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Title: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 03, 2011, 11:47:13 AM
lol I came on this thread thinking you guys were talking about deck protectors... such as sleeves for cards & decks. Although this isn't the topic of discussion, Dragon Shield all the way! lol  :thumbup:
Title: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 12:09:06 PM
lol I came on this thread thinking you guys were talking about deck protectors... such as sleeves for cards & decks. Although this isn't the topic of discussion, Dragon Shield all the way! lol  :thumbup:

They don't last that long though. and way too expensive
Title: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 03, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
lol I came on this thread thinking you guys were talking about deck protectors... such as sleeves for cards & decks. Although this isn't the topic of discussion, Dragon Shield all the way! lol  :thumbup:

They don't last that long though. and way too expensive

Well, I've had some from over a decade ago and they're still lasting me. Yes, they are pricy I can't argue with that. But I enjoy them the best out of the other brands.
Title: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
lol I came on this thread thinking you guys were talking about deck protectors... such as sleeves for cards & decks. Although this isn't the topic of discussion, Dragon Shield all the way! lol  :thumbup:

They don't last that long though. and way too expensive

Well, I've had some from over a decade ago and they're still lasting me. Yes, they are pricy I can't argue with that. But I enjoy them the best out of the other brands.

Mine didn't last a month. I have some sleeves that lasted a year and they were cheaper. idk....i'm not saying cheaper is better.
Title: Deck sleeves
Post by: SomeKittens on February 03, 2011, 12:55:46 PM
I've used both, and I like both.  So far, I haven't had any problems.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on February 03, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
Dragon Shield are worth the money imo. I've had my blue dragon shields for 5+ years and although they show some wear, they're still high quality and only a few aren't usable. Whereas inferior sleeves, such as Player's Choice, won't last a year.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 01:21:36 PM
Dragon Shield are worth the money imo. I've had my blue dragon shields for 5+ years and although they show some wear, they're still high quality and only a few aren't usable. Whereas inferior sleeves, such as Player's Choice, won't last a year.

IDK what was wrong with me then but my shields kept splitting down the side
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: SomeKittens on February 03, 2011, 01:22:05 PM
How do you shuffle?
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 01:23:52 PM
like a deck of cards...minus the bridge. couldn't do that to my cards if you pay me.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: STAMP on February 03, 2011, 01:25:02 PM
Gold Dragon Shields - I won't use anything else now.  The 300 or so sleeves have lasted me for four years.  Before that, Derrick Schafer (3rd 2003 RNRS T2-2) used them.  :)
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Korunks on February 03, 2011, 01:28:22 PM
I use Ultra-pro pretty much anything.  I have seen both Dragon Shields and Ultra-pros rip down the side.  My friend Daniel had 100 Dragonshields and had to switch to Ultra-pro because he had less than 50 left after they all ripped.  That being said I have a set of standard Ultra-pro shield from 12 years ago that are still holding together.  They are scuffed from use but still useable.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 01:29:34 PM
I use Ultra-pro pretty much anything.  I have seen both Dragon Shields and Ultra-pros rip down the side.  My friend Daniel had 100 Dragonshields and had to switch to Ultra-pro because he had less than 50 left after they all ripped.  That being said I have a set of standard Ultra-pro shield from 12 years ago that are still holding together.  They are scuffed from use but still useable.
are you talking about the red ones that you had? I traded him those for some cards because i was just gonna throw them away since i wasn't gonna use them
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Korunks on February 03, 2011, 01:32:46 PM
No I don't think any you guys who aren't at the weekly playgroup have seen them.  They are semi-retired.  I want to just hang onto them but they keep getting pressed into Booster Draft duty.  I have had them since I was 15/16.  They are black standard ultra-pros.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 01:35:22 PM
No I don't think any you guys who aren't at the weekly playgroup have seen them.  They are semi-retired.  I want to just hang onto them but they keep getting pressed into Booster Draft duty.  I have had them since I was 15/16.  They are black standard ultra-pros.

sweet. me likey black sleeves. But i'm gonna debut new sleeves myself. XD only brandon and my peeps have seent them yo xp
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 03, 2011, 01:38:25 PM
Dragon Shield are worth the money imo. I've had my blue dragon shields for 5+ years and although they show some wear, they're still high quality and only a few aren't usable. Whereas inferior sleeves, such as Player's Choice, won't last a year.

