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		Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => Topic started by: Korunks on December 07, 2009, 10:14:32 AM
		
			
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				I am trying to compile a list of the *Must* have commons/uncommons that are valued around .25 on ThreeLionsGaming.  I would like them to either be useful in a civilization or theme, or be useful on their own.  I do not have the vast knowledge of all the good cards from the middle sets because I was not actively playing at the time of Patriarchs-Kings.  I will be updating this list as suggestions come in.  I am mostly doing this for all the new players in my playgroup.  I want to get them going on fun combo's and strategies as cheaply as possible.  
 
 Good Cards
 
 Blue:
 Jubilee
 Sign of the Rainbow
 Covenant of Noah
 Book of Hozai
 Book of Jashar
 Claudia
 Helez
 Mary Magdalene
 Helmet of Brass(K)
 Resurrection(Ps)
 Journey to Egypt
 Ahimaaz
 Military Escort
 Sound the Trumpet
 
 Gold:
 Deborah
 Shammah
 Elisabeth
 Eve
 Elon
 Zaccheus
 Simeon(w)
 A New Creation
 Entertaining Angels
 Highway
 The Act's of Soloman
 Battle Prayer
 Children
 Training in Righteousness
 Raising of the Saint's(Ps)
 I am Healing
 I am Redemption
 Moses(GH)
 
 Silver:
 Arianna
 Seraphim(both)
 Angel's Sword
 Captain's Sword
 Gathering of Angels
 Protection of Angels(ps)
 Swift Beings
 Protection of Jerusalem
 Angel at Jerusalem(Ps)
 Angel in the Path(both)
 The Second Seal(technically a rare but sold at .25)?
 Three Angels
 Gathering of Angels
 Flaming Sword
 
 Red:
 I am Grace
 I am Creator
 Adino(K)
 Buckler(Ps)
 Counsel of Abigail
 Holy Ground
 Jepthah
 Recruiting Officer
 Sibbechai
 United Army
 Passover Preparations
 Best Friends
 Power of the Cross
 Barak
 Jael's Nail
 Jepthah
 
 Green:
 I am Patience
 Benaiah Snatches a Spear
 David's Victory
 New Priestly Duty?
 Visions of Iddo the Seer
 Paladin?
 Edge of the Sword(w)
 Provisions
 Sword of the Lord
 Tears for a Friend(Ps)
 
 
 Purple:
 King's Daughter
 Widow(ok so it's .50 instead of .25 still a good deal)
 Great Faith
 Reach of Desperation
 Unified Kingdom
 
 Teal:
 Burning Incense
 Burnt Offering
 Fellowship Offering
 Inspection
 Jehoida's Strength
 Jordan Interrupted
 Abiathar
 Zadok
 Ezra
 Eliashib
 Ahimaaz
 
 White:
 Elders of Jerusalem(all three version)
 Scarlet Line
 Praises
 Lost Coin Found
 
 Evil Cards
 
 Pale Green:
 Esau, the Hunter
 Women as Snares
 Infectious Disease
 The Rabshakeh attacks
 The Rabshakeh
 Absalom
 Amasa
 Absalom's Soldiers
 Disobedience
 
 Crimson:
 Dream
 Midianite Attack
 Wages of Sin
 Isaac Decieved
 Gomer
 Carried into Exile
 Deceit of Sapphira
 Treachery of Jezebel
 Ishbibenob(W)?
 
 Gray:
 False Priests
 Job's Wife
 Bearing Bad News
 Israel Pays Tribute
 Momentum Change
 Syrian Vicory
 Unsuccessful
 Rain Become Dust
 Barabbas
 Divisions in the Church
 King Pekahiah
 Pharisee's(All 3 versions)
 High Priest Annas
 Balaam's Disobedience
 
 Brown:
 Paul's Girdle
 Retreat
 Scorn of Michal
 Shimei's Malicious Curse
 Gibeonite Trickery
 
 Black:
 Danites Attack
 Carcasses
 King Amon
 Simon the Magician
 Maneeseh
 Foolish Advice
 Political Saavy
 Fallen Warrior
 Sadducees(All 4 versions)
 High Priest Annas
 High Priest Caiaphas
 Simon the Magician
 Worship of Milcom
 
