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Title: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 04, 2010, 11:33:58 PM
Why does Teal, the brigade for PRIESTS.... have more, and better, discarding battle winners than Red, the WARRIOR brigade?

5 for teal: Trumpet Blast, Trumpet and Sword, Zeal for the Lord, Phineas's Spear, Filling Z's Temple,
4 for red: David's Triumph, Jaels Nail, Trumpet and Sword, and Davids Mighty Men.

While on the flip side, Red has more converts than teal does...

2 for Red: Power of the Cross, Centurions Proclamation.
0 for Teal.

What's up with this?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 05, 2010, 12:01:49 AM
Also, Red has no reliable FbtN, no weapons that Discard (while Teal has one), no good weapons at all for that matter, no support cards (Stronghold doesn't count), and no full FbtN Enhancements.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 05, 2010, 01:11:29 AM
Warrior's spear is good, limited, but good.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 05, 2010, 01:13:25 AM
Trumpet and Sword is just as teal as it is red.....
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 05, 2010, 01:21:47 AM
I know, I listed it on both.

Still, teal's discards are undeniably better than red's. Why?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 05, 2010, 01:22:51 AM
I know, I listed it on both.

Still, teal's discards are undeniably better than red's. Why?
Sheep/bull/bird killing.

What I noticed more was the range of killing for teal. Barring filling ZT ALL of them target TWO or more ecs.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 05, 2010, 01:24:43 AM
Silly silly me. I was thinking what you listed as Trumpet and Sword was Trumpet Blast, and Trumpet Blast was some weird teal card I've never heard of because I'm not very good at the game
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: browarod on October 05, 2010, 02:05:52 PM
Does anyone even use Red Warrior-Class for their ability to hold weapons, or just to be targets for "band to warrior-class" abilities (or specific good abilities on the heroes like the Centurions)? lol.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Smokey on October 05, 2010, 03:28:25 PM
Does anyone even use Red Warrior-Class for their ability to hold weapons, or just to be targets for "band to warrior-class" abilities (or specific good abilities on the heroes like the Centurions)? lol.

What is this "warrior class" you speak of? Is that the thing that lets my ECs hold horses?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: lightningninja on October 05, 2010, 03:43:49 PM
David's Victory?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Master KChief on October 05, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
asahel + davids mighty men is a popular combo that relies on warrior class, both hero and ec.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: browarod on October 05, 2010, 03:54:59 PM
asahel + davids mighty men is a popular combo that relies on warrior class, both hero and ec.
Case in point. :P
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: lightningninja on October 05, 2010, 03:59:36 PM
Centurion's Proclamation?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 05, 2010, 03:59:56 PM
But none of that's got nothing to do with them actually *using* their WC status, just *having* it.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: browarod on October 05, 2010, 04:01:55 PM
But none of that's got nothing to do with them actually *using* their WC status, just *having* it.
That's exactly my point, lol. It seems like WC on the good side has become just another identifier to be checked rather than a usable feature.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 05, 2010, 04:04:37 PM
I have to agree. Seriously, aside from Warriors Spear, or Elezear's Sword if your name is Ring Wraith..... what other weapons are worth using on heroes?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 05, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
Das my Eleazar's Sword >:c.

I use to use that purple discard a w/c enh in my t2....
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 05, 2010, 04:07:19 PM
Ah, i forgot about that one, along with Angels Sword.

so thats 3 (4) weapons worth using. I say heroes should get some worthwhile weapons.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: ChristianSoldier on October 05, 2010, 04:14:34 PM
Namaan's Chariot and horses on a converted Namaan is fairly powerful too
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 05, 2010, 04:15:12 PM
That takes more than simply playing the weapon on a hero. Why are evil weapons so much better than good weapons?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: browarod on October 05, 2010, 04:16:14 PM
Namaan's Chariot and horses on a converted Namaan is fairly powerful too
Thanks for the off-topic post. We're talking about good weapons.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 05, 2010, 04:16:19 PM
Because evil always wins.

Why are good set asides so much better than evil ones?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: browarod on October 05, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
Because evil always wins.

Why are good set asides so much better than evil ones?
Because you don't need your heroes on other people's turns, whereas you do need your ECs. If they made a set aside that you could play at the end of someone else's turn and that finished at the end of your turn, I think that would make EC set-asides awesome.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 05, 2010, 04:18:13 PM
Ah, i forgot about that one, along with Angels Sword.

so thats 3 (4) weapons worth using. I say heroes should get some worthwhile weapons.
Do you include Coat of Mail or Helmet of Brass?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 05, 2010, 04:24:53 PM
Buckler? Buckler?
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 05, 2010, 04:28:14 PM
Angels Sword, Warriors Spear, Helmet of Brass, Coat of Mail.

4, or 5 if you're Rawrlolsauce.

Thats a pretty sad selection of weapons to use.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: crustpope on October 05, 2010, 05:28:18 PM
Also, Red has no reliable FbtN, no weapons that Discard (while Teal has one), no good weapons at all for that matter, no support cards (Stronghold doesn't count), and no full FbtN Enhancements.

All of these are VERY good points and should be addressed.  It is simply sad that red has no Fbtn stuff.
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 05, 2010, 05:29:23 PM
Angels Sword, Warriors Spear, Helmet of Brass, Coat of Mail.

4, or 5 if you're Rawrlolsauce.

Thats a pretty sad selection of weapons to use.
hey, I'm using Eleazar's Sword too!
Title: Re: Odd thing I just noticed...
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 05, 2010, 05:31:13 PM
Also, Red has no reliable FbtN, no weapons that Discard (while Teal has one), no good weapons at all for that matter, no support cards (Stronghold doesn't count), and no full FbtN Enhancements.

All of these are VERY good points and should be addressed.  It is simply sad that red has no Fbtn stuff.

They should just reprint Adino.

8/8 red WC hero. Negate all abilities on characters and enhancements except warrior class. Cannot be negated if Adino is wielding a spear.
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