this.
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Answers to Questions
Q: Does this program work on both Windows and Macs?
A: Yes.
Q: When I click the plugin link, I get the Red Mega logo and that is all. What's up?
A: It appears that Mega has issues with IE (or maybe vice-versa). I have cross loaded it to Google Drive. The link is in the original post.
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Bugs List
- The majority of books/verses are wrong.
- A noticable fraction of cards lack images.
- Some TexP cards are "huge."
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Feature Requests
Reserved...
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Does this program work on both Windows and Macs?
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Does this program work on both Windows and Macs?
Yes. I have it on my Windows PC and Martin has it on his Mac.
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All I want to say is, thank you. Thank you very much for adding Redemption to Lackey! I like it a lot more than RTS. :)
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Sorry I didn't reply to your PM, I haven't had a chance to test it but I'm very much looking forward to it! :D
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when I click the link to mega I get a cloud with a red M in the middle of it and then nothing else happens. Any thoughts?
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when I click the link to mega I get a cloud with a red M in the middle of it and then nothing else happens. Any thoughts?
Your computer/browser must not want to load the page. What browser are you using?
Kirk
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What browser are you using? I just tried downloading and everything works fine for me with Chrome and Firefox, but I get a (seemingly) similar freeze on IE.
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I was using IE I have not made the move to chrome but it's already downloaded I guess it's time lol
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I was using IE I have not made the move to chrome but it's already downloaded I guess it's time lol
:doh:
;)
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I was using IE I have not made the move to chrome but it's already downloaded I guess it's time lol
:doh:
;)
I'm like that old guy who just sticks with what he knows. I always feel like chrome is slow when I use it but perhaps it's a die hard bias lol.
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I can understand that...I used AOL e-mail for longer than I care to admit... :P
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I have cross loaded the plugin to Google Drive. The link is https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ompGFrLGOVQV8yWHZLNFg0ekE/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ompGFrLGOVQV8yWHZLNFg0ekE/edit?usp=sharing). I have checked and it works with IE. Please let me know if you see other issues.
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I may have done something wrong but keep getting this message when I try to the run the application.
The program can’t start because RakNet.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.
I redownloaded all the pieces twice but continue to get the same message.
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I'm having troubles getting the Redemption plugin to work. I extract it into it's own folder in the Plugins folder, and it appears when I search for it, but when I select it the chat shows a "Can't save prefs" message.
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@jbeers285: After you unzip LackeyCCG you should see a file named RakNet.dll in the same folder as the LackeyCCG.exe executable. Do you see that file?
If not, can you go back to Lackey download (this should be named LackeyCCGBetaWin.zip and be found in your Downloads folder unless you chose to save it under a different name or move it somewhere else), and check to see if the zip file contains the RakNet.dll? It should be in the folder named LackeyCCG of the zip file.
@Chris: It sounds like your LackeyCCG installation does not have permissions to write to the preference file.
The preferences should be being saved in the Preferences.txt file located in the LackeyCCG/secure folder. (Secure should be parallel to the plugins folder.) The first thing you can do is bring up the properties for secure and Preferences.txt and check to see if you have write permissions.
Could you also try starting LackeyCCG by right-clicking on the app and then selecting the "Run as administrator" menu option? Does that appear to work?
I found this (http://www.lackeyccg.com/forum/index.php?topic=2082.0) on the LackeyCCG site, so it sounds like I may be on the right track.
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I got it figured out now and was able to load the starter decks. this is awesome I am so pumped about it thanks man. Also how do we connect with other players?
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I've got Lackey up and running if anyone is up for testing with me. Prefer Type 2 but T1 is fine also.
Message me if you're interested!
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One general note--the LackeyCCG tutorials are fairly decent when it comes to learning how LackeyCCG works. By "fairly decent" I mean much better than I can explain in general.
I got it figured out now and was able to load the starter decks. this is awesome I am so pumped about it thanks man. Also how do we connect with other players?