 Yellow:
 Potiphar's Wife
 Egyptian Wise Men
 Jambres
 Jannes
 Potiphera Priest of On
 Lies
 Joseph's Brothers' Scheme
 Moses Kills Egyptian
 Rizpah's Sackcloth
 Sorrow of Mary
 Wonders Forgotten
 
 Orange:
 Deafening Spirit
 Seizing Spirit
 Sinning Hand
 Pride in the Past
 Madness
 
 Multi:
 Sanhedrein
 
 
 Sites:
 Mildewed House
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				Sadduces and Pharasees
			
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				Thanks Dwayne, could you be more specific? Which Sadduces and Pharisees are must have's?
			
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				The evil characters, that band to each other. I will have to look into it a little bit more but will post in one minute. k?
			
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				No Problem, I appreciate the input  :)
			
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				Sadducees:
 4 Different Sadduces (Black)
 High Priest Ananias (Black)
 High Priest Annas (Black or Grey)
 High Priest Caiaphas (Black)
 Sanhedrein (Multi) Not quite sure though if this is only 25 cents though but worht while in the deck
 Captain of the Temple Guard (Black)
 Temple Guard
 High Priest's Maid (Black)
 U & T (Artifact) goes great with them Sadducees
 False Witness (Black EE)
 High Priest Plot (Black EE) Not 25 cents but helps out
 Worship of Milcolm (Black EE) Helps lot with either numbers or inititive
 
 Just a Hireling (Black/Grey EE)
 
 Pharasees (Not quite too familiar with due to lack of play with them)
 3 Pharasees (Grey)
 Proud Pharasee TexP (Grey) I know not 25 cents but must have imo
 The Entrapping Pharasee TexP (Grey) Same as above
 Barabbas (Grey) Not Pharasee I believe but has a good effect
 
 High Priests Palace (Fortress)
 
 Other Good cards too.
 Simon the Magician with Golden Calf
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				Sadducees:
 The 4 different sadducees, Simon the Magician, worship of milcom, annas, caiaphas, and captain of the temple guard are common. Temple Guard is a starter card, and the rest are rare, RoA, or TeP.
 
 Pharisees:
 3 Pharisees and Barrabas are common, rest are rare, RoA, or TeP.
 
 I have composed a card analysis for each color and fortress. I will send it to you when I get back to my apartment...since we're such good friends :P
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				For Red I would personally add Jepthah.  One of the best all around uncommons in the game in my opinion.
			
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				For Red I would personally add Jepthah.  Once of the best all around uncommons in the game in my opinion.
 
 +1
 
 For Silver Gathering of Angels and Three Angels are pretty great.
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				Priestly Crown, Temple Veil for access um...Ehud, Red Dragon. Gread splash
			
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				Priestly Crown, Temple Veil for access um...Ehud, Red Dragon. Gread splash
 
 Did you read the thread? Commons and Uncommons. :P None of those are common or uncommon.
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				Angel's Sword, Helmet of Brass, Jehoiada's Strength, Power of the Cross, Moses Kills Egyptian, Infectious Disease and Sinning Hand are some good enhancements. A lot of the Priests, Kings, and Patriarchs commons in general were very good.
			
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				Priestly Crown, Temple Veil for access um...Ehud, Red Dragon. Gread splash
 
 Did you read the thread? Commons and Uncommons. :P None of those are common or uncommon.
 
 
 True true my bad. don't shoot meh... :police:
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				*shoots dwayne*(opps how'd that happen  ;) ) I really like the crimson commons/uncommons from patriarchs: dream, midianite attack, wages of sin, and issac decieved
			
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				for red i'd add best friends to the list.
			
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				*shoots dwayne*(opps how'd that happen  ;) ) I really like the crimson commons/uncommons from patriarchs: dream, midianite attack, wages of sin, and issac decieved
 
 
 Don't reveal my identity fool. I must maintain this alter ego so nobody knows who I am lol  ;D
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				Hey,
 
 You're going to find very few (if any) useful cards that are being sold for 25 cents.  The cards that are listed at 25 cents are listed so cheep because no one wants them because they aren't any good.  The occasional useful card that is priced at 25 cents is priced that low because the seller has way too many of them, and if the seller has too many of them it's likely other players do as well.  Which means if you find a player in your area that gives away their extra cards they'll likely have the few 25 cent cards that interest you that they would be happy to give to you.
 
