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stefferweffer:
Here's why I said that.  In searching for "Self" in other threads (In Rulings), I found this thread posted by a "tournament host"?

"Does Self become warrior-class if copying a warrior-class hero?


Self
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: * / * • Class: None • Special Ability: Abilities (*/*) match the abilities of one of opponent’s Heroes in play. If that Hero leaves the field of play, abilities become 0/0. • Identifiers: Generic NT Human, (gender, testament, and other identifiers match selected Hero) • Verse: Colossians 3:9"

I assumed he was copying and pasting from some database of cards that said "Generic NT Human".  Sorry for the confusion.

stefferweffer:
And to make sure I use these cards right, I better make sure I understand Self right (and Kingdoms of the World).  I thought Self's ability only activates if he goes into battle.  Is that wrong?  In other words do you have to have a hero to copy to simply put it into play? 

Can you not place an EC like Self directly into Kingdoms of the World from hand?  Regardless of how you place him there, does he have to be a "copy" of one of opponent's heroes?  If that hero dies, and Self is in KOTW, will Self die also because he has become 0/0?

I'm just trying out this Self/KOTW idea I was given to defend against Garden Tomb, and I need to make sure that I am doing it right.  I have not used either card very much at all.

Thanks.

Gabe:
It sounds like your starting to understand how Self works.  It's a rather confusing card.  I think that Self has caused more ruling questions than any other since it was released. ;)

I think a lot of the confusion comes because cards with a */* ability have an explanation of the */* printed over the picture but it's not a special ability.  See also Silly Women and Angel with the Secret Name.

The text on Self is an explanation of it's copy ability and the */* ability.  Self copies the hero one time - immediately when it's put into play.  There is no ability to activate so when Self enters battle so you don't choose a new character to copy.  If the copied Hero leaves play (even if it's set aside) Self will immediately become 0/0 and be discarded (unless it happens during battle), even if Self is in KotW.

stefferweffer:
If the copied hero is captured, are they still "in play" for purposes of Self?

Gabe:
Yes, captured characters are placed in the Land of Bondage (under normal circumstances) which is in play. 

Now you've got me wondering if controlling Self and the hero it copies would cause you to have a duplicate if the hero was unique... hmmm.  I told you Self caused all kinda of ruling questions.  ::)

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