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Title: Cloud of Witnesses - Set List and Information
Post by: browarod on March 21, 2016, 10:19:10 PM
129 cards

Rarity Key:
-XX ultra rare (3)
-XX rare (36)
-XX common (90)

1 The Second Coming (http://tinyurl.com/hun4wxp)
2 Falling Away (http://tinyurl.com/hal8sgp)
3 Aaron's Staff (http://tinyurl.com/hzgpln5)
4 Letter to the Hebrews (http://tinyurl.com/hj37jyr)
5 Pitch and Gopher Wood (http://tinyurl.com/h6tyaux)
6 Wool Fleece (http://tinyurl.com/z5sp296)
7 Eternal Covenant (http://tinyurl.com/zn4hndy)
8 You Will Remain (http://tinyurl.com/h758x9l)
9 Thorns and Thistles (http://tinyurl.com/jyrycv8)
10 Honey from a Lion (http://tinyurl.com/gshgmgg)
11 Broken Covenant (http://tinyurl.com/gq5nx2r)
12 Cloud of Witnesses (http://tinyurl.com/hs77yof)
13 Coliseum (http://tinyurl.com/jgrqovk)
14 Jericho (http://tinyurl.com/h29aj64)
15 The Throne of Grace (http://tinyurl.com/jpfrwng)
16 Salem (http://tinyurl.com/zury5pj)
17 Lost Soul "Slaves" (http://tinyurl.com/jnqvm64)
18 Lost Soul "Open Hand" (http://tinyurl.com/z5jdx66)
19 Lost Soul "Dull" (http://tinyurl.com/zakkgzt)
20 Lost Soul "Forsaken" (http://tinyurl.com/jjs39wl)
21 Lost Soul "Destruction" (http://tinyurl.com/jasxedf)
22 Lost Soul "Lawless" (http://tinyurl.com/zp98vpf)
23 Joab (http://tinyurl.com/hlvusm8)
24 King Saul (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/24-King-Saul.png)
25 Fire Foxes (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/25-Fire-Foxes.png)
26 King Saul's Spear (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/26-King-Sauls-Spear.png)
27 "Today" (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/27-Today.png)
28 Warning Against Rebellion (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/28-Warning-Against-Rebellion-1.png)
29 Kinsmen's Agreement (http://tinyurl.com/gpuzuko)
30 The Flood (http://tinyurl.com/jzurx3s)
31 Joshua, Son of Nun (http://tinyurl.com/hfa5ct5)
32 Moses (http://tinyurl.com/gr2t955)
33 David, the Shepherd (http://tinyurl.com/zap5k4b)
34 Enoch (http://tinyurl.com/gmr9v9b)
35 Noah (http://tinyurl.com/h6mo3j2)
36 Daniel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/36-Daniel-1.png)
37 Jacob (Israel) (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/37-Jacob-Israel-1.png)
38 David, the Psalmist (http://tinyurl.com/h5hg5yx)
39 Rahab (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/39-Rahab.png)
40 Abel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/40-Abel.png)
41 Melchizedek (http://tinyurl.com/hz29ho6)
42 Samuel (http://tinyurl.com/h6caj3q)
43 Joseph (http://tinyurl.com/gvjqrwc)
44 Sword of the Spirit (http://tinyurl.com/juo4tts)
45 Reverence and Awe (http://tinyurl.com/zcec9nb)
46 Word of Their Testimony (http://tinyurl.com/jl9y368)
47 Faith of Joshua (http://tinyurl.com/hcthg44)
48 Faith of Samson (http://tinyurl.com/juqqhcy)
49 Faith of Jephthah (http://tinyurl.com/hje8vph)
50 Faith of Barak (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/50-Faith-of-Barak.png)
51 Faith of Samuel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Samuel_CoW_pv.jpg)
52 Faith of Rahab (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/52-Faith-of-Rahab.png)
53 Faith of Isaac (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/53-Faith-of-Isaac-2.png)
54 Faith of Moses' Parents (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/54-Faith-of-Moses-Parents.png)
55 Faith of Daniel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/55-Faith-of-Daniel-1.png)
56 Faith of Gideon (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/56-Faith-of-Gideon.png)
57 Faith of Moses (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Moses_CoW_pv.jpg)
58 Faith of Abel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Abel_CoW_pv.jpg)
59 Faith of Sarah (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/59-Faith-of-Sarah.png)
60 Faith of Noah (http://tinyurl.com/zpm9yf9)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on March 21, 2016, 11:41:01 PM
61 Faith of Abraham (http://tinyurl.com/zls95zq)
62 Faith of David (http://tinyurl.com/jkfkdkz)
63 Faith of Enoch (http://tinyurl.com/zsb89f4)
64 Faith of Jacob (http://tinyurl.com/gmzkutm)
65 Faith of Joseph (http://tinyurl.com/gs82nd3)
66 Abraham (http://tinyurl.com/jttdhrn)
67 Shem (http://tinyurl.com/j37l8hz)
68 Sarah (http://tinyurl.com/jupy62a)
69 Japheth (http://tinyurl.com/zkou74m)
70 Isaac (http://tinyurl.com/za2444j)
71 Noah's Wife (http://tinyurl.com/jrrlp6x)
72 Ham (http://tinyurl.com/zuutue6)
73 The Dove Returns (http://tinyurl.com/gv9ld4v)
74 Faith Among Corruption (http://tinyurl.com/j9bzr63)
75 The Faithful Leaders (http://tinyurl.com/zfn8f4a)
76 The Watchful Leaders (http://tinyurl.com/gt687tu)
77 Eternal Inheritance (http://tinyurl.com/zeb6tzt)
78 Entertaining Angels (http://tinyurl.com/hp7tguy)
79 Samson, the Nazirite (http://tinyurl.com/hgsrqya)
80 Jephthah (http://tinyurl.com/hmfdo5t)
81 Gideon (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/81-Gideon-1.png)
82 Sins Forgotten (http://tinyurl.com/gnajtee)
83 Barak (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/83-Barak.png)
84 The Angel of the Winds (http://tinyurl.com/j7qybuv)
85 Dutiful Priest (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/85-Dutiful-Priest.png)
86 Gifts and Offerings (http://tinyurl.com/hs79dpq)
87 Moses' Parents (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/87-Moses-Parents-1.png)
88 Hate Wickedness (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/88-Hate-Wickedness.png)
89 Love Righteousness (http://tinyurl.com/jtdr92q)
90 Nimrod, the Mighty (http://tinyurl.com/j6b9oea)
91 Doeg (http://tinyurl.com/h2nad9p)
92 Medium in Endor (http://tinyurl.com/jrnxfpm)
93 Coliseum Lion (http://tinyurl.com/gpzmzyp)
94 Lions (http://tinyurl.com/ju3jgvd)
95 Every Man's Sword (http://tinyurl.com/hatvwgm)
96 Love of Money (http://tinyurl.com/zm6pyed)
97 Thrown to the Beasts (http://tinyurl.com/h54ot4a)
98 Mimicking Miracles (http://tinyurl.com/zcrdm6y)
99 Foreign Exile (http://tinyurl.com/jy6cyou)
100 Confusion (http://tinyurl.com/hmoxsw8)
101 Paying Taxes (http://tinyurl.com/h9a4rgg)
102 Treasures of War (http://tinyurl.com/zz8ps3v)
103 Sisera's Army (http://tinyurl.com/gsfj9pj)
104 King Achish (http://tinyurl.com/zuyv7rh)
105 Army of Jericho (http://tinyurl.com/juj24be)
106 Sisera's Oppression (http://tinyurl.com/hsyqy7d)
107 Shimei (http://tinyurl.com/jbh9f7l)
108 Michal (http://tinyurl.com/zmytzjo)
109 Give Us a King! (http://tinyurl.com/hhfw85v)
110 Casting Stones (http://tinyurl.com/jaxpfvv)
111 Provoked (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/111-Provoked.png)
112 Bear (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Bear_CoW_pv.jpg)
113 Deceitful Sin (http://tinyurl.com/hbhw6vh)
114 The Murdering Pharaoh (http://tinyurl.com/jslr57z)
115 The Hard-Hearted Pharaoh (http://tinyurl.com/hnct76v)
116 The Deceived Pharaoh (http://tinyurl.com/zwt6qex)
117 No Straw! (http://tinyurl.com/hlkhf4v)
118 Evicted (http://tinyurl.com/zko7gfp)
119 Egyptian Treasures (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Egyptian-Treasures_CoW_pv.jpg)
120 Syrian Mercenaries (http://tinyurl.com/h9oeov6)
121 The Syrian Reinforcements (http://tinyurl.com/jq4wsrl)
122 Soldiers of Zobah (http://tinyurl.com/jjppdz6)
123 Violent Men (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/123-Violent-Men.png)
124 Cain (http://tinyurl.com/jcvw7xo)
125 Corrupt People (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/125-Corrupt-People.png)
126 Wicked People (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/126-Wicked-People.png)
127 Wickedness Abounds (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/127-Wickedness-Abounds-1.png)
128 Cain Murders Abel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Cain_Murders_Abel_CoW_pv.jpg)
129 Continuous Evil (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/129-Continuous-Evil.png)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Isildur on March 22, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
I wish Gideon's 300 said Three Hundred instead of 300... looks a little twonky written with 300... All four cards are fantastic though ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: phoenixcross on March 22, 2016, 12:42:17 PM
I for one am glad that they use numbers instead of words. Its easier for me in every way.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 22, 2016, 12:42:27 PM
I wish Gideon's 300 said Three Hundred instead of 300... looks a little twonky written with 300...