The first thing you want to do is click on the Preferences tab at the top of LackeyCCG, select the Player Profile sub tab, and then give yourself a Player Name (jbeers285, mayhaps?). Then click on the save button on that screen.
Then you can click on the Server tab at the top of LackeyCCG, which will bring you to a page that looks like this.
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnJaftxX.jpg&hash=5c37948ab71d7fee2c8207ae30743d7b5563773d)
Click on the button labeled "Connect to the game matching server!", and that will bring you to the lobby, which looks like this.
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa40bBmK.jpg&hash=48685d958d5082a2840916a6184153098b7137fe)
The lobby shows who is currently logged into the server (do you see me there?), what games are in progress, and gives you (global?) chat capability at the bottom. If there was a person hosting a Redemption game, you would see it in the right hand list box. You could select the game and then do a join.
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Running as admin fixed my problem. Thanks, MJB.
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Yes and thanks for pointing me towards the tutorial.
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I was playing RTSM and what he saw was not what I saw. It was weird.
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I noticed the TxP cards were not showing up for me unless i resized the image.
Some of the books that the cards were from were wrong like alot of TheDeck characters.
Im reloading the Redemption plugin just in case.
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I was playing RTSM and what he saw was not what I saw. It was weird.
Could you explain what you mean?
I noticed the TxP cards were not showing up for me unless i resized the image.
Some of the books that the cards were from were wrong like alot of TheDeck characters.
Im reloading the Redemption plugin just in case.
All TxP cards or just some of them? I just did a quick check and I don't get an image for Jaddua, son of Jonathon.
Didn't get the image where--in the deckbuilder, the game, both?
Crud, I see the bad books. I must have mucked something up in one of my table sorts. This one is going to take a bit of time to fix (as in maybe not til next week or so). Sorry 'bout that folks.
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I was playing RTSM and what he saw was not what I saw. It was weird.
Could you explain what you mean?
I went out with green/teal Aaron and Moses, but he saw green Aaron and Moses and the Elders. After that we realized that we saw none of the same cards. Some were close, like I saw the new cheribim, but he saw the old one.
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I was playing RTSM and what he saw was not what I saw. It was weird.
Could you explain what you mean?
I went out with green/teal Aaron and Moses, but he saw green Aaron and Moses and the Elders. After that we realized that we saw none of the same cards. Some were close, like I saw the new cheribim, but he saw the old one.
Weird. There is a description of something similar on the LackeyCCG boards (http://www.lackeyccg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1284.0). I am guessing one of you have a bad card data file, as all of the above could eb caused by an off by one error.
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I was playing RTSM and what he saw was not what I saw. It was weird.
Could you explain what you mean?
I went out with green/teal Aaron and Moses, but he saw green Aaron and Moses and the Elders. After that we realized that we saw none of the same cards. Some were close, like I saw the new cheribim, but he saw the old one.
Weird. There is a description of something similar on the LackeyCCG boards (http://www.lackeyccg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1284.0). I am guessing one of you have a bad card data file, as all of the above could eb caused by an off by one error.
We both reloaded, and I was able to play someone else fine.
Also is there a reason that some cards do not have pics?
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I was playing RTSM and what he saw was not what I saw. It was weird.
Could you explain what you mean?
I went out with green/teal Aaron and Moses, but he saw green Aaron and Moses and the Elders. After that we realized that we saw none of the same cards. Some were close, like I saw the new cheribim, but he saw the old one.
Weird. There is a description of something similar on the LackeyCCG boards (http://www.lackeyccg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1284.0). I am guessing one of you have a bad card data file, as all of the above could eb caused by an off by one error.
We both reloaded, and I was able to play someone else fine.
RTSManiac will have to get back to me if he sees this happening with other people and the above link from the Lackey site doesn't help.
Also is there a reason that some cards do not have pics?
Yes--those are called bugs. ;) I have added it to the list of things to chase down.
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I am going to make this my official bugs list that I will be updating.
At least half of the TxP cards are huge. Is there any way to make them the size of normal cards?
Also, thank you EmJayBee for this new way to play online. It is awesome!
