Author Topic: Laban? (Read 4689 times)

megamanlan · « **on:** March 30, 2011, 10:12:20 PM »

I am wondering, Can someone explain to me why Laban is a Syrian/Armianian and a Magician?

Also what is the Deffinition of a Magician in Redemption?

Red · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:26:00 PM »

yeah he wasn't a magician but he was syrian.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:37:08 PM »

He was in fact a magician. I don't know the Biblical reference for that.

Josh · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:38:13 PM »

Quote from: Red on March 30, 2011, 10:26:00 PM

yeah he wasn't a magician but he was syrian.

False. He used divination, which is why the promo Laban is gray/pale green.

1. Genesis 30:27
But Laban said to him, “If I have found favor in your eyes, please stay. I have learned by divination that the LORD has blessed me because of you.”

megamanlan · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:55:15 PM »

Why is he a Syrian/Armianian? Where does that come from?

Red · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:27:09 AM »

He still couldn't be a magician based on the hebrew which has multiple meanings. Including to learn by experience.

drb1200 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:57:39 AM »

Quote from: jmhartz on March 30, 2011, 10:38:13 PM

Quote from: Red on March 30, 2011, 10:26:00 PM
yeah he wasn't a magician but he was syrian.
False. He used divination, which is why the promo Laban is gray/pale green.

1. Genesis 30:27
But Laban said to him, “If I have found favor in your eyes, please stay. I have learned by divination that the LORD has blessed me because of you.”

lol. Is that why he is a magician? That's quite a foggy verse for such a judgement.

Red · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:00:40 AM »

it isn't even KJV(A very accurate tranlastion imo)

drb1200 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:06:14 AM »

Quote from: Red on March 31, 2011, 09:00:40 AM

it isn't even JKV(A very accurate tranlastion imo)

JKV? Jing Kames Version>>>>A Igree.

(the redemption cards are kjv)

Red · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:13:50 AM »

If they stop using KJV cause of laban I'd be mad.(Why did I not notice that?)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:18:43 AM »

Quote from: random link

The word "divination" (NIV, NRSV), "experience" (KJV) is nāḥash, "seek and give an omen, practice divination." Divination is the heathen act of gaining understanding about the present or future by means of signs or omens.

Can be found here, under the "Jacob Negotiates with Laban."

Red · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:21:52 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 31, 2011, 09:18:43 AM

Quote from: random link
The word "divination" (NIV, NRSV), "experience" (KJV) is nāḥash, "seek and give an omen, practice divination." Divination is the heathen act of gaining understanding about the present or future by means of signs or omens.

Can be found here, under the "Jacob Negotiates with Laban."

It has more than one meaning. It can literally mean to learn by experience. I trust a Key reference bible more than a website.

megamanlan · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:56:35 PM »

If Laban was Practicing divination then I agree with him being a Magician, but why is he a Syrian/Arminian?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:02:50 PM »

Because he lived in Syria.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:58:29 PM »

Quote from: Red on March 31, 2011, 12:21:52 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 31, 2011, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: random link
The word "divination" (NIV, NRSV), "experience" (KJV) is nāḥash, "seek and give an omen, practice divination." Divination is the heathen act of gaining understanding about the present or future by means of signs or omens.

Can be found here, under the "Jacob Negotiates with Laban."
It has more than one meaning. It can literally mean to learn by experience. I trust a Key reference bible more than a website.

Please don't pull out the translation argument. I prefer ESV over KJV. The main reason Cactus uses KJV over anything else is KJV is free.
Plus, I don't see "experience" really fitting into this context.

Red · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2011, 02:24:28 PM »

I'm no longer going to argue seeing as no one wants to budge ground on the issue. We are both correct so why argue.

megamanlan · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:53:25 PM »

Where does it say he lived there? Because I thought Syria became a country during or after Jews was in captivity in Egypt.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:26:20 PM »

Quote from: Genesis 25:20 (KJV)

And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2011, 01:24:36 AM »

I'd go to Syria to ask, but they're just as safe as Libya.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2011, 01:58:22 AM »

Isn't Syria in France?

megamanlan · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:05:02 AM »

No. Syria is it's own country.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:19:44 AM »

Are you Syrias?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:21:05 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on April 01, 2011, 01:58:22 AM

Isn't Syria in France?

I sure hope not, withdraw abilities are overrated.

CJSports · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2011, 06:56:16 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 31, 2011, 01:02:50 PM

Because he lived in Syria.

Wow I would've never guessed that, I thought Laban lived in Antartica.

Syria is below Turkey and to the left of Iraq on a map.

megamanlan · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2011, 08:16:21 PM »

Professoralstad · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2011, 12:51:53 PM »

Actually, the KJV pretty much clearly states that he was Syrian:

Quote from: Gen. 25:20, KJV

And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.

The fact that the KJV doesn't mention divination directly isn't really too troubling. Redemption often uses extra-Biblical sources to confirm identifiers of certain characters (i.e. Herods are Roman). As long as the sources are historically accurate and don't conflict with the truth of the Bible, they are acceptable. For this situation, we used a different translation of the Bible, which should be even more compelling for a Bible-based card game than extra-biblical sources.

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