The current way matches up with the movie better.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on March 22, 2016, 02:13:32 PM
I am assuming that they will be released at Nats in Ohio this year?  I haven't seen the Facebook thread yet.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on March 22, 2016, 02:23:03 PM
I wish Gideon's 300 said Three Hundred instead of 300... looks a little twonky written with 300...

The current way matches up with the movie better.  ;)

Just wait until you see the new evil enhancement for Persians, "Blot Out the Sun"  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: phoenixcross on March 22, 2016, 02:51:21 PM
Just wait until you see the new evil enhancement for Persians, "Blot Out the Sun"  :o
And when/where can we see this card that seems to be so epic?
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: everytribe on March 22, 2016, 04:57:33 PM
Just wait until you see the new evil enhancement for Persians, "Blot Out the Sun"  :o

You mean I won't have to tear apart my Persian Decks?
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 22, 2016, 05:37:26 PM
Just wait until you see the new evil enhancement for Persians, "Blot Out the Sun"  :o

Awesome! My wife loves the Prince of Persia movie, so if you can make one of the cards with Jake Gyllenhaal's image, I might be able to convince her to finally start playing Redemption.  :o

You mean I won't have to tear apart my Persian Decks?

I use Persians, too!  :: fist pump ::
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: uthminister [BR] on March 22, 2016, 11:16:48 PM
You guys...they were talking about the supposed animal theme. Wait till you see the Persians (cats) in the new set. You have to kill them 9 times to get rid of them.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on March 22, 2016, 11:27:58 PM
I am assuming that they will be released at Nats in Ohio this year?  I haven't seen the Facebook thread yet.
The set will likely release at Nationals, yes. The promos generally will be available when their level of tournaments happen the season following Nationals (so the Local and District promos should be available for tournaments scheduled after Nationals, the State and Regional promos should be available next Spring).
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on March 22, 2016, 11:52:51 PM
I am assuming that they will be released at Nats in Ohio this year?  I haven't seen the Facebook thread yet.
The set will likely release at Nationals, yes. The promos generally will be available when their level of tournaments happen the season following Nationals (so the Local and District promos should be available for tournaments scheduled after Nationals, the State and Regional promos should be available next Spring).

I'm fairly certain that Rob intends to have all 4 promos available this tournament season. That means if you host/attend a State or Regional a couple months from now you will get these new promos. If you host/attend a Local or District you can obtain these promos if they are the one the host requested.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on March 23, 2016, 12:03:37 AM
Oh snap that's awesome! Makes me want to try and attend a State and/or Regionals this season to get them! haha
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: CactusRob on March 23, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
Gabe is correct.  I want to have these 4 new cards available for the remainder of this season.  I plan to send to the printer next week.  We are still contemplating the wording on Eli and Gideon's 300.  My guess is that I will have the cards available in about 4 weeks.  I will add to the tournament application between now and then.

Part of the reason I preview the cards is to get more eyes on them so that the Redemption community may help us fine tune them.  It's your game too in my eyes.  We appreciate your help.

Lastly, when I do update the tournament application I am planning to add Persecuted Church packs as a prize option.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 23, 2016, 07:39:18 PM
Part of the reason I preview the cards is to get more eyes on them so that the Redemption community may help us fine tune them.  It's your game too in my eyes.  We appreciate your help.

This is why Rob is awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on March 30, 2016, 11:09:55 AM
So I heard a rumor that the new set is going to be over 100 cards. Is anyone else excited that it'll be the 3rd non-starter deck set in a row with more than 100 cards? :D
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on March 30, 2016, 11:21:41 AM
Personally, i'm really excited to see the new defense! I hope we get some support for some of the OT defenses!
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: phoenixcross on March 30, 2016, 12:50:20 PM
I cannot wait to see the new offense. I really want to see some new angel cards. Also a better magician/demons defense will be a huge benefit for me.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on March 30, 2016, 12:55:50 PM
Really? after judean mediums and crooked ways came out you still want more?  :-\ i'm scared if they do come out with more!  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: phoenixcross on March 30, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
Yes I still want more, I am good with magicians. ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on March 30, 2016, 02:14:37 PM
I really want a witch of endor reprint, and have her be able to recur evil characters! either that or a reprint of workers with familiar spirits. Or both!
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on March 30, 2016, 02:16:56 PM
I really want a witch of endor reprint, and have her be able to recur evil characters! either that or a reprint of workers with familiar spirits. Or both

The Judean Mediums = Workers with Familiar Spirits reprint

I realize it's hard to tell now, because the art and name both changed, but the reference is the same.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: phoenixcross on March 30, 2016, 02:42:27 PM
Where can I see "Workers with the Familiar Spirits?"
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on March 30, 2016, 02:55:04 PM
Workers is a 4/4 Pale Green Evil Character from the Prophets set. They do not have a special ability so they really aren't worth adding to any Magician deck.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Isildur on March 30, 2016, 02:57:48 PM
Workers is a 4/4 Pale Green Evil Character from the Prophets set. They do not have a special ability so they really aren't worth adding to any Magician deck.
I did use them in a deck I took to nats one year haha a 4/4 gets initiative far more then you think it would ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on March 30, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Workers is a 4/4 Pale Green Evil Character from the Prophets set. They do not have a special ability so they really aren't worth adding to any Magician deck.
I did use them in a deck I took to nats one year haha a 4/4 gets initiative far more then you think it would ;D

And they can hold Magic Charms! 8)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on March 30, 2016, 03:12:46 PM
I'd suspect that witch of endor will see a reprint soon. Mostly because of the rumored doeg. Doeg makes me think King Saul could get a reprint and possibly witch. But then again under that reasoning King David, joab, abishai, and absolom could see reprints but I'm not gonna get my hopes up for all that. The animal thing however makes me wonder if leviathan is gonna have a reprint, possibly a behemoth card as well?
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: phoenixcross on March 30, 2016, 04:13:30 PM
Workers is a 4/4 Pale Green Evil Character from the Prophets set. They do not have a special ability so they really aren't worth adding to any Magician deck.
I will probably still add multiple to my deck if I get my hands on some. Also, thank you for the information.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on March 30, 2016, 04:19:13 PM
Workers is a 4/4 Pale Green Evil Character from the Prophets set. They do not have a special ability so they really aren't worth adding to any Magician deck.
I did use them in a deck I took to nats one year haha a 4/4 gets initiative far more then you think it would ;D

In most cases you would probably just rather have Chaldeans (3/3) and Astrologers (3/3). However, if you want to make sure you only have one evil brigade in play, I could see using them (along with The Judean Mediums) in order to have some low "initiative" blockers.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jbeers285 on March 30, 2016, 04:21:42 PM
A four defense with forgotten history blocks way more hero's then a 3 does :-)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on March 30, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
Are there any cards that benefit evil characters like WoNL does for no special ability heroes?
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on March 30, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
At the moment no...  ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on March 30, 2016, 04:30:02 PM
Is that a hint at the new cards?

Or are you just being misleading? :-\
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on March 31, 2016, 12:27:02 PM
Is that a hint at the new cards?

Or are you just being misleading? :-\
We'll just have to wait and see. :P

Rest assured, I will keep this thread updated with as much information as I can about the new set as it's revealed!
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 05, 2016, 06:53:38 AM
I am still hoping on some new babs. maybe a couple of the old kings that dont get used? and a fiery furnace card!
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on April 07, 2016, 07:14:05 AM
Maybe with Gideon's 300, Barak will be reprinted red/gold. At least we know that Syrians and Pre Flood Genesis is getting a boost seeing how hints had been dropped.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 12, 2016, 12:34:41 AM
Now that someone has spotted it in last week's Gideon's 300 article I can finally add it to this thread:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flandofredemption.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2FGideon_what.jpg&hash=3abe359e3b2005f397d08865223a7216452a8629)
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on April 13, 2016, 03:10:57 PM
Since the new Esau searches for Edomites can we expect Hadad to be a new card? He is featured in an enhancement but never was printed as an actual character, so there is the logic for my guess.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 13, 2016, 03:20:42 PM
I'm just going to say...this is going to be the best looking set ever! Man, I wish I didn't have to wait until Nationals to get these!  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on April 13, 2016, 03:21:04 PM
Why is esau an edomite? shouldn't he be canaanite? or no identifier? ???
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Redoubter on April 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
Why is esau an edomite? shouldn't he be canaanite? or no identifier? ???

Oh, he's definitely an Edomite...but rather than steal any thunder, I'll let someone explain in a future article ;)

If you want a sneak-peek at why he would be Edomite, start in Genesis 36.
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on April 13, 2016, 09:23:40 PM
Oh. That makes sense. :P I feel stupid now
Title: Re: 2016 Set - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 18, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Lots of previews of the new set debuted on Land of Redemption today. I'll be working to get them all added to this thread, but feel free to check out the LoR article in the meantime for all the goodies!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 19, 2016, 06:42:52 AM
All previews from yesterday's article have been added to the list in the first post of this thread. Cards that only had the small preview image will be filed by number as soon as I confirm what those numbers are, haha.