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I am going to make this my official bugs list that I will be updating.
At least half of the TxP cards are huge. Is there any way to make them the size of normal cards?
Can you provide me a couple of example of "huge" cards and a couple example of "normal-sized" cards? That will help me track things down. It could just be the foils that make them look bigger. ;)
Also, thank you EmJayBee for this new way to play online. It is awesome!
yw
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So far not Decree, Divination, Gomer, Grapes, Hab, Charms, Mayhem, SWJ, Stalks of Flax. Those are the only ones that are not huge.
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The TxP cards that are enlarged have a larger file. When I edited the size of the card to the same size as the normal cards it was fine. Much like when you create an avatar on a forum and if its too large it wont show up.
I played Red and Mitchrobstew and everything was fine except for thier enlarged TxP cards because of thier file size of the cards I'm sure.
Against Nameless I have no idea and we havent played again yet...( I'm usually available after 10 pm est BTW :) )
Alot of the pics of cards with " " in the name have no pic.
Some cards have double pics (in my file anyway) like Pretention with a (TxP) version and a (Tp) version
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The TxP cards that are enlarged have a larger file. When I edited the size of the card to the same size as the normal cards it was fine. Much like when you create an avatar on a forum and if its too large it wont show up.
Yeah--I figured that out. Thanks for looking into it.
I played Red and Mitchrobstew and everything was fine except for thier enlarged TxP cards because of thier file size of the cards I'm sure.
Crud. You played other people and things were fine. Nameless played other people and things were fine. This is not the answer I was hoping for. ****KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!****
Sorry for the outburst. Did you download your copy of the plugin from Mega or from Google? Maybe the two are different (don't know why that would be) and you, Red, and MitchRobStew got one version while Namelese and the people he has played got the other.
Alot of the pics of cards with " " in the name have no pic.
Some cards have double pics (in my file anyway) like Pretention with a (TxP) version and a (Tp) version
Thanks for the information. I really appreciate your willingness to try and figure out why things are not as they should be.
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np- just playing around with the program. kinda fun
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There is no Kings purple King Saul.
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There is no Kings purple King Saul.
The pic is in the file as well as the special ability. It seems that the special ability is linking to the brown brigade Kings pic though.
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Achins Sin pale green version has a wierd quarter pic.
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I'm just now getting around to playing with Lackey, and I can already see how much work must have gone into imputing all the data. Thank you, MJB, for spending so much time on this.
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I would like to try this, but I also want to wait until the download is cleaned up (there is a lot of junk on this computer). How big is the download right now?
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I would like to try this, but I also want to wait until the download is cleaned up (there is a lot of junk on this computer). How big is the download right now?
The original beta download is still the only download available (so 175 MB or so).
I am in the process of putting together a new distribution that should be ready in the next couple of weeks.
Items already fixed:
- Card scripture reference (in the original beta if the reference is right it is a complete luck).
- Over-large TexP images
Items still scheduled to be fixed:
- Missing/incorrect/bad card images.
- Card names with tons of meaningless quotation marks
I also will have a couple of "how are you using Lackey" questions I will post in a separate thread that may cause some changes.
This distribution is also going to be a full bundled distribution and will overwrite the existing files. So it is going to shrink by a few 10's of MB (at most).
Following this, I am planning on working on a release that separates cards by set/expansion. That will provide the foundation for moving forward on implementing Sealed and Booster Draft. This may or may not be a bundled distribution. I believe it will, however, take me a month or so to get it ready.
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Matt, know that all your efforts are truly appreciated brother. Peace and Blessings to you and yours!
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Many thanks for making Redemption available and possible for online playing to whomever is/was involved!
One question: Are there any other Redemption Starter decks also already available for LackeyCCG?
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Any way to edit card details? I'm just now trying to build a deck on this and it's hard to edit because some dominants are "Lambs" and "Reapers" and others are "Dominants". Some souls are "Lost Souls" and some are "LS", etc.
