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Title: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 05, 2009, 12:39:18 PM
Possible colours for brigades:
Pink (For good)
Maroon (Either)
Aqua (Evil)
Bronze (Either)
Lavender (Either)
Light Blue (Either)
Dark (Evil)

Possible themes:
Martyrs
Early-church people
Giants
Canaanite

Post your ideas :)
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on September 05, 2009, 12:40:35 PM
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Lime Green
No no no no no.  2 greens is enough.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 05, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
True dat.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Warrior on September 05, 2009, 01:14:27 PM
THe disicples
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 05, 2009, 01:28:39 PM
Possible themes:
Martyrs
Early-church people
As long as they can be found in the Bible, okay, but no more extra-Biblical characters.

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Giants
Um, where were you when they made the Philistines?

THe disicples
Yeah, I agree. We should give them their own brigade.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 05, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
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Giants
Um, where were you when they made the Philistines?
Um, since when are all the giants Philistine?
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Warrior on September 05, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
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Giants
Um, where were you when they made the Philistines?
Um, since when are all the giants Philistine?
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Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Warrior on September 05, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
yummy OP'd idea Assiriyan and Bab. Giants  :maul:
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 05, 2009, 06:14:21 PM
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Giants
Um, where were you when they made the Philistines?
Um, since when are all the giants Philistine?
Would you like to find a few Bible references to other giants good lad?

And Warrior, Huge Egyptian is not a giant; look it up.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: DDiceRC on September 05, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
Please, no more new brigades! Reprint cards and change their brigade colors (e.g., the disciples), but 15 brigades is enough! What with the two-color cards blurring brigade lines already, there should be enough variety available to avoid any new ones. (And the colors are getting lamer and harder to squeeze in a rationale-teal? orange?)
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: xCaLeBx on September 05, 2009, 10:01:41 PM
Amakites (I believe I said that right) we're the 6 fingered Giants that would be a awesome thing right there
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Bap7 on September 05, 2009, 10:17:54 PM
I think they could do 2 more brigades (1 good 1 evil)...... Bronze could be Disciples/Early Church People and Maroon for like a Things of this World or Evil lands (Canaanite, Amakites) type of brigade ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Smokey on September 05, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
Please, no more new brigades! Reprint cards and change their brigade colors (e.g., the disciples), but 15 brigades is enough! What with the two-color cards blurring brigade lines already, there should be enough variety available to avoid any new ones. (And the colors are getting lamer and harder to squeeze in a rationale-teal? orange?)

 +1

The current brigades don't function as well as they could atm, there will need to be a lot of reprints and new cards before Cactus / Rob should think about more brigades imo
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 05, 2009, 11:43:17 PM
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Giants
Um, where were you when they made the Philistines?
Um, since when are all the giants Philistine?
Would you like to find a few Bible references to other giants good lad?
I will give you some verses if you deny the existance of Anak, Rapha, King Og, Sheshai, Talmai, Ahiman, and Arba, good lad.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 06, 2009, 12:19:07 AM
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Giants
Um, where were you when they made the Philistines?
Um, since when are all the giants Philistine?
Would you like to find a few Bible references to other giants good lad?
I will give you some verses if you deny the existance of Anak, Rapha, King Og, Sheshai, Talmai, Ahiman, and Arba, good lad.
Do you honestly believe there are enough Anakims mentioned in the Bible to justify an entire new brigade? Silly boy. :P
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 06, 2009, 07:54:21 AM
I NEVER said new brigade. I said a cool THEME.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 06, 2009, 09:30:27 AM
And I said, there is already an evil giant theme: Philistines. I would not be thrilled to see another, especially since there are too few other giants mentioned in the Bible. You mentioned seven. That is not enough.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 06, 2009, 10:26:43 AM
And I said, there is already an evil giant theme: Philistines. I would not be thrilled to see another, especially since there are too few other giants mentioned in the Bible. You mentioned seven. That is not enough.
A Giant may be a Philistine, but a Philistine is not a Giant. Please perform necessary research before posting all-knowing comments.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 06, 2009, 09:10:27 PM
Five out of the nine (one of which is Delilah, who hardly counts) of the evil Philistines are giants. You have now nitpicked twice.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 06, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
So if those seven Giants that I mentioned were printed, they would be Philistine?!?
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: xCaLeBx on September 06, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
Anaks would be schweet
(A awesome ability kinda/kinda not portraying the 6 fingered thing "This hero may hold two weapons at a time."
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 06, 2009, 11:01:07 PM
So if those seven Giants that I mentioned were printed, they would be Philistine?!?
Oh my gosh, what are you, like 10? Oh yeah...
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Alex_Olijar on September 06, 2009, 11:09:11 PM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 06, 2009, 11:17:44 PM
I thought he was 12.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: xCaLeBx on September 06, 2009, 11:29:37 PM
hes 13 I believe
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 07, 2009, 01:21:16 AM
If we get Martyrs in Red, Apostles in Green, and Deacons in Blue, every Good Brigade will have both an N.T. and O.T. theme (except Silver and Teal for obvious reasons).