Stay tuned for even more revealed cards on Land of Redemption this week and next!

EDIT: Cards spoiled in today's White Cloud article have also been added to the first post!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on April 20, 2016, 07:41:05 PM
Would have thought Egyptian Treasures would be an artifact instead of enhancement. I'm hoping for a decent boost to some of the existing OT evil themes in this set ad the last two sets were heavily focusef on NT themes.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 20, 2016, 08:06:58 PM
Would have thought Egyptian Treasures would be and artifact instead of enhancement. I'm hoping for a decent boost to some of the existing OT evil themes in this set ad the last two sets were heavily focusef on NT themes.

Then you'll be excited to find out about some of the evil themes in 2 weeks on Land of Redemption!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 20, 2016, 08:32:19 PM
Would have thought Egyptian Treasures would be and artifact instead of enhancement. I'm hoping for a decent boost to some of the existing OT evil themes in this set ad the last two sets were heavily focusef one NT themes.

Egyptian Treasures is awesome!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 20, 2016, 10:41:03 PM
Gabe's spoil of You Will Remain (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/08-You-Will-Remain.png) has been added to the first post!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 21, 2016, 09:00:38 AM
I think it will be safe to assum that there will be a new David's Harp, considering the effect of the new David.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on April 21, 2016, 09:05:21 AM
I think it will be safe to assum that there will be a new David's Harp, considering the effect of the new David.

I can tell you there isn't a new Harp. I would have spoiled it if there was. At least one version of David could hold his harp, and we did discuss reprinting it, but ultimately decided not to.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 21, 2016, 09:15:38 AM
 :'( I was hoping on it. Harp isnt that good right now, so I was hoping on improvement. lol
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 21, 2016, 09:40:08 AM
:'( I was hoping on it. Harp isnt that good right now, so I was hoping on improvement. lol

When making new cards, by nature, we're going to make some old cards obsolete. So we make a concentrate effort to breathe new life into old cards as well. There were discussions about reprinting David's Harp. It certainly would be appropriate in the context of the set. Instead, we've essentially added the following ability to the text of both versions of David's Harp:

"If David, the Psalmist enters battle, you may play an Involving Music."

You'll also find at least a dozen other old cards that suddenly have more playability because new cards give them a boost. Thanks for helping me decide what to spoil on LoR tomorrow!  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 21, 2016, 10:17:46 AM
Spoilers from today's article have been added to the first post in their proper places!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on April 21, 2016, 11:42:38 AM
Would have thought Egyptian Treasures would be and artifact instead of enhancement. I'm hoping for a decent boost to some of the existing OT evil themes in this set ad the last two sets were heavily focusef on NT themes.

Then you'll be excited to find out about some of the evil themes in 2 weeks on Land of Redemption!
Can't wait then to see them
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 21, 2016, 01:10:28 PM
Spoilers from today's article have been added to the first post in their proper places!

woo!!! this set just keeps getting better and better!! i love that it compliments both ot and nt simultaneously!! so cool!! ;D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 21, 2016, 07:04:48 PM
cannot express how much i love the new amazing borders!! nimrod's is so ill!!! cheetah print with purple it looks sooo sick!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 21, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
cannot express how much i love the new amazing borders!! nimrod's is so ill!!! cheetah print with purple it looks sooo sick!

I'm really excited that Rob let us do those borders. It started out as only 12-13, but once he saw how good they look he let us do all the rares!

Some of them, like Nimrod, the Great, are thematic. Being a King and a great hunter we blended purple (royalty) and animal. There are lots of fun gems like that hidden in the 129 Cloud of Witnesses cards! 8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 22, 2016, 02:10:33 AM
Spoiled cards from today's article have been added!

Also Joshua received a name change (to Joshua, Son of Nun) and his link/text in this thread have been updated to the new image/name.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on April 22, 2016, 08:04:40 AM
129 cards (90 commons, 36 rares, 3 ultra rares)

Rarity Key:
-XX ultra rare
-XX rare
-XX common

3 Aaron's Staff (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/03-Aarons-Staff.png)
4 Letter to the Hebrews (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/04-Letter-to-the-Hebrews.png)
7 Eternal Covenant (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Eternal_Covenant_CoW_pv.jpg)
8 You Will Remain (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/08-You-Will-Remain.png)
12 Cloud of Witnesses (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/12-Cloud-of-Witnesses.png)
15 The Throne of Grace (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/The_Throne_of_Grace_CoW_pv.jpg)
16 Salem (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Salem_CoW_pv.jpg)
31 Joshua, Son of Nun (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/31-Joshua-1.png)
32 Moses (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/32-Moses.png)
36 Daniel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/36-Daniel.png)
37 Jacob (Israel) (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/37-Jacob-Israel.png)
38 David, the Psalmist (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/38-David-the-Psalmist.png)
39 Rahab (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/39-Rahab.png)
40 Abel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/40-Abel.png)
41 Melchizedek (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/41-Melchizedek.png)
42 Samuel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Samuel_CoW_pv.jpg)
45 Reverence and Awe (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Reverence_and_Awe_CoW_pv.jpg)
47 Faith of Joshua (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Joshua_CoW_pv.jpg)
56 Faith of Gideon (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Gideon_CoW_pv.jpg)
58 Faith of Abel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Abel_CoW_pv.jpg)
64 Faith of Jacob (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Faith_of_Jacob_CoW_pv.jpg)
70 Isaac (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Isaac_CoW_pv.jpg)
78 Entertaining Angels (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Entertaining_Angels_CoW_pv.jpg)
80 Jephthah (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/80-Jephthah.png)
83 Barak (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/83-Barak.png)
84 The Angel of the Winds (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/84-The-Angel-of-the-Winds.png)
87 Moses' Parents (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/87-Moses-Parents-1.png)
90 Nimrod, the Mighty (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Nimrod_the_Mighty_CoW_pv.jpg)
97 Thrown to the Beasts (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Thrown_to_the_Beasts_CoW_pv.jpg)
103 Sisera's Army (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Siseras_Army_CoW_pv.jpg)
106 Sisera's Oppression (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Siseras_Oppression_CoW_pv.jpg)
112 Bear (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Bear_CoW_pv.jpg)
113 Deceitful Sin (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Deceitful_Sin_CoW_pv.jpg)
119 Egyptian Treasures (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Egyptian_Treasures_CoW_pv.jpg)

Gideon (preview) (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Gideon_what.jpg)

New Promos:
Eli the Priest (http://imgur.com/pj2AoIi.jpg)
Esau, the Hunter (http://imgur.com/jT0rSrX.jpg)
Gideon's 300 (http://imgur.com/bMWXsLK.jpg)
Lost Soul - Luke 5:15 (http://imgur.com/XOnGeOx.jpg)

These cards are freaking awesome!!!! I already pre-ordered a few packs....looking for my Musicians!!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Nameless on April 22, 2016, 08:31:02 AM
Would it be possible for you to indicate which cards are the new one that you added to the list?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 22, 2016, 09:48:24 AM
Would it be possible for you to indicate which cards are the new one that you added to the list?
I've added asterisks (*) before the card number of all the cards added today so they stand out as you read down the list. I will update this to whatever new cards I add whenever I add new cards. Thanks for the suggestion. :)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 22, 2016, 10:25:17 AM
:'( I was hoping on it. Harp isnt that good right now, so I was hoping on improvement. lol

When making new cards, by nature, we're going to make some old cards obsolete. So we make a concentrate effort to breathe new life into old cards as well. There were discussions about reprinting David's Harp. It certainly would be appropriate in the context of the set. Instead, we've essentially added the following ability to the text of both versions of David's Harp:

"If David, the Psalmist enters battle, you may play an Involving Music."

You'll also find at least a dozen other old cards that suddenly have more playability because new cards give them a boost. Thanks for helping me decide what to spoil on LoR tomorrow!  8)

Glad to help, mate. and stoked that I got a shout out in the article!.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 22, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
also, with the new Jephthah, does Ibzan have to be in your deck to be added to battle, or can you add him from territory or hand. I think it is the later, as the wording is similar to AUTO's draw and play ability where you can choose to do one or both of them.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 22, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
also, with the new Jephthah, does Ibzan have to be in your deck to be added to battle, or can you add him from territory or hand. I think it is the later, as the wording is similar to AUTO's draw and play ability where you can choose to do one or both of them.

Jephthah allows you to add Ibzan to battle from hand or territory. It's not required that you found him with the search.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 23, 2016, 10:02:04 AM
The spoiler from today's article (yes, a SATURDAY ARTICLE!!!!) has been added.

I also heard a rumor that there will be another article tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 23, 2016, 01:20:47 PM
Moses is a beast!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on April 23, 2016, 01:57:06 PM
Debatably, Moses is the most powerful character in the game.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on April 23, 2016, 02:53:21 PM
Moses is basically Isaiah + Isaiah's Call but minus the draw ability and protect purple kings. I think we could also get a Deborah reprint in this set seeing how Barak is here, also Jael too. I hope some of the older canaanite evil characters get reprinted due to their abilities being useful only if facing a certain offense.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 23, 2016, 04:32:42 PM
Moses is a beast, and I am going to accept it as a much needed Redemption-esque apology for territory class  ;)
The artwork isn't quite doing it for me though, he looks a little burnt.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 23, 2016, 04:47:54 PM
Moses is a beast, and I am going to accept it as a much needed Redemption-esque apology for territory class  ;)
The artwork isn't quite doing it for me though, he looks a little burnt.

