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Title: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 10, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
I know it's kind of early to be thinking about this, but...does anyone have any info on the next set that's coming out - names, themes, anything?
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on October 10, 2008, 08:20:18 PM
Kind of Early?

Try way way too early.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 10, 2008, 08:22:33 PM
Everyone knows that when someone says "kind of," they mean "really." ::)
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 10, 2008, 10:47:28 PM
New starter set.
You know this for sure?
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: lightningninja on October 10, 2008, 10:57:16 PM
That's what Bryon told me. :o
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 10, 2008, 11:07:21 PM
...How long has it been since they made a booster set? I've kind of been itching for one for the last...two/three years...although tins and starter decks do let me catch up on my collecting. :-\
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: sk on October 11, 2008, 03:15:54 AM
That's what Bryon told me. :o

Bryon also said there was going to be a Veggietales expansion a couple years back...

Since Cactus seems to like the smaller sets/tins in terms of the wacky economy, a starter would fit that concept.  Besides, didn't the last starters release just after Kings?  It's getting about time for new starters.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on October 11, 2008, 07:52:25 AM
1. This needs to me moved to Card Play

2. Its going to be a starter, I heard that at natz
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on October 11, 2008, 07:56:53 AM
3. And its WAAAYYYY too early for info on that. Heck, its been a month since roa came out at natz.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 11, 2008, 08:05:32 AM
1. I was trying to figure out where to put it, and this seemed like the best place. :-\

2. I've already heard that it's a starter.

3. I already know it's too early; I said that in the post.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on October 11, 2008, 08:14:06 AM
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I was trying to figure out where to put it, and this seemed like the best place.

Why? This is the Redemption Market lol
You SELL AND BUY AND TRADE here
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 11, 2008, 08:30:39 AM
We are discussing what will be...sold...eventually....It was, like, ten o'clock at night; I was tired, okay. :-[
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on October 11, 2008, 10:59:46 AM
lol
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheraxC on October 11, 2008, 07:31:45 PM
Since Cactus seems to like the smaller sets/tins in terms of the wacky economy, a starter would fit that concept.  Besides, didn't the last starters release just after Kings?  It's getting about time for new starters.

the last starter was 10th anniversary edition and that was 4 years ago between Angel Wars and Priests

I want a booster set especially as both Kings and Patriarchs are running out of stock
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Sean on October 11, 2008, 08:59:32 PM
Since the front page for Redemption at Cactus Game Design says, "10th Anniversary Collector Tins
Sold out!"  I would bet money that the next release of new cards is going to be a starter set.  Anybody want to take the bet?  $5? $10?

Sean
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 11, 2008, 09:56:03 PM
Hey, if they make a new starter, do you think they might make a new gift set using Nicholas of Antioch? I haven't been able to find that card anywhere...ever.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: MehMan on October 11, 2008, 11:41:01 PM
More sets???????? man i'm just getting used to the others and there making more??? *faints*
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Isildur on October 12, 2008, 12:10:28 AM
Remeber every that Rob said they were PLANNING not MAKING a new starter back when nats was still going on.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 12, 2008, 03:44:21 AM
Remeber every that Rob said they were PLANNING not MAKING a new starter back when nats was still going on.
Each year after nationals play testers are hammering and working on the new set/deck/tins/cheese wedge/companion cube/etc. We get one per year, so there is plenty of adjustment time. Other card games release them every 2-3 months O_o talk about rule changes/no time to adjust.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Bryon on October 12, 2008, 11:25:45 AM
The set this year could be:

a) starters
b) boosters
c) tins
d) nothing
e) something else

I think I can safely say that the Veggie Tales expansion will not be released in 2009.  :)
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 12, 2008, 11:51:57 AM
*Whew*
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 13, 2008, 01:24:56 PM
I've always thought that they should make a magician/sorcerer set...like, at least, a starter deck with magicians as the EC theme, you know.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 13, 2008, 01:57:42 PM
but magicians were spread out culturaly... so it'd be a bunch of diff brigades for a starter.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 13, 2008, 02:23:34 PM
Yeah, but don't they kind of do that anyway? And also, I wish they would go for more of a different strategy in the starter decks, like heroless or something, just to shake it up.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Prof Underwood on October 13, 2008, 03:00:08 PM
I agree that it would be interesting to have a starter set with 2 decks that were very different from each other, rather than just different colors of the same thing.

For instance, one deck could be primarily offensively focused, and the other deck could be primarily defensively focused.  This would still make for a fair match-up against each other, but would also allow a couple of new possibilities for players just beginning.  It would allow people to choose which style they preferred from the time they first start playing the game.  It would also allow a person who bought a starter deck to make a really strong single deck by combining the best of the offense in one deck with the best of the defense in the other :)
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 13, 2008, 03:03:56 PM
Yeah!...Now I really hope they do make a starter deck.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 13, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
I agree that it would be interesting to have a starter set with 2 decks that were very different from each other, rather than just different colors of the same thing.