For Evil, every Brigade already has two or more themes (except Orange for obvious reasons). Now we just need to add more cards to the current themes, as well as misc. cards (being too themed-obsessed takes away some of the diversity of deckbuilding).
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 07, 2009, 07:18:14 AM
So if those seven Giants that I mentioned were printed, they would be Philistine?!?
Oh my gosh, what are you, like 10? Oh yeah...
o_O

All I'm saying is that if those seven Giants I mentioned were printed, they would have to have a new theme.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 07, 2009, 11:10:26 AM
All I'm saying is that if those seven Giants I mentioned were printed, they would have to have a new theme.
Exactly! That's what I've been saying: There aren't enough giants to make a whole new theme, so let's not print any at all, or if we do, let's splash them around multiple brigades as miscellaneous cards.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 07, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
All I'm saying is that if those seven Giants I mentioned were printed, they would have to have a new theme.
There aren't enough giants to make a whole new theme, so let's not print any at all, or if we do, let's splash them around multiple brigades as miscellaneous cards.
Okay, Rob Anderson.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Red on September 07, 2009, 11:15:34 AM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
Why??!!
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 07, 2009, 11:15:48 AM
The existing giants are already splashed around a lot. The only Brigades that don't have giants are Pale Green and Orange. But I don't see why they couldn't be a mini-theme like Herods. There aren't that many Herods in the Bible either, but as only about 20 at most cards of a certain alignment get into decks anyway there don't need to be a ton.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 07, 2009, 11:19:39 AM
But I think Cactus' ultimate goal for Redemption is to have lots of different choices of cards for every theme, so that not all same-theme offenses/defenses have the same cards. Evil giants would have no future unless they were scattered, which is being avoided now anyway.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: drb1200 on September 07, 2009, 11:24:38 AM
As far as I can see, Cactus has started making themes for everybody in the Bible.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 07, 2009, 11:26:00 AM
Well, yes and no. The two new themes this set were Herods and Magicians. However, that was likely because Pale Green and Gold only had one theme. Now, everything has two so there is no more need on defense.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Warrior on September 08, 2009, 02:12:35 PM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
my account is illegal? :o
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Ironica on September 08, 2009, 04:01:00 PM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
my account is illegal? :o

If you are under the age limit, yep.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Warrior on September 08, 2009, 04:02:42 PM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
my account is illegal? :o

If you are under the age limit, yep.
and what is that?
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Bap7 on September 08, 2009, 04:50:07 PM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
my account is illegal? :o

If you are under the age limit, yep.
and what is that?
13 I believe! correct me if I'm wrong please.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Warrior on September 08, 2009, 04:51:50 PM
He actually is required to be at least 13. If he is under that, his account is techinically illegal.
my account is illegal? :o

If you are under the age limit, yep.
and what is that?
13 I believe! correct me if I'm wrong please.
*Runs ands hides*
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
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Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
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Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
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Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Tsavong Lah on September 08, 2009, 06:51:34 PM
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As long as they can be found in the Bible, okay, but no more extra-Biblical characters.