The alternative was using the Warriors artwork again (which is already on 2 versions of Moses) so we thought it would be cool to switch things up.  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 23, 2016, 05:05:12 PM
Or draw one yourself and scan it into the computer...oh wait, this is all making more sense now.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Red on April 23, 2016, 06:24:53 PM
Why couldn't we have used the prophets artwork?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Daniel on April 23, 2016, 10:27:10 PM
Shocked and disappointed that this artwork wasn't used for Moses.

(https://1920332912.rsc.cdn77.org/view/moses-and-the-red-sea-2-GoodSalt-dpbas0025.jpg)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 23, 2016, 10:35:19 PM
Shocked and disappointed that this artwork wasn't used for Moses.

**image removed**
Rob stopped using Goodsalt art a few year ago, around the same time the card layout changed. So no real surprise that we didn't choose that piece. If we did still use Goodsalt, I find that piece less desirable than the one we chose.

We wanted to use this piece but our efforts to obtain the rights didn't work out.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Daniel on April 23, 2016, 10:42:56 PM
I find that piece less desirable than the one we chose.

I thought it was obvious from the way I worded it that I was kidding  :'( cmon Gabe. I support you.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 23, 2016, 11:12:56 PM
I find that piece less desirable than the one we chose.

I thought it was obvious from the way I worded it that I was kidding  :'( cmon Gabe. I support you.

Sorry, Daniel. It's been a long day and I'm very tired. Apparently my sense of humor fell asleep about 2 hours ago.  ::)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 24, 2016, 12:20:17 AM
dude i freakin love the new Moses ability and the art, and all of the killer new borders are awesome!! Sooo looking forward to more spoilers! It has got me going crazy to open some booster packs of Cloud of Witnesses!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 24, 2016, 10:08:07 AM
Today's spoiler has been added.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on April 24, 2016, 05:16:41 PM
AUTO>Sam that can search>David the Shepherd>Ahimelek + unified kingdom/battlecry/Deborahs directive = Awesome.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 24, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
while I'm thinking about this, does anyone know when the cards will be available on Lackey? that way we can practice with them.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on April 24, 2016, 06:40:30 PM
You could download the pictures and edit the code... I'm thinking about doing that. Probably not a super viable option for most people, but it's an idea
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 24, 2016, 06:43:07 PM
My guess is that Lackey will be updated once all the cards are spoiled.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 24, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kram1138 on April 24, 2016, 10:42:37 PM
I'll probably start making an updated card list for lackey as the spoilers come. That way, probably only a couple of fixes is necessary once the official card list is finalized.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 24, 2016, 11:47:51 PM
I'll probably start making an updated card list for lackey as the spoilers come. That way, probably only a couple of fixes is necessary once the official card list is finalized.

No need, the list has already been started.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 25, 2016, 04:20:22 AM
Part 2 moved to first page, thanks Guardian!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 25, 2016, 04:23:01 AM
Apologies for the double post but I had need of splitting the list into a second post (darn 5000 character limit, lol).

Spoilers from today's (Monday's) article have been added!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 25, 2016, 11:23:52 AM
Both Isaac card images have been updated with new art.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 25, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
Soo many good cards! Faith of Isaac is brutal! If you find Son of God, can you take it to play two Son of God and New Jerusalem for 3 souls?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 25, 2016, 11:40:16 AM
Soo many good cards! Faith of Isaac is brutal! If you find Son of God, can you take it to play two Son of God and New Jerusalem for 3 souls?
:scratch: Say what?

I think you're reading it wrong... it says "deck" not "a deck" so if you're thinking you can look at opponent's deck, that is incorrect.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 25, 2016, 11:51:09 AM
Soo many good cards! Faith of Isaac is brutal! If you find Son of God, can you take it to play two Son of God and New Jerusalem for 3 souls?

You can take Son of God with it, but since it's coming from your own deck you probably shouldn't have 2 of them.  ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 25, 2016, 12:24:23 PM
oh okay of course! holder's perspective. i read it as of a deck xD
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on April 25, 2016, 01:28:00 PM
Wow so we've seen almost half x of the new cards already?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 25, 2016, 01:48:13 PM
Wow so we've seen almost half x of the new cards already?

Our goal is to have almost all of them previewed by the end of next week so players can get familiar with them well before the official release.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: KingLeo on April 25, 2016, 03:03:47 PM
When can we expect an updated lackey?? On the day of the release maybe?? and anyone be willing to buy all of the new cars to make a massive trade with me. I have no money but tons of good cards Id be willing to trade. PM haha.

KingLeo 8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on April 25, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
I like how Pitch and Gopher Wood protects Noah's Ark and its contents from ANB.

Can't wait to see what the reprint of Noah and Noah's Ark do.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 25, 2016, 10:46:12 PM
I've updated the Isaac cards pics with the new versions!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 25, 2016, 11:40:37 PM
Browa,

I deleted a few posts so that you have the first two if you want to move the part 2 list to the beginning of the thread.

(If anyone's worried, the deleted posts were mostly just Gabe spoiling the fact that Doeg is getting a reprint  8) )
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 25, 2016, 11:49:40 PM
Browa,

I deleted a few posts so that you have the first two if you want to move the part 2 list to the beginning of the thread.

(If anyone's worried, the deleted posts were mostly just Gabe spoiling the fact that Doeg is getting a reprint  8) )

Doug's getting a reprint? John, did you know about this?  :dunno: :scratch: :miss:

Thanks to feedback from players like MasterQ and IronIsaac, we updated about a dozen pieces of card art today! Many of these you saw prior to the change so take a look at the previews on Land of Redemption and let us know what you think.

Aaron's Staff (added background)
[Edited by R.O.S.E.S] (have to wait until next week)
Daniel
Jacob
Samuel
Joseph
Faith of Isaac
Isaac
Samson
Jephthah
Gideon
Doeg (what???)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jesse on April 26, 2016, 12:32:29 AM
I really like the artwork update- besides from being nice pieces in and of themselves, it definitely gives the set its own distinct feel.

It's really cool that the elders of Redemption are so receptive to feedback from the community!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 26, 2016, 01:36:49 AM
samson, huh, Gabe?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 26, 2016, 01:55:29 AM
Browa,

I deleted a few posts so that you have the first two if you want to move the part 2 list to the beginning of the thread.
Thanks! Part 2 of the list has been moved to the second post and is now with the first half at the beginning of the thread. :)

Thanks to feedback from players like MasterQ and IronIsaac, we updated about a dozen pieces of card art today! Many of these you saw prior to the change so take a look at the previews on Land of Redemption and let us know what you think.
I'm pretty sure I got all the links in the list updated with the new art. If anyone finds one I missed please let me know!

Also I've added all the spoilers from today's (Tuesday's) article!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: sk on April 26, 2016, 04:03:19 AM
The new set looks most excellent.  I am excited to see these cards in action.  Well done!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Master Q on April 26, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
Loving the updated art!  8) Vast improvement.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on April 26, 2016, 11:21:12 AM
Man, i can't wait to see some of the genesis decks at nationals!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 26, 2016, 02:11:41 PM
man these cards in the new set are just looking better and better! can't wait for the release and to start boosting these in draft at state!! :) Early Church is an amazing booster draft, Persecuted Church is even better, and now Cloud of Witnesses may be the best yet!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on April 26, 2016, 02:40:18 PM
This set really changes booster strategy for the older sets already. Definitely excited for it.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on April 26, 2016, 05:45:00 PM

I'm pretty sure I got all the links in the list updated with the new art. If anyone finds one I missed please let me know!


It isn't new art, but the link for Samson isn't working.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kram1138 on April 26, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Egyptian Treasures isn't working either
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 26, 2016, 10:07:42 PM
It isn't new art, but the link for Samson isn't working.
Egyptian Treasures isn't working either
Thanks for the heads up! Samson's link changed to add his full name and I'm not sure why Egyptian Treasures wasn't working before. Both card links have been fixed!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 27, 2016, 02:29:31 AM
The spoilers from today's article have been added!

EDIT: Also, Every Man's Sword, which was spoiled on Facebook, has been added as well.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 27, 2016, 04:27:52 PM
that new Jericho!! danng look at those new battle winners!! :)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on April 27, 2016, 04:28:57 PM
It isn't new art, but the link for Samson isn't working.
Egyptian Treasures isn't working either
Thanks for the heads up! Samson's link changed to add his full name and I'm not sure why Egyptian Treasures wasn't working before. Both card links have been fixed!

Hey for some reason David, the Psalmist isn't working now.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 27, 2016, 04:32:59 PM
Sorry, Browa (and everyone else). I think these broken links are my fault. There were minor details updated on some of these cards (Samson, David, etc) so I updated the image(s) on LoR. That probably broke the links here.

Card updates should be done now though. They are being readied for the printer!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 27, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
David, the Psalmist has been fixed and I've verified that all other card image links are (currently) working!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 28, 2016, 01:58:28 AM
Spoilers from today's article have been added!