 As far as cards being useful in themes, that's highly unlikely in Kings and earlier sets.  Themes and civilizations weren't really implemented until Priests so cards printed before that that work with themes either do so by chance (like Abraham's Servant to Ur) or because a new card was designed to make a few older cards better (like The Garden Tomb).  More likely the old cards that will work best with themes are the ones that help round out the brigade the theme is in.
 
 That being said, I'd start with the women's set which are all commons.  I don't know if the price has gone up since they went out of print, but you used to be able to get a set of womens cards for $20.  At least 80% of the cards in that set are somewhat useful and a good number of them are very useful.
 
 The one other card that comes to mind as a very useful common is Baalam's Disobedience.
 
 Tschow,
 
 Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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				You're going to find very few (if any) useful cards that are being sold for 25 cents. 
 I disagree, I think there are many useful cards that are commons.  Obedience of Noah, Jael's Nail, Reach of Desperation, Burning Incense, ... etc.  I am mostly interested in one's that 3 Lions lists at 25 cents because those are more accessible to my newer players.  Jannes and Jambres are both 25 cent uncommon's that fit in the Egyptian and magician theme.  Just because they are not rare does not make them useless.
 
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				You're going to find very few (if any) useful cards that are being sold for 25 cents. 
 I disagree, I think there are many useful cards that are commons.  Obedience of Noah, Jael's Nail, Reach of Desperation, Burning Incense, ... etc.  I am mostly interested in one's that 3 Lions lists at 25 cents because those are more accessible to my newer players.  Jannes and Jambres are both 25 cent uncommon's that fit in the Egyptian and magician theme.  Just because they are not rare does not make them useless.
 
 
 Amen.
 
 Pagan sacrifices is awesome for deck d/c.
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				Largish update, feel free to comment on the list, did I get some junk up there?  Any thing with a ? is something I am unsure of.  Just let me know!
			
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				Might as well as Falling Away, it's uncommon, just like Jael's nail and mary magdeline, cause it's in the Women's set.
			
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				Might as well as Falling Away, it's uncommon, just like Jael's nail and mary magdeline, cause it's in the Women's set. 
 But it is not available for .25 :)
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				shamhuth and moses.
			
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				Moses added(GH version)  Shamhuth is not a common/uncommon or .25, so it will not be included.
			
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				Priestly Crown, Temple Veil for access um...Ehud, Red Dragon. Gread splash
 
 Did you read the thread? Commons and Uncommons. :P None of those are common or uncommon.
 
 
 Actually, Red Dragon is common in Warriors and is in the G/H starter.
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				Also, weren't the artifacts in starter sets?  And Ehud was in RoA, whose contents are sorta like commons in that there's no rarity.
			
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				The Reason I did not include any FooF or ROA stuff was their cost, techinically they are common but at $2.50 a card, I am looking for something cheap to help new players to get better with our breaking their bank.  It also helps me to know what to buy so When I give cards to people I can make them decent decks, without going broke my self.  :)  I just realized I skipped arts, forts, and the starter decks when I did my REG/card list/3lg crawl.  I will rectify this after Christmas.
			
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				2k horses and idk what esle.
			
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				I saw 2k horses, but it is a 1.00 uncommon, but please keep them coming! :)
			
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				how bout jubilee and sign of the rainbow for blue, esau the hunter and slave trade for pale green (both from e and f decks)
 
 -Nodnarb Dude
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				What about Unknown Nation and Mildewed House (unless I missed those somewhere)?  
			
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				its a preist common not a rare :P
			
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				Apologies, I was thinking Spreading Mildew, not Mildewed House...removing previous post.
			
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				Slave Trade and Unknown Nation are out, more than $0.25.  Addin others.
			
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				why only 25 cents?most kids i know could buy a card that's $1:00 easaliy. Uknown nation should be in.slave trades a starter card for cryin out loud.(Rant)
			
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				I may consider changing the price limit later, I am trying to find the best cards that cost the least.  
			
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				how much does king zed go for?
			
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				$2.00
 
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				nvm. uh how about some of the 1/1 kings?
			
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				are any of the archer commons? And the egyptians from the starters?