For instance, one deck could be primarily offensively focused, and the other deck could be primarily defensively focused.  This would still make for a fair match-up against each other, but would also allow a couple of new possibilities for players just beginning.  It would allow people to choose which style they preferred from the time they first start playing the game.  It would also allow a person who bought a starter deck to make a really strong single deck by combining the best of the offense in one deck with the best of the defense in the other :)
I love the idea.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 13, 2008, 03:51:38 PM
another realy cool idea would be a booster with a bunch of enh of david and a ton of diferant davids and/or some  diferant musician's and for def it would be realy cool if they did assyrians and/or a buch of grey enh that capture i need a ton of captures right now N.T for my emps but im still gonna keep the cards that go realy good with my emps... :scratch: i still dont know if i want to do that though cause im thinking conversion.... oh i dont know sorry thinking out loud
You mean cards for your emps like
Deadly snare
Demonic snare
Snare
Hard bondage
sryian victory
?
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Sean on October 14, 2008, 01:38:23 PM
Quote from: the musicain
exactly...... but one question how many N.T evil captures are ther? cause i looked yesterday and i found probaly 5 or 7 of them

Quote from: Rafiki
Look harder.

Sean
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 14, 2008, 04:13:58 PM
Rafiki is s-m-r-t.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Gil Galad Elven King *Generic on October 15, 2008, 04:37:25 PM
how about instead of starter decks have 4 or 6 or maybe 7 THEME decks........
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 15, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Sean on October 15, 2008, 07:09:21 PM
Quote from: Gil Galad Elven King *Generic
how about instead of starter decks have 4 or 6 or maybe 7 THEME decks........
While this would be very cool I do not think it will happen any time in the next several years.  Cactus said that one of the reasons they made RoA 100 cards(promos included) is because they would have been hard pressed to afford a larger set due to how the card printing goes.  However, it was also stated that by making a relatively smaller set now that they would more likely be able to make a larger set in the future.  That said, I would be very surprised if the next set exceeded 100 cards.  That means starter decks are a likely choice since we haven't had new starter in 4 years (counting the 09 season).

Sean
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on October 15, 2008, 07:55:27 PM
Dude, making structure theme decks would be flippin sweet
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 16, 2008, 02:16:50 AM
how about instead of starter decks have 4 or 6 or maybe 7 THEME decks........
It would be cool but cactus doesn't have the funds at least to my knowledge to do 350+ cards for theme decks.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 16, 2008, 07:56:39 AM
Yeah...maybe another year.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: robm on October 16, 2008, 08:47:04 AM

Aren't started decks theme decks anyways? G and H Moses and John decks.

It might be interesting to see a type 2 starter deck. Although that would mean 200 cards between the two decks.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: sk on October 16, 2008, 09:07:58 AM
Or two starters that could somehow be adapted to create a semi-usable Type 2 deck...
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 16, 2008, 10:24:19 AM
That may be cool...but it would be difficult and complicated.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 16, 2008, 03:07:44 PM
yah i mean typ 2 hat would be like  complicated could you imagine and sience a relgular starter is like $20 or $15 than typ 2 starter would be $40 or $30 so i say just stick with the regulars and plus all you have to do is buy two of the same
Uhm a reg starter is 10 bux.....
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 16, 2008, 05:17:26 PM
Yeah, I was just thinking...
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 18, 2008, 07:37:34 PM
Issue... One starter could be made into a t2, though not super effective it could. I like the idea of decks that could be combined to make a semi effective t2.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 18, 2008, 10:13:05 PM
I never said it couldn't. Also they could cost less than 20 which if you wanna play t2 thats not much of an issue.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Chronic Apathy on October 19, 2008, 11:31:06 AM
I wouldn't mind having two starter decks that can be combined for a T2 deck; it'd be a pretty decent idea if it can be pulled off. Other than that though, I wouldn't want to see any major themes or ideas; the whole point of starter decks is for new players to get a bunch of semi-decent cards cheap, making someone like heroless or offensive/defensive heavy would just be disasterous. Take it from someone who - for the first 2 months of playing Redemption - couldn't build a deck worth jack-squat, it's neccesary to have what would be I and J decks as playable right off the bat. Also, I would kill for a Veggie Tales booster pack.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Isildur on October 19, 2008, 05:43:16 PM
But other games have made Two entirely diffrent starters instead of just one. So there could be Type 2 and Type 1 starters made oooh....
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on October 19, 2008, 08:26:17 PM
...I'm understanding very little of any of this conversation.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: JSB23 on October 19, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/293erg6.gif

Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Sean on October 19, 2008, 11:03:01 PM
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http://i32.tinypic.com/293erg6.gif
Awesome.

Sean
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 20, 2008, 01:27:52 AM
That made me laugh in real life.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: The Schaef on October 23, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
You would know, you were the one that put that information there.