Loving the musician support. :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 29, 2016, 01:22:18 AM
Cards from today's article have been added, including the first revealed Ultra Rare!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Kor on April 29, 2016, 01:57:33 AM
Question about broken covenant.  How does one go about discarding a 'random' card from deck anyhow?  If no deck manipulation has taken place it is easy, but if some has is there an implied shuffle in the ability?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Redoubter on April 29, 2016, 06:51:30 AM
Question about broken covenant.  How does one go about discarding a 'random' card from deck anyhow?  If no deck manipulation has taken place it is easy, but if some has is there an implied shuffle in the ability?

You bring up a really great question that we worked on the entire playtesting process after introducing "random" to the card.  What we have is an REG entry that will tell you how to do a random discard, though yes it will shuffle the deck (if any manipulation has taken place, you wouldn't be able to do it randomly otherwise).  That entry will actually clarify "random" generally, which we kind of needed and missed previously.  Since the official wording isn't out yet, I can't share that, but great catch :)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Josh on April 29, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
Just for fun, I did an analysis and created some baseless speculation informed predictions based on the known cards  :D

Cards 1 and 2 are probably the two dominants from the set, and therefore are probably the other two URs.

Card 6 is an artifact.

Cards 9 and 10 are covenants or curses, and probably multicolor.

Card 13 is a fortress (although it’s weird, Jericho (evil fort, card 14) coming before The Throne of Grace (good fort, card 15)).

Cards 17-26 are sites and dual-alignment enhancements. 

Cards 29 and 30 are dual-alignment enhancements or multi-color heroes.

Cards 34-35 are multi-color heroes.  Since Barak is getting a reprint, I’d say a fair guess would be Deborah being one of these.

Card 44 is a multicolor hero or a rainbow GE.

Card 46 is a rainbow GE or a “Faith” GE.  Probably a rainbow GE, due to Redoubter spoiling an implied “all” of the Faith GEs.

Cards 67 and 69 are single color heroes, probably Genesis ones due to the placement of Abraham, Sarah, and Isaac. 

Cards 71-77 are single-color heroes or single-color enhancements.  I’m guessing we are going to finally get all 13 children of Jacob printed with cards 67, 69, and 71-77, as well as a new Rebekah and Noah's family.  I'll go ahead and call it:  A Blue reprint of ANB is coming!

Cards 85 and 86 are single-color heroes.

Cards 91-94 are multicolor ECs or rainbow EEs.

Card 96 is a multicolor or rainbow EE.

Cards 98-102 are multicolor EEs or single color ECs.  Maybe Persian support?

Cards 104 and 105 are Black Canaanite support, either ECs or EEs.

Cards 107-109 are single color ECs or EEs, probably Black or Brown.

Cards 115-118 are single color ECs or EEs, probably evil Gold Egyptian support (due to the placement of The Murdering Pharaoh and Egyptian Treasures).

Cards 120-129 are single color ECs or EEs.  Probably mostly Edomite and animal support, as there isn’t enough room in the “gaps” amid the known cards to place a new theme, and I am certain there is more to the animal theme than Bear + Thrown To The Beasts.  This could also be Persian support, if cards 98-102 end up being animal support.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 29, 2016, 10:27:48 AM
Very insightful analysis! 8)

Cards 1 and 2 are probably the two dominants from the set, and therefore are probably the other two URs.
Partially correct. ::)

Card 6 is an artifact.
Bingo!

Cards 9 and 10 are covenants or curses, and probably multicolor.
You're half right.

Card 13 is a fortress (although it’s weird, Jericho (evil fort, card 14) coming before The Throne of Grace (good fort, card 15)).
Correct, and one of our three winner created cards, none of which have been spoiled yet!

Cards 17-26 are sites and dual-alignment enhancements.
You're correct about only 1 card. ???

Cards 29 and 30 are dual-alignment enhancements or multi-color heroes.
Spot on!

Cards 34-35 are multi-color heroes.  Since Barak is getting a reprint, I’d say a fair guess would be Deborah being one of these.
These Heroes are special and being saved for the final week. (What?!?! Something more special than Moses?!! ...maybe :o)

Card 44 is a multicolor hero or a rainbow GE.
BOOM!

Card 46 is a rainbow GE or a “Faith” GE.  Probably a rainbow GE, due to Redoubter spoiling an implied “all” of the Faith GEs.
Another winner created card!

Cards 67 and 69 are single color heroes, probably Genesis ones due to the placement of Abraham, Sarah, and Isaac. 

Cards 71-77 are single-color heroes or single-color enhancements.  I’m guessing we are going to finally get all 13 children of Jacob printed with cards 67, 69, and 71-77, as well as a new Rebekah and Noah's family.  I'll go ahead and call it:  A Blue reprint of ANB is coming!
Bold predictions! Would we do that? So much blue all in one set... ::)

Cards 85 and 86 are single-color heroes.
You guessed one of them. You'll know both on Saturday!

Cards 91-94 are multicolor ECs or rainbow EEs.
All meet one of those two criteria.

Card 96 is a multicolor or rainbow EE.
Spot on!

Cards 98-102 are multicolor EEs or single color ECs.  Maybe Persian support?
You're warm...

Cards 104 and 105 are Black Canaanite support, either ECs or EEs.
Batting .500 on this one.

Cards 107-109 are single color ECs or EEs, probably Black or Brown.
Seems logical.

Cards 115-118 are single color ECs or EEs, probably evil Gold Egyptian support (due to the placement of The Murdering Pharaoh and Egyptian Treasures).
Nailed it!

Cards 120-129 are single color ECs or EEs.  Probably mostly Edomite and animal support, as there isn’t enough room in the “gaps” amid the known cards to place a new theme, and I am certain there is more to the animal theme than Bear + Thrown To The Beasts.  This could also be Persian support, if cards 98-102 end up being animal support.
Excellent guess being as we've given you almost nothing to go on thus far.

For doing so well you win a clue! Cards 120-122 give support to an old theme that needs a boost. Cards 123-129 are something new all together!

Anyone want to tally his score? I'm pretty sure I want jmhartz on my team!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 29, 2016, 10:32:58 AM
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Anyone want to tally his score? I'm pretty sure I want jmhartz on my team!!

By my count I have 9 correct guesses, 8 partially correct guesses and 2 wrong guesses.  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 29, 2016, 10:39:09 AM
I'm hoping for some new Bab support.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 29, 2016, 10:44:55 AM
I'm hoping for some new Bab support.

Most of the crimson support went to animals but we did throw the Babylonians a bone or two.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 29, 2016, 11:14:10 AM
more like a rod!! haha Nimrod is sick for babs!!

Broken Covenant! first ultra rare spotted!! sick ability!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Josh on April 29, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Cards 17-26 are sites and dual-alignment enhancements.
You're correct about only 1 card. ???

Ok, this requires more speculation further analysis.  Card 16 is a site, and card 27 is a DAE.  Everything in between is probably neutral, artifacts were already covered, and only 1 is a site or DAE?  Possible explanations:

1. Dual-alignment heroes!  Gabe did make a comment within the last month or so about Abijam being the only DAH...  ...as of now.
2. New card type! 
3. Duh, Lost Souls!  How could I forget about these?  Definitely some of these are Lost Souls.
4. The PTB included some non-neutral cards in this range to throw me off. 

How do you all vote???  I think it's gotta be a combination of 1 and 3, but this is 10 cards we are talking about!  Could a new card type be coming?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on April 29, 2016, 11:39:05 AM
I vote for...

Wait a minute... ::)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 29, 2016, 11:50:13 AM
I dont think it is a new card type. I think the one was another site, I think at least 5 of those are new souls, considering the new ruling on souls in T1  and T2 decks. I would say maybe 2 DAH (maybe Lot and King Saul?). The other two, I dont know.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 29, 2016, 11:51:46 AM
scratch Lot, A SAUL/PAUL REPRINT!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Josh on April 29, 2016, 11:55:14 AM
I dont think it is a new card type. I think the one was another site, I think at least 5 of those are new souls, considering the new ruling on souls in T1  and T2 decks. I would say maybe 2 DAH (maybe Lot and King Saul?). The other two, I dont know.

I was thinking possibly King Jehu for a DAH. 

I think Gabe said somewhere that there are 4 DAEs, so since two have been spoiled, if we assume there is 1 more site, then cards 29 and 30 are DAEs (instead of multicolor heroes), and there are 9 total DAHs and LSs.  And I'm sure most of these will be LSs.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 29, 2016, 11:56:17 AM
Could a new card type be coming?
You'll find out in Sunday's preview article on Land of Redemption!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 29, 2016, 11:59:27 AM
scratch Lot, A SAUL/PAUL REPRINT!!!!

we can only hope.. lol seems kind of appropriate with it being Hebrews to have a Saul/Paul reprint ^^ even though he is already really good. judging from the new Moses he will most likely be territory class.. have a heal ability with some sweet identifiers maybe still cbn enh and he is cbn lol xD
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 29, 2016, 12:06:57 PM
I would hope for lower numbers, maybe 7/8  or so for evil (black and grey) and 5/6 for good (either rainbow or clay, green, and white(maybe not the white), a TC heal, and cloud cards CBN or cards from the books he wrote CBN, and if blocking, discard a missionary with numbers 7/8 or lower.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Redoubter on April 29, 2016, 12:14:54 PM
I would hope for lower numbers, maybe 7/8  or so for evil (black and grey) and 5/6 for good (either rainbow or clay, green, and white(maybe not the white), a TC heal, and cloud cards CBN or cards from the books he wrote CBN, and if blocking, discard a missionary with numbers 7/8 or lower.

