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Title: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 03, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
In the article for Fishing Boat, it was theorized that deck sizes would increase after the release of Disciples.  (I'll assume they meant T1, but hey, discuss T2).  Do you think that T1 will be able to compete in the 100+ deck size?
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Master KChief on August 03, 2010, 11:24:00 AM
not unless it was turtle.

and even then, no.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 03, 2010, 11:35:46 AM
If by compete you win "win a tournament higher than district", no, probably not.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 03, 2010, 01:24:17 PM
I dunno, a 100-card T1 Disciples deck could be pretty speedy. With 2x AoCP and a little searching and anti-dom...

But we will have to wait until the set comes out before we can know. :dunno:
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 03, 2010, 01:45:39 PM
I predict 63 being more viable, but standard will still be 50-56.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on August 03, 2010, 01:48:32 PM
Or just be a man and use Disciples in t2.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 03, 2010, 01:55:28 PM
Or just be a man and use Disciples in t2.
Or just be a man and win the game with only one card. YOUR MIND
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: crustpope on August 03, 2010, 02:23:23 PM
There have been some VERY competitive 100+ card decks used here in Ohio.  Uthminister is leading the way and gathering a small army of converts as he beats them.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 03, 2010, 05:48:03 PM
It'll be interesting to see at Nats
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: robm on August 03, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
I can't wait to open them up and see whats inside!

Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: xCaLeBx on August 03, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
RR where art thou!
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: The M on August 07, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
Or just be a man and use Disciples in t2.
Amen, Brother!
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: TheJaylor on August 07, 2010, 07:36:08 PM
Or just be a man and use Disciples in t2.
Amen, Brother!
yes this is true real men use disciples in t2
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: The M on August 08, 2010, 12:48:35 PM
Or just be a man and use Disciples in t2.
Amen, Brother!
yes this is true real men use disciples in t2
+1
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 08, 2010, 02:46:54 PM
Real men can't be negated.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: drb1200 on August 08, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
Real men can't be negated.
Poor Abijah.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 08, 2010, 03:45:42 PM
There have been some VERY competitive 100+ card decks used here in Ohio.  Uthminister is leading the way and gathering a small army of converts as he beats them.
Nothing against Uthminister, but I've played in tourneys with him for years and never seen him place at any of them.  Granted, placing isn't his goal, and his decks are always unique, and he is really fun as a opponent.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Professoralstad on August 13, 2010, 02:45:41 PM
In the article for Fishing Boat, it was theorized that deck sizes would increase after the release of Disciples.  (I'll assume they meant T1, but hey, discuss T2).  Do you think that T1 will be able to compete in the 100+ deck size?

Will I build a 150 card T1 deck with 12 Legions? Of course. Do I expect it (or any other 100+ card T1 deck) to do well? Not really, no.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 13, 2010, 08:09:08 PM
I played Uth, and we battled to a 5-4 victory for him.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 13, 2010, 11:32:26 PM
I've recently been trying a 100+ deck. The defense I have for it works great most of the time, I just need to find an offense that hits fast and hard to avoid timeouts.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 13, 2010, 11:34:46 PM
I've recently been trying a 100+ deck. The defense I have for it works great most of the time, I just need to find an offense that hits fast and hard to avoid timeouts.
Same.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: disciple_drew on August 15, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
I predict 63 being more viable, but standard will still be 50-56.

 +1 I doubt I'll see much changes, I could be wrong. I've seen much of the same standard within the state of FL.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 15, 2010, 11:41:17 PM
Seeing as it didn't kill speed as much as some hoped it did, I'll bet that decks will stay the same.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 16, 2010, 01:00:15 AM
Well so far my 133 carder has won two games in an hour or less, and lost two due to some seriously messed up draws. I've used this defense in the same size deck for a while, and those draws were just flat out ugly (Ask smokey, both happened against him. His amazing offense draws didn't help either.)

Still, the two relatively fast wins make me happy. It's working so far.  :)
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 16, 2010, 11:40:04 AM
Well so far my 133 carder has won two games in an hour or less, and lost two due to some seriously messed up draws.
Heck, my 56 carder lost twice at nats due to some seriously messed up draws.  I lost a lot elsewhere, but for other reasons.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Smokey on August 16, 2010, 11:43:59 AM
Well so far my 133 carder has won two games in an hour or less, and lost two due to some seriously messed up draws. I've used this defense in the same size deck for a while, and those draws were just flat out ugly (Ask smokey, both happened against him. His amazing offense draws didn't help either.)

Still, the two relatively fast wins make me happy. It's working so far.  :)

From my experience yesteday playing both Lambo and Prof A, I can say that I think smaller (50-63) and larger (70-100+) have an even advantage to win assuming even draws and well built decks, although faster decks still get dominants much quicker and tend to have better draws.  

Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 18, 2010, 09:05:23 PM
though both can suffer from horrid draws.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: uthminister [BR] on August 18, 2010, 10:37:46 PM
There have been some VERY competitive 100+ card decks used here in Ohio.  Uthminister is leading the way and gathering a small army of converts as he beats them.
Nothing against Uthminister, but I've played in tourneys with him for years and never seen him place at any of them.  Granted, placing isn't his goal, and his decks are always unique, and he is really fun as a opponent.

My decks have become more viable and with the new set (Fishing Boat especially) they will continue to get better. The thing that I just can't drag myself away from is having three of every good enhancement in my deck. It's like playing Redemption with the best of Type-1 and Type-2 at the same time. I guess you could say I am having my Redemption cake and eating it too...
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: SomeKittens on August 18, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
I will say, the one game I played against you was the best I had in T1 2P. 
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on August 19, 2010, 12:38:17 AM
I think you will see more 63-70 card decks, but not more than that.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 19, 2010, 12:45:26 AM
Well, while its not flawless, my 100+ deck is performing better than I expected. when it wins, it can pull it off in 30-60 minutes pretty easily.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on August 19, 2010, 12:55:21 AM
60 mins? You don't play 45 min rounds?
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 19, 2010, 01:05:22 AM
I play online exclusively... so time I dont bother too much with a standard time limit. I play just for the fun of the game.
Title: Re: Poll:Disciples increases deck size?
Post by: uthminister [BR] on August 19, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I don't think it was said earlier, but my decks are exclusively 154 cards. Probably the best drawing deck I had with that layout was a crimson/orange defense along with a red offense with a splash of gold. Lots of drawing cards and then since my defense was so beastly (about 2/3 of the deck) I would create sidebattles where my opponents enhancements were negated but mind could not be. That way my defense did all of the heavy lifting for my deck and my offense could walk in with a huge banding chain FTW...
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