Why not? People not being mentioned in the Bible does not mean they didn't exist. We've already established a willingness to print "extra"-Biblical characters using Josephus as a source text, and eventually we're going to run out of "Biblical" characters to print.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Bap7 on September 08, 2009, 09:23:03 PM
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As long as they can be found in the Bible, okay, but no more extra-Biblical characters.

Why not? People not being mentioned in the Bible does not mean they didn't exist. We've already established a willingness to print "extra"-Biblical characters using Josephus as a source text, and eventually we're going to run out of "Biblical" characters to print.
We will cross that bridge when it comes won't we ;) It will come eventually but it will prob be a LOOOONG eventually ;D lol!
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Smokey on September 08, 2009, 10:04:20 PM
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As long as they can be found in the Bible, okay, but no more extra-Biblical characters.

Why not? People not being mentioned in the Bible does not mean they didn't exist. We've already established a willingness to print "extra"-Biblical characters using Josephus as a source text, and eventually we're going to run out of "Biblical" characters to print.
We will cross that bridge when it comes won't we ;) It will come eventually but it will prob be a LOOOONG eventually ;D lol!

Or never if we keep reprinting every character considered a prophet as Green / (Insert color here).  :o
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 08, 2009, 10:10:30 PM
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As long as they can be found in the Bible, okay, but no more extra-Biblical characters.

Why not? People not being mentioned in the Bible does not mean they didn't exist. We've already established a willingness to print "extra"-Biblical characters using Josephus as a source text, and eventually we're going to run out of "Biblical" characters to print.
As Bap7 said, that will not be anytime soon. I disagree with the characters with references from Josephus, and even worse, characters like St. Patrick who weren't even alive in Bible times. Redemption is supposed to be a Bible-based card game. There are certainly enough verses in the Bible to make new character and event cards for quite a while, and I don't think we need to go digging through other sources to find more ideas.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 09, 2009, 12:40:19 AM
With the exception of Patric, Soldier of God, and a lot of the Angel Wars business (which is the non-bible bit I have the most problem with), the non-Bible characters are people who had a lot to do with the events that unfold in the Bible, but are just not mentioned specifically by name. I don't have a problem with the Emperors at all. Just, please, no more cartoon imps?
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Master KChief on September 09, 2009, 03:20:45 AM
this game has too many reprints. texp was what, 50% reprints?
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: The Guardian on September 09, 2009, 03:54:28 AM
this game has too many reprints. texp was what, 50% reprints?

And every single one of them was more powerful than the old version, what's wrong with that?  ???
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Master KChief on September 09, 2009, 04:13:11 AM
nothing, if you want the same thing recycled over and over and over...

reprints are ok, but in small doses. keep the game fresh with new ideas to pique interest...not oversaturate it with the same concepts.

Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 09, 2009, 04:53:47 AM
If it were like MTG where they reprint a ton of cards that are basically the same every year, there may be cause for complaint. But the reprinted cards in this set bear no resemblance to the originals, and as such are basically new cards. Most of the time they're not even in the same brigade.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Master KChief on September 10, 2009, 04:20:10 AM
mtg also pushes out 6 expansion between each base set (which contain the reprints). i figure thats completely justified, seeing as how they produced approximately 1500 brand spankin new cards prior to a base set.
Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
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Title: Re: Possible new brigades/Themes
Post by: Gabe on September 10, 2009, 08:37:41 AM
nothing, if you want the same thing recycled over and over and over...

reprints are ok, but in small doses. keep the game fresh with new ideas to pique interest...not oversaturate it with the same concepts.

(Re)Printing a card that previously had no SA, in a new (or same) brigade with an SA and possibly a new class, is creating a new card for game play purposes. 

Are you seriously saying that you'd rather use the original version of Nebuchadnezzar, Asahel or Kir?  Or that the new versions are not that much different than the original?
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