One of the things we have been trying to do in this set, and in recent sets, is encourage the use of older cards, not just replace them.  Paul is good where he is, for the most part, and so we had printed support for him instead so that people could use that older card.  I also would say that a Saul/Paul reprint would never be anything but grey on evil, since he was a Pharisee and opposed the Sadducees ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 29, 2016, 01:05:40 PM
ah. I thought he worked with both. that is my mistake. and I figured that what I was saying would have mde it more of a choice. either CBN everything, plus every brigade able to be played, or being able to heal and stuff with lower numbers. I dont know, I saw a lot of reprints with different abilities and was trying to do something like that.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Drrek on April 29, 2016, 01:17:45 PM
seems kind of appropriate with it being Hebrews to have a Saul/Paul reprint

Why would Hebrews be appropriate for Saul/Paul?  ???  While some have thought that Saul might have written Hebrews, it is unclear who did, and the differences in style make most scholars believe that was not Paul.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on April 29, 2016, 05:11:52 PM
Could a new card type be coming?
You'll find out in Sunday's preview article on Land of Redemption!

I think it'll be a dual fort
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on April 29, 2016, 05:17:30 PM
Maybe we will see behemoth finally. As some sort of neutral not quite a hero card? I just want to see a leviathan reprint and a behemoth card. The set utilizes animals so... hopefully? Maybe? Please?  :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on April 29, 2016, 05:23:02 PM
I'm hoping for "Battlegrounds", or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on April 30, 2016, 03:38:00 AM
The 2 previews from today's article have been added! Great teal support for those looking to revive their Temple decks.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on April 30, 2016, 09:24:05 AM
So the only problem/ worry I have with the cloud characters is that it might not get much support in the future. They are taking all these cards from one chapter, and there isn't really any other place where this stuff is mentioned. I feel like this will kind of die off like priests(although they did get some pretty nice support in this set) and not really be used much and almost never have new cards in the future sets except for reprints.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on April 30, 2016, 09:36:13 AM
So the only problem/ worry I have with the cloud characters is that it might not get much support in the future. They are taking all these cards from one chapter, and there isn't really any other place where this stuff is mentioned. I feel like this will kind of die off like priests(although they did get some pretty nice support in this set) and not really be used much and almost never have new cards in the future sets except for reprints.

You're absolutely correct! The cloud icon cards are unique to this set alone. A cloud based offense will be the new thing this year, and most likely competitive for years to come. We may print a new cloud card every once in a while in future sets, if we decide to revisit a verse from Hebrews 11.

We were very intentional about the design of the cloud cards to make them multifaceted. Almost every cloud based card is still useful outside the cloud theme. Even after the concept of a "cloud offense" is old hat, many of the cloud based cards will still see play in their respective themes and brigades.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on April 30, 2016, 09:38:20 AM
So the only problem/ worry I have with the cloud characters is that it might not get much support in the future. They are taking all these cards from one chapter, and there isn't really any other place where this stuff is mentioned. I feel like this will kind of die off like priests(although they did get some pretty nice support in this set) and not really be used much and almost never have new cards in the future sets except for reprints.
Gabe said that cloud cards are exclusive to this set. They will probably get support through their themes like joshua cards, exodus, prophets, genesis and so on. The priest died off due to lack of good cards and the abilities relying on either the temple or a separate hero to be in play, or exclusive to a offering/ feast
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 30, 2016, 11:48:23 AM
I'm amazed you think priests have died off Isaac.. Look at my T1 Iron Man deck for 2015 under National Tournament Winners ;) Cloud is going to have a hard time dying off even if there is no other set to print another cloud card (which I'm sure there will be) not to mention priests are getting an incredible boost here with just a handful of cards! Cloud of Witnesses it's easily turning out to be the most versatile set I think I've seen in all of Redemption's history! That's the beauty of it! It is almost entirely complimentary to nearly every deck type!! :-) Love seeing these spoilers! Keep them coming! ^^
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kram1138 on April 30, 2016, 11:50:38 AM
Teal isn't really gone, it's just become less popular and it's mainly used as support for other brigades.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on April 30, 2016, 11:15:27 PM
really excited to see some more evil spoilers! new moses and the new teal cards got me thinking this is one of the most powerful offensive sets yet!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 01, 2016, 02:09:42 AM
New card from today's article has been added, and it's a big one!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 02, 2016, 03:44:29 AM
Today's spoilers have been added. Those interested in the development of the animal theme will want to check these out!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 02, 2016, 09:20:21 AM
Rob's dropping some AWESOME spoilers on the Redemption CCG Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/RedemptionCardGame/). Expect an article on Land of Redemption later this week to explain some of the things you see there.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 02, 2016, 09:59:35 AM
Love the Lions and Coliseum Lions cards! Lions gives Daniel decks a nice addition! Thanks for this!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 02, 2016, 10:11:58 AM
The 3 new cards from Facebook have been added! And they're all Rares!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Josh on May 02, 2016, 11:24:40 AM
Cards 120-122 give support to an old theme that needs a boost. Cards 123-129 are something new all together!

So cards 120-122 are Syrian support, and cards 123-129 are the new Pale Green Antediluvean theme, per the spoilers on Facebook.

Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 02, 2016, 11:54:55 AM
Type 2 Syrians are gonna be so much fun!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on May 02, 2016, 02:32:15 PM
It seems to me that crimson, pale green, and brown are being crowded with themes while other brigades are left with only two. Like the new cards though
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 02, 2016, 02:46:35 PM
It seems to me that crimson, pale green, and brown are being crowded with themes while other brigades are left with only two. Like the new cards though

Well, seeing as grey, orange, black, and gold(kinda) got some nice boosts in the last two sets, i think it's good that they're expanding on these colors more, especially brown, which i always felt like didn't have enough support imo.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 02, 2016, 03:16:58 PM
Just want to say that I'm loving all of the art for these cards,  a job well done!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 02, 2016, 04:05:26 PM
It seems to me that crimson, pale green, and brown are being crowded with themes while other brigades are left with only two. Like the new cards though

Like Silver for Angels, Orange will only be for demons. Black has Caananites, Philistines, Sadducees and Greeks so there is plenty going on in Black. Gold is Egyptians/Herods so maybe room for another theme there (though Egyptians are going to end up having Genesis and Exodus themes). Gray has Romans,  Syrians and Pharisees so there's also three options there. If anything, Brown could maybe get a NT theme but we'll see.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 02, 2016, 04:49:20 PM
I saw the new Cain card! Awesome.....but what is antedeluvian?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 02, 2016, 04:51:17 PM
I saw the new Cain card! Awesome.....but what is antedeluvian?

NVM.....just looked it up....."Pre-flood".....Got it!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 02, 2016, 04:51:40 PM
I saw the new Cain card! Awesome.....but what is antedeluvian?

Tune in to LoR on Wednesday for a full explanation!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 03, 2016, 01:16:52 AM
Cards from today's article have been added. Check out Land of Redemption for some interesting backstory on them!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 03, 2016, 01:30:22 AM
I dont think it is a new card type. I think the one was another site, I think at least 5 of those are new souls, considering the new ruling on souls in T1  and T2 decks. I would say maybe 2 DAH (maybe Lot and King Saul?). The other two, I dont know.
HA!!! I was right about Saul!!! YAY!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 03, 2016, 01:37:26 AM
Hopefully this means a witch of endor reprint. :) Samuel and Saul are already in the set.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 03, 2016, 02:02:53 AM
Hopefully this means a witch of endor reprint. :) Samuel and Saul are already in the set.
There will be a Part 2 for the Saul story/previews so we will have to wait and see. ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 03, 2016, 02:06:22 AM
I would guess Johnathan as well. and maybe mephibosheth. just to hash out some of the older royalty that are basically useless.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on May 03, 2016, 08:33:45 AM
I would guess Johnathan as well. and maybe mephibosheth. just to hash out some of the older royalty that are basically useless.
Don't forget Absalom and Amasa
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 03, 2016, 09:08:50 AM
I would guess Johnathan as well. and maybe mephibosheth. just to hash out some of the older royalty that are basically useless.
Don't forget Absalom and Amasa


very exciting!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 04, 2016, 01:36:14 AM
btw, new spoilers where posted. :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 04, 2016, 01:54:51 AM
btw, new spoilers where posted. :D
Yup! I hadn't had a chance to actually post that I added them yet, but they're there!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 04, 2016, 12:17:54 PM
So based on the article there are 5 characters that are considered Antediluvians.  Is this including The Serpent, or are we still waiting on the revealing of another character in this group?

Also, I'm guessing that even though the card doesn't say it, all of the old identifiers for characters are still relevant?  The most obvious are the royalty, King of Israel and prophet of King Saul.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 04, 2016, 12:22:41 PM
So based on the article there are 5 characters that are considered Antediluvians.  Is this including The Serpent, or are we still waiting on the revealing of another character in this group?

All the antediluvians have been revealed!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 04, 2016, 01:16:15 PM
So based on the article there are 5 characters that are considered Antediluvians.  Is this including The Serpent, or are we still waiting on the revealing of another character in this group?

The 5 I mentioned includes The Serpent. All evil antediluvian cards were revealed in today's article. Prior versions of Cain and The Serpent are also considered antediluvians.