IDK what was wrong with me then but my shields kept splitting down the side

I was going to say the same thing, "how are you shuffling?". If you're really hard on your cards when you shuffle you would perhaps need a thicker type of sleeve like dragon shield. But if you shuffle by doing numerous cuts and shifting cards into different sections of each other then perhaps you ought to use ultra-pro or player's choice. They seem to use a thiner material.

I personally have a very hard shuffle. I put a big crease near the top center of my cards so I need a thicker type like dragon shield. it does damage the cards but I'm not concerned about the condition because I enjoy playing a lot and if time comes to trade I'll just have to down shift the value of the card due to the damaged done by shuffling.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: SomeKittens on February 03, 2011, 02:12:06 PM
I always use the tower shuffle.  Fast enough, and keeps my sleeves/cards pristine!
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: STAMP on February 03, 2011, 02:29:36 PM
Regarding shuffling, another reason I like my gold Dragon Shields is that I can do an "intermingling" type shuffle similar to how you would shuffle a deck of playing cards.  I cut my deck in half and then press the two halves together at the sides with hardly any effort.  It's so much faster to shuffle that way than doing stacks, which is very important considering the types of decks I play.  ;)
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Maynid on February 03, 2011, 02:53:35 PM
 +1

I too shuffle this way, and find it quick, efficient, and requiring little effort.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 03, 2011, 03:19:59 PM
I always use the tower shuffle.  Fast enough, and keeps my sleeves/cards pristine!

"tower shuffle"? lol I haven't heard of that. Some people should put together some tutorials or something so that I could perhaps change my method so I have better conditioned cards lol.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: SomeKittens on February 03, 2011, 03:24:37 PM
Deal out the cards into X piles.  Put all the piles together.

X is usually five for me, though I've also seen eight.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 03, 2011, 03:27:03 PM
Deal out the cards into X piles.  Put all the piles together.

X is usually five for me, though I've also seen eight.

Oh, I've seen that before... but that's so time consuming.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 03, 2011, 03:28:13 PM
Deal out the cards into X piles.  Put all the piles together.

X is usually five for me, though I've also seen eight.

I thought i was the only one who did 5 lol xp
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on February 03, 2011, 03:31:59 PM
Tim Maly alternates between 3 or 5 until you time out, or something like that. :-*
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: SomeKittens on February 03, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
I've gotten to be pretty fast.  I do five so I can double check that I've got the right amount of cards in my deck.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Red on February 03, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
I alternate between riffle and pile shuffles due to the fact I love a nice random deck. 5 piles or 8 depending on deck size. I use ultra-pro or legends sleeves  now.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: browarod on February 03, 2011, 05:32:53 PM
I go with one set of 5 piles and one set of 7 piles before a game, and some number of piles based on the how many cards are roughly left in my deck if I need to do a shuffle mid-game.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Ironica on February 03, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
I mainly use Dragon Shield since most my decks are 63.  Also, they come with a box to put my deck in.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 04, 2011, 08:34:40 AM
I mainly use Dragon Shield since most my decks are 63.  Also, they come with a box to put my deck in.

Yeah, amen. I also enjoy them because of the box as well. I forgot to mention that. You're right, they're great to fix type 1 decks that are more large than 60+ cards. However, there isn't much of a solution for type 2 decks.

What do you guys do and use?
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Red on February 04, 2011, 09:07:05 AM
I have multiples of my sleeves. In case I want to get into T2.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: disciple_drew on February 04, 2011, 09:11:43 AM
I have multiples of my sleeves. In case I want to get into T2.

Ok, but what do you do to contain a Type 2 deck. I've seen these ultra pro boxes that can hold about 200 cards. It looks like to regular deck boxes side by side just fused & molded into a box. That's what I'm using to hold my type 2 deck for right now. I don't know of much other containers out there.
Title: Re: Deck sleeves
Post by: Prof Underwood on February 04, 2011, 10:23:03 AM
Ok, but what do you do to contain a Type 2 deck.
Reyzen's deck pouches (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?PHPSESSID=f3e502e17ed1975521ccf23d538e8024&topic=302.msg2609#msg2609) to the rescue :)
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