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This is my first attempt to redesign the Redemption logo.

The current one is iconic and long-lasting for a reason, but there are several problems with it.



First, there is no one logo treatment for it. Every new Redemption product seems to use a different variation of the logo and there's not even a high resolution version used anywhere online.

Secondly, the combination of red and various shades of yellow-ish green is garish and ugly. The new logo would be entirely red-centric, allowing a single focal point (notice how the green R is almost invisible in front of the red tile).

What's the most important part of the Redemption brand? 2 things were clear to me: the color Red (the border on the back of the card as well as the tile behind the R), and the image of the flaming sword. So, I've combined them. I think this new logo works well as a modern representation of the game, a way to attract new players, and it would be highly useful for web and mobile purposes.

I call the logo "the flaming sword."

Card games can never change their logo because you can't retroactively reprint card backs.

Card games can never change their logo because you can't retroactively reprint card backs.

This would only affect casual play. Tournament decks are required to be sleeved, so the backs are not seen anyway.

What's the most important part of the Redemption brand? 2 things were clear to me: the color Red (the border on the back of the card as well as the tile behind the R), and the image of the flaming sword.

The other minor part that I still think makes it iconic is the fact that the R is capital while the rest is lower-case. I personally like that better. Could you do a mock up with that, for comparison sake?

Quote from: Kevinthedude on March 02, 2018, 06:54:00 PM

Card games can never change their logo because you can't retroactively reprint card backs.

Some other TCGs have different language cards that have different backs and are still legal for tournament play as long as sleeves with totally opaque backs are used. (which are the only type of sleeve allowed in many other TCG tournament settings)

Given the currently expressed favor of the status quo I've seen in certain recent threads I doubt we are having something so drastic as different card backs any time soon.

Quick mockup to show the logo on an expansion box.

Quick mockup to show the logo on an expansion box.

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That looks pretty amazing....

Thank you tripleplayNa1.

Is there a reason that the sword is not behind the R in the solo logo, like it is in the longer logo? It almost looks like the sword was supposed to form a second letter. I think it may look better behind the R.

I would guess that's the "icon" variation of the logo, so it's meant to be as compact as possible.
 If the sword was behind the R it would increase the size quite a bit to make it visible with the R in front.

Is there a reason that the sword is not behind the R in the solo logo, like it is in the longer logo? It almost looks like the sword was supposed to form a second letter. I think it may look better behind the R.

Interesting, did anyone else see the sword as a second letter?

I'm not sure why there aren't any high-res images of the original logo around for promotional stuff... maybe there is one we just don't have access to it

original: (from reserve printout sheets, was the largest and cleanest I could find)

SVG:


btw there's also an optical illusion there the bottom logo looks like it's shifted to the right doesn't it

But notice how that logo is different than the one on the 10th anniversary and 4th edition starter decks. It’s like the logo gets remade every expansion release.

Yeah, I noticed the same thing on the 10th anniversary tin.

But notice how that logo is different than the one on the 10th anniversary and 4th edition starter decks. It’s like the logo gets remade every expansion release.

That would be something to ask Rob about.

I dig your redesign man. As long as the cardbacks don't change I think a redesign of the logo is appropriate.

I dig your redesign man. As long as the cardbacks don't change I think a redesign of the logo is appropriate.

I agree. I am not sure *why* Daniel wants to change the cardbacks.

Let me ask this, is there anyone who dislikes my logo or the idea of changing the logo but is refraining from commenting out of politeness? I want all feedback, positive and negative.

The logo looks good. What are your thoughts on "sheathing" the cross on the side of the display box by designing a light sheathe around it? So the sword is out on the logo then in sheathed form it looks like a cross.

Quote from: Daniel on March 04, 2018, 09:08:41 PM

Let me ask this, is there anyone who dislikes my logo or the idea of changing the logo but is refraining from commenting out of politeness? I want all feedback, positive and negative.

I'm not crazy about changing the cardbacks. But that's just me.

He said he didn't intend for it to replace card-backs, just promotional material...

The logo looks good. What are your thoughts on "sheathing" the cross on the side of the display box by designing a light sheathe around it? So the sword is out on the logo then in sheathed form it looks like a cross.

Thanks! That's a great idea, let me see if I can make it look right.

I don't dislike it, but I think I would like it more if the flames were closer in style to the sword on the card backs--that "trailing" flames look as opposed to flames shooting off the side.

However, in general I tend to be someone who likes very gradual change so it would probably hard to sell me 100% on any logo change. 

Yeah, I was a little lazy with the flames. V2 coming up soon.