Also, I'm guessing that even though the card doesn't say it, all of the old identifiers for characters are still relevant?  The most obvious are the royalty, King of Israel and prophet of King Saul.

Yes, King Saul retains all of his identifiers even though they are not printed on this version.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 05, 2016, 01:20:12 AM
Today's spoilers are now added to the list! I don't remember who, but someone predicted a Witch of Endor reprint. Congratulations, you were right! :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 05, 2016, 01:27:04 AM
Wow, only forty more to go
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 05, 2016, 01:40:20 AM
Today's spoilers are now added to the list! I don't remember who, but someone predicted a Witch of Endor reprint. Congratulations, you were right! :D
Called it.  :) but now I can only guess widely at what will be in the set. Joab, absolom, amasa, abner, johnathan, mephibosheth, ahithophel, adino, abishai, jashobeam, pharaohs daughter, miriam, Deborah, noah, his sons and their wives, Enoch, levaithan, behemoth, syrians related to laban, lot, his wife and daughters, more egyptians, and prophets like elisha and Elijah, and cards related to them I can all see being in this set. Just so many options. Great set thus far. Can't wait for the rest.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 05, 2016, 09:26:57 AM
Hmmm... Based on some of the new cards that are coming out, would we maybe see a crimson brown defense with a kings offense?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 05, 2016, 09:39:43 AM
Hmmm... Based on some of the new cards that are coming out, would we maybe see a crimson brown defense with a red/purple kings offense?

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 05, 2016, 10:26:52 AM
Gabe's 2 spoilers have been added to the list. :P
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jesse on May 05, 2016, 11:52:42 AM
Oh yeah, Joab is awesome!!! If any of you are familiar with Dragon Ball Z, he reminds me a lot of Vegeta- very strong as a warrior but a renegade! Can't do with or without him kind of guy...I'm excited to use this reprint in my OT red deck!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 06, 2016, 02:08:01 AM
Today's spoilers have been added. I love the new Egyptian support! Makes me excited to revamp my Genyptians deck (also with the new Genesis stuff).
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 06, 2016, 02:19:28 AM
I'm still hoping on a new Bab of some sort.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 06, 2016, 02:31:43 AM
I'm still hoping on a new Bab of some sort.

Like Nimrod, the Mighty? 8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 06, 2016, 02:47:22 AM
here are my predictions of the cards that are left. sadly, I dont think there will be much bab support.
1&2 - dominants
6 - covenant. have had 3 artifacts, three curses, but only two covenants.
13 - The Ark
17&18 - sites
19-22 - lost souls
29 - DAE
34&35 - heroes, dual brigad
44 - I'll say a blue hero
46 - another all brigade GE
67 - Hagar
69 - Ishmael
71-77 finish off any faith enhancements, then heroes
96 - all brigade EE
98-102 - caananites
105 - Sisera
120,122 - Syrians
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 06, 2016, 02:49:20 AM
I'm still hoping on a new Bab of some sort.

Like Nimrod, the Mighty? 8)
??? ??? ??? :o :o :o :o :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :( :( :( :(
I'm just gonna, go and, ya know, crawl in my cupboard here..... and not  say anymore wishful thinking. lol. but I was also hoping for something a little more dramatic with them. so..... bye. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Josh on May 06, 2016, 08:01:09 AM
here are my predictions of the cards that are left. sadly, I dont think there will be much bab support.
1&2 - dominants
6 - covenant. have had 3 artifacts, three curses, but only two covenants.
13 - The Ark
17&18 - sites
19-22 - lost souls
29 - DAE
34&35 - heroes, dual brigad
44 - I'll say a blue hero
46 - another all brigade GE
67 - Hagar
69 - Ishmael
71-77 finish off any faith enhancements, then heroes
96 - all brigade EE
98-102 - caananites
105 - Sisera
120,122 - Syrians

Gabe has already confirmed that 6 is an artifact, 13 is a fortress (it's going to be Coliseum), and 44 is a multi-color hero or multi-color GE.  There will be no more Faith enhancements in 71-77 - we've seen them all.  I doubt Hagar and Ishmael will get printed before Rebekah.  71-77 will be Flood Survivors.  I doubt 98-102 will be all Canaanites.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 06, 2016, 09:25:48 AM
Finally! The original Pharoah has a reprint!!!! And it's great!!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 06, 2016, 12:24:07 PM
13 is a fortress (it's going to be Coliseum)

The Ark has been talked about on several cards, at this point I think the Fortress is going to be the Ark, and the Coliseum is going to be a site (#17) that gives perks to Romans.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 06, 2016, 07:41:24 PM
I think everyone will be really excited (and perhaps surprised) with how those cards are actually set. ::)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on May 06, 2016, 08:26:39 PM
Are the "player made cards" separate from cards of their same type in the numbering of the set?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 07, 2016, 01:22:53 AM
new spoilers are out.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 07, 2016, 05:23:27 PM
Spoilers from today's article have been added! Sorry for the delay, I'm not at home this weekend and am working from my tablet.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 07, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
One more to break a hundred? Haha
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on May 07, 2016, 05:54:15 PM
That seems fair!

Here's a reprint of a classic counter with some better utility to deal with the increase in power of what it counters

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 07, 2016, 07:02:05 PM
Ask and you shall receive!  Thank you this is awesome
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 07, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
That seems fair!

Here's a reprint of a classic counter with some better utility to deal with the increase in power of what it counters

Spoiler (hover to show)

awesome, love this reprint
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Post by: jesse on May 07, 2016, 07:55:16 PM
Any update on the exact release date of the set?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on May 08, 2016, 08:38:26 AM
Today's spoilers are good if you play with the churches, if not good for collecting purposes.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: SignoftheStar on May 08, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.
Or maybe I'm still just a noob.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 08, 2016, 09:30:35 AM
Hey everyone, just a heads up that I won't be able to add the new spoilers to the list until I get home tonight. I have to do a bunch of wrangling now with every preview to make sure the posts stay under the 5000 character limit and it's nigh impossible to do that much on my tablet without a mouse and such, haha.

I will have everything added this evening (including the Wool Fleece spoiler above), and then tomorrow's article spoilers should be added at a more normal pace. :P
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 08, 2016, 09:31:26 AM
What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.

There are a number of things to be considered with the new version of Falling Away. Enough that Land of Redemption will do a full article on this card in the future. Rob gave us a schedule of previewing all 129 cards in 4 weeks. That doesn't allow us to do every card justice as we reveal them the first time around.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 08, 2016, 09:43:19 AM
Which also means that we have a full TWO MORE WEEKS of Cloud of Witnesses spoiler articles! I, for one, am super excited.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 08, 2016, 09:53:05 AM
Which also means that we have a full TWO MORE WEEKS of Cloud of Witnesses spoiler articles! I, for one, am super excited.

That's kind of true...

All cards will be spoiled by the end of this week. However, we already have some other great features ready to share in waiting for the full set to be spoiled - including:

A podcast with T1-2P National Champion John Earley discussion Cloud of Witnesses and how it will impact the new meta!
A video by Redoubter explaining how Cloud of Witnesses tells an amazing story!
A "high level play" (test) game between T1-2P National Campion John Earley and Gabe Isbell.
Articles from the create a card winners from Nationals 2015 explaining the card they created.
...And more!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 08, 2016, 11:11:47 AM
What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.
Or maybe I'm still just a noob.

Yes, I think you are missing something.  ;)

Now I'm not going to claim that the new one is better than the old version, but I do believe they are comparable. If used correctly, it will still result in your opponent having one less rescued soul, right?. Will it always work to stop a rescue? No, but then again sometimes the old Falling Away doesn't work either if your opponent is using GoyS or Lampstand.

Not to mention it's versatility...often times the best play will be to target your opponent's attacker, but what if they attack with a band and you have no ECs? Simply convert one of your own Heroes to an EC in whatever brigade you need and you can potentially do more damage than simply taking back the free Lost Soul you had to give up for lack of an EC.

All this and more will be explained in a future LoR article, but don't be so quick to dismiss  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 08, 2016, 01:03:43 PM
Now I wonder what the last two Ultra rares will be. I feel like one will be the last Dom and the other might be Coliseum or a lost soul maybe. We shall see!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: SignoftheStar on May 08, 2016, 01:10:57 PM
Tip of the hat to Gabe and The Guardian. I am very interested in the Land of Redemption article on Falling Away.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 08, 2016, 02:22:21 PM
What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.
Or maybe I'm still just a noob.

Yes, I think you are missing something.  ;)

Now I'm not going to claim that the new one is better than the old version, but I do believe they are comparable. If used correctly, it will still result in your opponent having one less rescued soul, right?. Will it always work to stop a rescue? No, but then again sometimes the old Falling Away doesn't work either if your opponent is using GoyS or Lampstand.

Not to mention it's versatility...often times the best play will be to target your opponent's attacker, but what if they attack with a band and you have no ECs? Simply convert one of your own Heroes to an EC in whatever brigade you need and you can potentially do more damage than simply taking back the free Lost Soul you had to give up for lack of an EC.

All this and more will be explained in a future LoR article, but don't be so quick to dismiss  8)


Love/Grail + EC with horses + new Falling Away = amazing
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Redoubter on May 08, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.

It is a more versatile card, and something that can actually be more useful in a lot of decks or against a lot of archetypes.  Stopping a rescue before the soul is in LoR really is equivalent to undoing the rescue (more so when #5, or #3 if SoG/NJ haven't been played, is the rescue); it also has fewer protections than there are against the current FA, though of course at the expense of not always working still.