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Any way to edit card details? I'm just now trying to build a deck on this and it's hard to edit because some dominants are "Lambs" and "Reapers" and others are "Dominants". Some souls are "Lost Souls" and some are "LS", etc.
Hey Joey. If you modify the card details you run the very real risk of not having your version of the plugin play nicely with others. In that case, you may see different cards than your opponents or you may not work at all. If you would be willing to get me a list of what the preferred choices would be, I can incorporate it into my version that already has all of the Scripture references correct.
I apologize to all for the delays in getting the updates out. Life just always seems to interfere.
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Hey Matt, thanks a bunch for making this program available! My macbook and I have been lonely for years haha, I'm hoping to test it out soon!
If you're doing an update here's a few ideas I see so far (you may well have addressed some of these already).
*Change all the "Lambs" and "Reapers" to "Dominants" for easier finding/deck building
*Change all the enhancement names to GE and EE (some say EE, some say Evil Enhancement / GE, HERO Enhancement)
*Could we give the Lost Souls parenthetical names? (Female, NT, Revealer, etc.)?
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I downloaded everything to my laptop yesterday and I'm having the "huge" TexP cards bug. I downloaded the plugin off Mega, should I try the other one?
Thanks again for your work on this Matt!
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Sorry, but no. Both sites have the same data. What you can do is open the "huge" cards in an image editing program and resize them.
Actually, I have all the images resized in the updated plugin. Give me a couple of days, and I can upload just the images as a separate download.
Done! See http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/rtsonline-play/lackey-plugin-huge-texp-cards-update/msg527253 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/rtsonline-play/lackey-plugin-huge-texp-cards-update/msg527253) for details.
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An updated version of the Redemption plugin for LackeyCCG has been uploaded. You can download from...
https://mega.co.nz/#!jtwl2AhQ!qsITqB0H0MkAASlHcWS0UbUjwtyOF0ZuJlywSRbGnUw (https://mega.co.nz/#!jtwl2AhQ!qsITqB0H0MkAASlHcWS0UbUjwtyOF0ZuJlywSRbGnUw) -or- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ompGFrLGOVTmswcnF5MVJlNHc/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ompGFrLGOVTmswcnF5MVJlNHc/edit?usp=sharing)
Download the zip file from either of the links above and unzip it into your LackeyCCG/plugins/Redemption folder.
This update addresses the following items:
- Scripture references are mostly correct.
- Huge image problem fixed
- Bad image problems (e.g., Achan's Sin) fixed
- Missing image problems fixed
- Card types now named consistently, per Red Warrior's post above.
- Extra quotation marks removed.
- I also added the E, F, G and H decks in the distro at the request of Reth
If you come across issues, please let me know so I can get it in the next update.
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I have updated the OP.
Please let me know if you have questions/comments/concerns.
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Hey whenever I click the update it gives me an error 404.... should I just install full verison and replace my other plugin?
It gives me an error on both..... im guessing I have to install dropbox? Is that it?
Thanks, KingLeo 8)
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I'm also getting the 404 error when clicking the links in the first post.
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Sorry--I gave the wrong link. I have corrected the link in the first post. Please try again.
Link should be... https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dqk9n95kpleizw7/AAA5iwAihZEGsu4M2yaCXIWka (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dqk9n95kpleizw7/AAA5iwAihZEGsu4M2yaCXIWka)
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After installing from your latest link and also running LackeyCCG updater I cannot load any deck anymore, not even the supplied starters.
Also when I choose a deck there is nothing shown on preview list - not a single card name!
As soon as I revert back to the download which can be provided from here (http://"https://mega.co.nz/#!jtwl2AhQ!qsITqB0H0MkAASlHcWS0UbUjwtyOF0ZuJlywSRbGnUw") everything works normally again but the plugin version does not match with the one from others who are updated. Even if now only copying over the files from the Update-Package of the new plugin version and following all instructions from ReadMe it does not work. Decks cannot be loaded and are even not shown in preview within Deck Editor.
Any idea on that?
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Yes--in reorganizing things, I broke all existing deck lists. This also broke the packs definitions for Booster and Sealed.
