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Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Red • Ability: 4 / 5 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Return an Evil Character to owner's hand. Protect your warrior class Heroes from capture. Cannot be negated if David is in play. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Canaan, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Samuel 26:6 •

Brainstorm Session
What are some of the crazy things you can do with Ahimelek?

-Wheel within a wheel him on in
-Writ your own King Amaziah and add him to battle

Return a demon to your hand so you can put it beneath your deck with The Bronze Laver gaining you an extra card each turn for you to gates of hell or Wandering Spirit it out by the next turn.

Not really very crazy but useful, but return characters to move around weapons (I think that weapons follow the warrior).

Your opponent attacks you with a Garden Tomb character with Garden Tomb active when you have at exactly 2 characters of the same brigade out, block with one of them and cause a side battle (this works well with King Rehoboam) and return the other character, so that when you go back to the original battle your character is being ignored and thus giving you infinite initiative to wreak untold destruction on your opponent before protecting lost souls from rescue/playing a dominant to stop them.  Note: this can also work by using a choose the rescuer card to give them your garden tomb hero and whatnot.

The most fun chain is Gibeonite Treaty to capture your Canaanite, then use Canaan to give it to your opponent, then try to rescue it but if not, you can use Ahimelek to get it back.

The most fun chain is Gibeonite Treaty to capture your Canaanite, then use Canaan to give it to your opponent, then try to rescue it but if not, you can use Ahimelek to get it back.

He can return evil characters treated as a ls?

Play Gathering of Angels on CoTH. Attack with him band in Samuel search for David to D2 and make Ahimelek CBN then band in Ahimelek.

The point is, their character survived but you win the battle, cbn. Which is majorly good. You're 1/3 to winning.

Quote from: lightningninja on October 05, 2011, 01:24:33 PM

The point is, their character survived but you win the battle, cbn. Which is majorly good. You're 1/3 to winning.

Awww forgot about the CBN if David is in play.

However, I've seen a red deck that doesn't use David because he doesn't want to discard his Uriah.

CBN Bravery of David is worth more than Uriah IMHO.

Red decks aren't good. Ahimilek decks are good. Ahimilek decks without David aren't good.

Here's what you have to weigh
T&S  a discard
David's Triumph a discard
Bravery of David a discard

Is it better to have the benefits of David and a chance at only one use of Uriah
Or is it better to try to keep Uriah to play 2-3 of these

I do use a David in my red Deck.  I also have an Abby to band to him though.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with using both. Uriah takes out an EC with him and he is easy to get back with David's Harp or Chariots of Fire.

@Wraith
What do you not like about red red/purple decks

But why is Samuel/Amaleck so good.  Abigail can draw a lot of cards to.  Not to mention the purple you can through in with King Amazing/Valley of salt Reach AocP and Counsel.

The better (imo) Samuel decks are Red/Purple base.

why I'm really confused right now.

I'm not sure why you'd bother with Red/Purple when Ahimilek/Samuel abuse exists, since those make the deck 100x faster and better. More than likely, his "Red/Purple" is actually an Ahimilek/Samuel. Which really doesn't rely on Red or Purple. It relies on Samuel speed and Ahimilek CBN wins.

More than likely, you're wrong.  There are serious advantages to a red/purple, without Samuel, Nazareth being one. Household Idols being another. And it's almost as fast, it really is.

Ahimelek -- It uses some red, such as Ishmaiah and David, to draw cards and have Ahimelek be cbn. Instead of having lots of red battle winners, it primarily used cards like Battle Cry and Sound the Alarm to use Ahimelek to wni the battles.

Samuel and Ahimelek -- It used the Samuel draw cards, like Angel under the Oak, Samuel banded to Armorbearer to Ishmaiah, and some other cards. Then battle winners include battle cry and Deborah's Directive to band in Ahimelek for cbn battle winning.

That's the basic strategies, deck lists will vary.

Yeah I've been using a red/teal deck since the release of Trumpet and Sword, lol. And although I have Jehoida's Strength and Battle Cry I would not consider it an "Ahimelek" deck by a long shot. If Ahimelek died I wouldn't flinch... I get more torn up when they kill my Phinehas or Centurians.

I do appreciate the deck explanations GREATLY wraith and ninja, I hadn't observed these first hand. Thanks.

Yeah I've been using a red/teal deck since the release of Trumpet and Sword, lol. And although I have Jehoida's Strength and Battle Cry I would not consider it an "Ahimelek" deck by a long shot. If Ahimelek died I wouldn't flinch... I get more torn up when they kill my Phinehas or Centurians.

...you haven't played Ahimilek. I originally just threw him in my Samuel deck for lulz. Hands down best hero in the game.

The biggest advantage of a Red/Purple over a focus on Samuel is that you don't have to worry about Nazareth.

How do you figure? Teal has Benedictus. What does Red/Purple have? Nazareth also only stops the 2-3 Samuel uses. No big deal if that gets shut down.

Abigail gets around Uzzah?  I didn't catch that, nice!  She may find a spot in my deck.

Yeah. You didn't think she was just useful against Burial, did you? She gets around Uzzah, Trembling Demon (even with HoH up), Heretics, Bel's Banquet, Failed Objective, Just a Hireling, DoU, Washing Hands, Stone Throwers, SSS, and maybe more that I'm missing.

Basically, all that in addition to drawing, banding, and getting better initiative than most royalty while not being able to be hit by just one Samaria. Yeah, she's worth a spot in quite a few decks.

Ring Wraith vs Sam Nurge.....

"Hmm.... I think he has Uzzah in his hand, better attack with Sammy after I'm decked out instead of Abby! That way I can use Ahimilek!"
"Hmm.... I think he has Burial in his hand, better attack with Sammy after I'm decked out instead of Abby! That way I can use Ahimilek!"
"Hmm.... I think he can stop Sammy but not Abby, better attack with Sammy after I'm decked out instead of Abby! That way I can use Ahimilek!"

Srs. That lost him the game. So eZ.

Sam Larson, not Sam Nurge.

I'm such a noob.

Ring Wraith vs Sam Nurge.....

I knew that on some level.... Nurge lives in MA right?

How do you figure? Teal has Benedictus. What does Red/Purple have? Nazareth also only stops the 2-3 Samuel uses. No big deal if that gets shut down.

Do they run Benedictus? Even still, that's one turn. It also stops Angel Under the Oak from getting him out faster, and for decks that use Wheel within a wheel to get our Angel under the Oak, it stops their search consistency. It won't mean you shut down their offense, but it's a perk.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on October 06, 2011, 09:14:19 AM

How do you figure? Teal has Benedictus. What does Red/Purple have? Nazareth also only stops the 2-3 Samuel uses. No big deal if that gets shut down.

Do they run Benedictus? Even still, that's one turn. It also stops Angel Under the Oak from getting him out faster, and for decks that use Wheel within a wheel to get our Angel under the Oak, it stops their search consistency. It won't mean you shut down their offense, but it's a perk.

Whoops, definitely meant Angel under the Oak (using Wheel within a Wheel is overkill, IMO). Sammy still works due to:

Angel with a Secret Name.

Sorry.