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why do some of the heros have territory class identifiers?

Because they are territory class and are active in territory.

oh, I see. instead of saying "while in play", they did that?

Kind of.  Making characters TC allows them to be active without entering battle.  "While in play..." still has to be activated in battle.

Has Partners with Demons been errata'd yet?

Quote from: JSB23 on August 11, 2014, 01:39:18 PM

Has Partners with Demons been errata'd yet?

Second post I've seen about this, why does it need an errata?

Probably because of confusion around discarding a card from your own territory. With the current wording, you could think that you could discard a lost soul from your OWN territory.

Demon Behind the Idol waves, "Hi!"

Probably because of confusion around discarding a card from your own territory. With the current wording, you could think that you could discard a lost soul from your OWN territory.

I would go a bit further... With the wording as is, the *only* reason someone would would not think that they could discard a lost soul from your own territory is because they know how broken that would be.

Gabe told me of three:

 • Abandonment is gold/black.
 • Seek and Destroy is black/brown.
 • Coming of the Spirit should read: "Search deck or discard pile for The Holy Spirit and put in play to draw 2. Cannot be negated."

So how does this set stack up with previous sets?

Not playtested very well. I think clay/heretics will end up being the play this year although I'm not entirely sold on clay yet. Perhaps there's something I'm missing here, but chose doesn't seem all that more powerful than any other brigades yet. Maybe phase 2 will change that but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I wish there were more powerful doms or arts in this set, also the ec are weak!

Erm...if you are looking for powerful EC, there are Hellenistic Jews, Emperor Caius Caligula, and Simon the Magician.  If you want great ability EC that won't get used much in T1 added in, there are also Judaizers, The Sanhedrin, Imposters, and Herod Agrippa I.

There are seriously scary EC in this set, even if you are only looking at it from a T1 perspective.  In T2...

Quote from: LukeChips on August 13, 2014, 03:43:19 PM

I wish there were more powerful doms or arts in this set, also the ec are weak!

Erm...if you are looking for powerful EC, there are Hellenistic Jews, Emperor Caius Caligula, and Simon the Magician.  If you want great ability EC that won't get used much in T1 added in, there are also Judaizers, The Sanhedrin, Imposters, and Herod Agrippa I.

There are seriously scary EC in this set, even if you are only looking at it from a T1 perspective.  In T2...

Sanhedrin are amazing?

Clayciples looks really good. Also Widows Tables + Faithful Priest looks pretty shweet.

Sanhedrin is the best card in this set, and it's not even close.

Nicanor's ability works if another decon or widow's table is in play, but widow's table is played to set-aside and is never in play

Good catch guys. We also caught that and fixed it, as well as the infinite loop that's caused by two players controlling Nicanor.

I appreciate the input the community has given on the first phase 1 card release. Rob finalized the list of cards for the second release of phase one. I feel really good about where it's at now. I'll post a complete list of significant changes soon.

I had a thought the other day, has Rob considered doing a "beta phase" where the full image set is released prior to any printing? Maybe give the community 1 or 2 weeks to look over and catch the last few ability changes, identifiers, etc, and then print the end result?

That seems to be somewhat the approach he took this time, with the "beta" being the small print run released at Nationals. While the initial card list for Early Church has been together for some time, the official decision to move forward with it came only a couple months before Nationals causing the phase 1 release to go through testing much faster than usual. Normally, myself and other play testers have time to scrutinize many of the things that slipped through on the "beta" release, but that was not the case this time.