I will get a fix out for the starter decks and the packs tomorrow. Personal decks you are going to need to re-create by hand. If you don;t remember what was in them, send the .dek file to me and I can fix it for you.
Sorry :(
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BTW the latest update Full-1.2.zip does not work at all. Just deleted everything, reinstalled LackeyCCG and afterwards directly installed Full-1.2.zip into an empty Redemption folder. At the end the Redemption plugin cannot even be loaded within LackeyCCG anymore. After comparing zip contents I discovered that within Full-1.2.zip there are quite less files then within the previos Redemption.zip (for example entire folder packs is missing or the images folder). Does this lead to the impossibility to even load the Redemption plugin now?
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Reth, I am going to need your help debugging this, because I am unable to replicate your issue.
- I downloaded and installed the latest version of LackeyCCG.
- I downloaded Full-1.2.zip and unzipped its internal Redemption.zip to a new <LackeyCCG>/plugins/Redemption folder.
- I launch Lackey, and manually load the Redemption plugin.
Following this, everything works fine for me. (I can even load the lolcats and chess plugins that ship with the installer.)
Here is my plugin layout
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi820.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz122%2FEmJayBee83%2FLackeyLayout_zps3ace4d41.jpg&hash=7d929d04e31255d51a3703fe2efd98fc86cdf13d)
Yes, there are a lot fewer files, but that was part of the general clean up. Although the images folder is missing (because I intentionally removed it), I do not understand why you do not see a packs folder.
How are you attempting to load the Redemption plugin? What are you seeing when you make this attempt? (Please provide as much detail as you can.) Does your plugin layout differ from the one I show above? If so, how?
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**Double post** (gasp)
I have resolved the broken starter decks and booster/sealed problems and uploaded new files to https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dqk9n95kpleizw7/AAA5iwAihZEGsu4M2yaCXIWka (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dqk9n95kpleizw7/AAA5iwAihZEGsu4M2yaCXIWka). Full details are given in the OP.
Also, I have received a PM from reth that he was able to successfully re-install Lackey and the original Full-1.2.zip file.
Please let me know if you have any questions/comments/concerns.
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Thanks a lot EmJayBee83! Gr8 work!
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Anybody have any luck with using the "paste" function? If so, how did you go about it?
I pasted a deck list into TextEdit, then deleted all the stuff that might throw it off (i.e. if it said (ki) or similar extensions) then deleted the souls since I figured all the nicknames would be off. Still didn't do anything.
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Do not know what you exactly mean here? Do you mean copying and pasting of decks within Lackey?
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Do not know what you exactly mean here? Do you mean copying and pasting of decks within Lackey?
If you've watched the deck building tutorial... or noticed the button on the top right within deck editor... there is function designed to allow you to paste a deck list.
On the surface it sounds as easy as clicking "copy" (thereby putting it on the clipboard) and then using the paste button. But obviously one would need to remove words like "Heroes, Enhancements" from a list to make sure it only contains names of cards. Even then, remove any unnecessary text (i.e. Kings Version, Promo). I did both of these things and had a plain text document filled with card names and Lackey either crashes or does nothing when I click "paste".
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So far I used the Copy&Paste of Lackey successfully in the following way:
- Load a deck
- Press Copy button in the middle of the right part (between deck area above and All Cards/Card Pool below
- Load another deck/Create a new one
- Press Paste button
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Hey Matt,
In a future update, it would be great to add the ability to sort deck by alignment. As it sits, its not easy to know if your T2 deck is legal.
Thanks for all you do!
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Awesome job with the lackey system. :D. Rts had a way you could play yourself to test decks. Can lackey do this as well? If so, how? Thanks.
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Any news on getting new cards on lackey? I know there isn't a list on wiki and usually it comes after that. By the way thank you EmJayBee83 and all those who made lackey available for us. I'm glad to have this program it makes it easier and more fun for me.
Thanks, KingLeo
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I am working on it. Sorry that I cannot be more precise than that.
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thank you for all the hard work EJB