Please do not post anything on the Wikipedia page that is not official, confirmed information.  We already have an issue of TPTB questioning whether the game is "notable" enough to include in the wikipedia.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on October 23, 2008, 07:01:06 PM
No, he was talking to me
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Gil Galad Elven King *Generic on November 18, 2008, 04:53:29 PM
Theme decks wouldn't be that much more expensive if they used older cards along with newer cards to come up with the decks.  They could make 100 new cards, 5 decks. 20 new cards per deck, with 30 older cards to fill the decks in and help give them the strategy they need. 
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on November 19, 2008, 02:56:03 PM
Nah, theme decks with all-new cards would be cool you can add your own old cards to it
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 24, 2008, 04:27:43 PM
All-new cards...That'll never happen.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: thestrongangel on November 24, 2008, 04:47:38 PM
Yes it will, not including reprints
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 24, 2008, 05:03:38 PM
That's what I'm saying - reprints.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: mn777saint on January 14, 2009, 07:58:23 PM
I got an idea...
anyone read/see/know about Ted Dekker Graphic Novels about the Circle of Lost Books?
already has great artwork...a great tie in like Angelwars...and it could even bring about another "Mike" & "Gabe" cards...

just a thought


mn777saint
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Ironica on January 15, 2009, 09:46:25 AM
I got an idea...
anyone read/see/know about Ted Dekker Graphic Novels about the Circle of Lost Books?
already has great artwork...a great tie in like Angelwars...and it could even bring about another "Mike" & "Gabe" cards...

just a thought


mn777saint

YEA!!!!! Another Ted Dekker Fan :D
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: michael/michaelssword on January 15, 2009, 12:25:33 PM
I got an idea...
anyone read/see/know about Ted Dekker Graphic Novels about the Circle of Lost Books?
already has great artwork...a great tie in like Angelwars...and it could even bring about another "Mike" & "Gabe" cards...

just a thought


mn777saint
yay another fellow(I read only his horror though Skin,Adam etc.)
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Ironica on January 16, 2009, 09:39:24 PM
I got an idea...
anyone read/see/know about Ted Dekker Graphic Novels about the Circle of Lost Books?
already has great artwork...a great tie in like Angelwars...and it could even bring about another "Mike" & "Gabe" cards...

just a thought


mn777saint
yay another fellow(I read only his horror though Skin,Adam etc.)
I've read:

The Circle Trilogy
Showdown
Saint
Skin
Chosen
Infidel
Adam
Obsession
Three
Blink Of An Eye
House
The Circle Trilogy graphic novels

I believe that's it :P
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Tsavong Lah on January 18, 2009, 10:21:34 PM
Nice. :D

I've read:

The Martyr's Song Trilogy:
     Heaven's Wager
     When Heaven Weeps
     Thunder of Heaven
The Circle Trilogy:
     Black
     Red
     White
Thr3e
Blink
Showdown
Obsession
Blessed Child
A Man Called Blessed
House
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: JSB23 on January 19, 2009, 12:44:38 AM
I've read most of Black, Red and White (having extra time between rounds when your in a book store has it's advantages=)
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: mn777saint on January 22, 2009, 04:04:53 PM
Like I said ...Ted Dekker's Graphic Novels already have some way cool art work, imo...
Glad to see more of his fans...
To bad Frank Peretti doesn't have Graphic Novels of This Present Darkness, or Piercing The Darknes...
That, imo, would be some cool looking Graphic Novels .

Like my thought was contact the artist for the Graphic Novels and it would be another Comic Book tie in like Archangels & AngleWars.

peace
Don
mn777saint

Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on January 22, 2009, 04:16:22 PM
How well did Angel Wars go over though?
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on January 22, 2009, 04:46:07 PM
How well did Angel Wars go over though?

My students loved the Angel Wars videos and cards.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on January 22, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Well, most players I've talked to think it was somewhat of a joke. Jar-Jar Binks almost sued I hear.

The main plroblem I had was all the silver and little else.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Tsavong Lah on January 22, 2009, 07:00:56 PM
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How well did Angel Wars go over though?

I'm pretty sure, however, that a small part of the Warriors expansion's success was because of the art from the Archangels Saga. Those cards currently have the best art in the game. So Cactus just needs to pick a graphic novel that is well drawn if they decide to do that type of thing again.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on January 22, 2009, 07:01:52 PM
First off, I don't know if this has pointed out, but isn't Angel Wars only a video series? Perhaps that is the problem.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: michael/michaelssword on January 22, 2009, 10:18:37 PM
Maybe they'll make a Warriors II expansion  ;D
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: BubbleBoy on January 22, 2009, 10:21:18 PM
Yeah, except with a different name and different cards! :D...Wait....
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on January 22, 2009, 10:44:31 PM
And maybe a new class, err, ability.
Title: Re: New Set?
Post by: mn777saint on January 23, 2009, 12:49:52 PM
Tsavong Lah was right "Warriors expansion's success was because of the art from the Archangels Saga"
(aka Comic Book series) Angel Wars was DVD series.
Still a tie-in to an already popular Art form...which lowers cost to aquire the Art, And boots Sales due to a tie-in to another product...that was only point I was trying to make.

and yes I have All the Archangels Saga Comic Books 1-9 & "The Fall" 1-3
and yes I have All the Angel Wars DVD series.

peace
Don
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