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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => Topic started by: Korunks on September 08, 2011, 09:12:29 AM
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So I keep hearing Samuel decks are currently top decks but he doesn't seem to be that useful, what Am I missing?
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So I keep hearing Samuel decks are currently top decks but he doesn't seem to be that useful, what Am I missing?
Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D3) + Asahelm+ King Saul (with The Throne of David out).
You get to draw 9, search for 1, and draw off of TTOD, as well as play first. You also will have Bravery of David, Samuel's Edict, Reach, and AOCP in the deck, and it'll be totally okay. There's also a multitude of ways to get him out. Personally, I don't think he's broken, although definitely good, but we've known that since before everybody was saying "AHIMILEK IS BROKEN BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS IT IS! BANZORZ! MORE BROKEN THAN UMAD-THAD! ...oh...wait...it's been a month...JOSEPH AND SAMUEL ARE BROKEN! BAN HAMMAH! AHIMILEK IS A N00B COMPARED TO THESE GUYS!"
Pretty soon we'll have people saying Que is broken...
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Personally, I don't think he's broken, although definitely good, but we've known that since before everybody was saying "AHIMILEK IS BROKEN BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS IT IS! BANZORZ! MORE BROKEN THAN UMAD-THAD! ...oh...wait...it's been a month...JOSEPH AND SAMUEL ARE BROKEN! BAN HAMMAH! AHIMILEK IS A N00B COMPARED TO THESE GUYS!"
I think this is a great point. In August, Ahimilek and Isaiah were the flavors of the month. This month Joseph and Samuel are the flavors of the month. Next month it will probably be someone else. This is a natural process of players adjusting to the new cards and seeing how they affect the meta. Enjoy the ride, and see where things solidify after Christmas :)
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Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Prince Jonathan + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D2) + King David (with The Throne of David out).
Actually, you dont need prince jonathan in the band. Ishmaiah can draw 3 off Samuel - Armorbearer - Ishmaiah... he only checks for OT heroes, not WC.
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Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Prince Jonathan + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D2) + King David (with The Throne of David out).
Actually, you dont need prince jonathan in the band. Ishmaiah can draw 3 off Samuel - Armorbearer - Ishmaiah... he only checks for OT heroes, not WC.
I thought something was off there...thanks.
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Ishmiah bands to Asahel who bands to Saul.
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That's nothing. All I need to counter it is *checks math*... six dozen plots.
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Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D3) + King David
im counting a +8 here, not 9. ishmaiah also does not band to king david, and there is a better king to have on the end than both david or saul.
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The ninth comes upon block with The Throne of David.
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if they block. theres a way to get a guaranteed 9th before the ttod, though.
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Band to the king that draws or searches for an OT fortress.
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helpful for getting to ttod in the first place as well. :)
only wish there was a way to have king solomon on the end...
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Yeah, Oak (2) - Samuel (2+1) - Armorbearer -Ishmaiah (3) - Heldai - King Hiram (1) + TToD(1+)
10 cards minimum if they block. Granted, that combo IS a little convoluted, but the initial 4 hero combo is incredibly strong.
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That's nothing. All I need to counter it is *checks math*... six dozen plots.
Use Stalks of Flax, give them Joseph, play Joseph in Prison off of Phillies Chariot and Horses.
And no, I'm not offering this as a legitimate counter.
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but stalks IS a legitimate counter. thanks for the tech.
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Why is no one counting the guy that Samuel adds to battle? He adds a guy, and then can ALSO band.
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we did, you get a + 1 from the search.
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if they block. theres a way to get a guaranteed 9th before the ttod, though.
More can be guaranteed with converted WC EC + WC D2/play next. :)
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Just remember Samuel negates Play abilities, so if he's in battle he negates the play ability on Throne of David (yes you still get a mass draw which is epic)
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Just remember Samuel negates Play abilities, so if he's in battle he negates the play ability on Throne of David (yes you still get a mass draw which is epic)
So, maybe Babel + JIP is a legitimate counter...would Joseph then go to Obadiah's Caves?
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I like how RBD and CWD and CotM all ruin this. But you must take into account that these three cards practically ruin all offenses so....
Carry On.
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i like how captured ark and destruction, which are far more accessible and playable in every deck, destroy all those counters. carry on.
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I like how RBD and CWD and CotM all ruin this. But you must take into account that these three cards practically ruin all offenses so....
Carry On.
These have to get drawn and activated to work...
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I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.
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I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.
Naz is legitimate. Iron Pan can take care of Lampy.
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Naz is the BFG of anti-meta all by itself. I wouldn't be surprised if later on in the year, decks were defined by whether or not they run Naz.
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I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.
Naz is legitimate. Iron Pan can take care of Lampy.
... and so on and so forth.
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I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.
Naz is legitimate. Iron Pan can take care of Lampy.
... and so on and so forth.
As true as that is, you have to do everything preemptively, whereas I can do it instantly before you have a chance to counter back.
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iron pan also stops naz.
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I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.
Naz is legitimate. Iron Pan can take care of Lampy.
... and so on and so forth.
As true as that is, you have to do everything preemptively, whereas I can do it instantly before you have a chance to counter back.
That was the point of my original post in this quote ring of death.
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sorry, I am a little late in getting to this thread.Does the band involve a converted ArmorBearer or is there another card called Armor Bearer?
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sorry, I am a little late in getting to this thread.Does the band involve a converted ArmorBearer or is there another card called Armor Bearer?
There is an Armor Bearer from Warriors who was a green hero that can band to any hero who "fought in an earthly battle".
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ok, that makes a lot more sense. I was like, WHA??
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I thought the same thing. Sometimes, the REG is a wonderful thing.