The point was not to create an "upgrade" on Falling Away, that wouldn't make much sense for us to do; just like everything else that is being "reprinted" as part of this set (including some old staple characters), the point was to try and make something new and thought-provoking for deck-building and strategy, as well as to allow for more options that people could legitimately choose to work with.

All that said, I can tell you that playtesters have had fun with this card, and found it to be extremely useful.  Will it replace the old FA?  Will you use either?  Who knows, but the fact that there are legitimate options to choose between was something we wanted for the game.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 08, 2016, 09:13:43 PM
Okay the list is up-to-date with all spoilers so far! (I'm pretty sure)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jesse on May 08, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
Thanks Browa! You're doing a great job. It's very convenient to have the list all in one place and exciting to follow along with the overall progress of the spoilers!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 08, 2016, 11:26:35 PM
Full set lists for Cloud of Witnesses (both excel and PDF) as well as images for all the cards will be added to the resource section of Land of Redemption the week of May 16th.

Rob has not given any further indication of the release date. It will vary depending on the printer, shipping and the requirements for package as well as Rob's other work load. I'm hoping for a late May release!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kram1138 on May 08, 2016, 11:44:31 PM
Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 08, 2016, 11:53:57 PM
Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?

I'm not personally doing the Lackey update so I can't speak directly to that. Whomever is doing it welcome to contact me directly to obtain all card images in a nice little package, if they need them.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 09, 2016, 04:27:18 AM
Today's spoilers have been added! These are, hands down, my 2 favorite cards from the entire set. :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 09, 2016, 09:43:19 AM
Those cards are friggin' incredible!!!! Genesis blue has just become my favorite!!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: spacy32 on May 09, 2016, 11:03:49 AM
I ask on the LoR site but Enoch can be rescued like a lost soul because he never died? Does this mean we will see an Elijah card with the same ability because he never died also?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 10, 2016, 01:20:05 AM
Today's flood survivor spoilers (all SEVEN of them) have been added!

Can't wait to buy some packs and (hopefully) get some of this Genesis support to revamp my deck! :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 10, 2016, 08:31:38 AM
I bet the ark will be the national promo.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 10, 2016, 12:47:57 PM
I bet the ark will be the national promo.

good call!! i wonder if it will work with a new beginning or the flood!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on May 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . . ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 10, 2016, 07:03:03 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . . ;)

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.  ::)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on May 10, 2016, 08:47:17 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . . ;)

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.  ::)

Just noticed that Eternal Covenant is #7 as well . . . ::)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 10, 2016, 08:56:54 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . . ;)

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.  ::)

So... Do you have a spoiler of this "John"? ;D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 10, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . . ;)

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.  ::)

So... Do you have a spoiler of this "John"? ;D
I think he means that it is a player made card, not a John.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: EmJayBee83 on May 10, 2016, 11:02:42 PM
Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?
Earlier today I received the final text and card images, and will start entering them in preparation for an update. I am going to try to track down information on when I would be allowed to release the update.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 10, 2016, 11:18:24 PM
Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?
Earlier today I received the final text and card images, and will start entering them in preparation for an update. I am going to try to track down information on when I would be allowed to release the update.

All cards will be spoiled by this coming weekend. I'm 99% certain you can release the update as early as Sunday.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 10, 2016, 11:43:35 PM
Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?
Earlier today I received the final text and card images, and will start entering them in preparation for an update. I am going to try to track down information on when I would be allowed to release the update.

All cards will be spoiled by this coming weekend. I'm 99% certain you can release the update as early as Sunday.

wooo!!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 10, 2016, 11:59:32 PM
Seven news cards to be spoiled on Land of Redemption in about an hour, including a Ruth card and every new Lost Soul!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: wyatt_marcum on May 11, 2016, 01:06:16 AM
revealed up. but I only saw 6 cards.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 11, 2016, 01:18:28 AM
The Ruth card is kinda hidden in there
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 11, 2016, 01:28:41 AM
As much as I hate that sites are getting so much hate with this set and no boons I really love this set. All the revealed souls are awesome and incredibly playable. The Ruth card is pretty good too. ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 11, 2016, 01:44:15 AM
The 7 previews from today's article have been added.

This leaves only TEN cards yet to be revealed, including the 6 remaining rares and 1 remaining ultra rare!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 11, 2016, 08:52:27 AM
Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?
Earlier today I received the final text and card images, and will start entering them in preparation for an update. I am going to try to track down information on when I would be allowed to release the update.

All cards will be spoiled by this coming weekend. I'm 99% certain you can release the update as early as Sunday.

wooo!!!!

Agreed!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on May 11, 2016, 10:18:47 AM
I love the art for the "Open Hand" LS. :)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 11, 2016, 12:28:26 PM
so question for all the play testers......I was looking on ebay yesterday just to see what cards were being sold...and I stumbled onto the new Eli the Priest and the new UR Lost Soul....both together were 20 bucks.  How are these being sold already if they haven't been released??????
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 11, 2016, 12:29:51 PM
so question for all the play testers......I was looking on ebay yesterday just to see what cards were being sold...and I stumbled onto the new Eli the Priest and the new UR Lost Soul....both together were 20 bucks.  How are these being sold already if they haven't been released??????
I already have the new lost soul, i got it at a local, but i haven't seen any others in print yet.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 11, 2016, 12:36:09 PM
Those promos have been released already. There have been a handful of local and district tournaments that have been held where those promos were offered.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 11, 2016, 01:49:17 PM
The 7 previews from today's article have been added.

This leaves only TEN cards yet to be revealed, including the 6 remaining rares and 1 remaining ultra rare!

For the record, Army of Jericho is an actual card...the artwork will be different than the "spoiler" but everything else is accurate so there should be 9...errr, 7 left.  :)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: dermo4christ on May 11, 2016, 01:51:26 PM
Those promos have been released already. There have been a handful of local and district tournaments that have been held where those promos were offered.

ah sweet! I was just wondering...i thought maybe someone was being a little shady....lol. OK great to know!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 11, 2016, 01:52:08 PM
...there should be 9...errr, 7 left.  :)

Three more previews on Thursday... three winner cards on Friday... then on Saturday, the GRAND FINALE!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: h20tor on May 11, 2016, 02:40:52 PM
It may have already been asked, but the new Falling Away, does that mean:

1. The old one is still playable

2. You can't have the old and the new in the same deck due to the same name, art and brigade rule?

3. wasn't there an article about the creation of this one on LoR? I'm not finding it, I wanted to read it again. I remember a year or more ago overhearing part of the conversation about making a reprint of it.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 11, 2016, 02:50:22 PM
Yes to the first and second, and idk about the third
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 11, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
1. The old one is still playable
The old one is still very playable!

2. You can't have the old and the new in the same deck due to the same name, art and brigade rule?
You may only use one copy of each Dominant in your deck. Even though the special abilities are different, both cards are Falling Away.

3. wasn't there an article about the creation of this one on LoR? I'm not finding it, I wanted to read it again. I remember a year or more ago overhearing part of the conversation about making a reprint of it.
There isn't an full on article about the new Falling Away yet... but there will be.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: h20tor on May 11, 2016, 03:49:27 PM
There isn't an full on article about the new Falling Away yet... but there will be.

I would be very interested in reading that one =]
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: spacy32 on May 11, 2016, 04:32:50 PM
Seven news cards to be spoiled on Land of Redemption in about an hour, including a Ruth card and every new Lost Soul!


Wait where is this Ruth card that you speak.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 11, 2016, 04:35:36 PM
Read through the article carefully...  ;D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 11, 2016, 06:54:45 PM
Well now that 98 has been spoiled I'm tempted to say Jannes and jambres might see reprints. Miriam maybe too? Personally I'm hoping for lot.

Looking at it again though I doubt it. Evil wise orange is the only brigade not represented and with about 5 evil cards left I bet at least 3 are orange.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 11, 2016, 07:49:22 PM
I will say that Jannes and Jambres are not in this set. Though they do fit the idea of opposing a Cloud Hero in Moses, they're actually pretty useful characters already--especially with the new emphasis on Exodus Egyptians--so reprints weren't really warranted.

Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 11, 2016, 08:47:02 PM
Well now that 98 has been spoiled I'm tempted to say Jannes and jambres might see reprints. Miriam maybe too? Personally I'm hoping for lot.

Looking at it again though I doubt it. Evil wise orange is the only brigade not represented and with about 5 evil cards left I bet at least 3 are orange.

So the one good card left to be spoiled is a good enhancement with more than one color.  As far as the evil cards, if they are orange they are either a split brigade or Multi-Color.  Based on the numbers and JMHart's guesses, there are 6 evil cards left.  96 will be a evil enhancement of more than one color.  Then 98-102 will either be an enhancement with more than one color or a black evil character.  Then 105 is more than likely a black enhancement.  So that way you don't get your hopes up to much!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 11, 2016, 08:52:25 PM
Yeah 98 has been spoiled elsewhere already. I believe if you look in strategies and combos and then a recent topic about magicians you'll find it. And why would the orange cards have to be split brigade? Is there something barring single brigade orange from appearing in 100-102?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 11, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
Yeah 98 has been spoiled elsewhere already. I believe if you look in strategies and combos and then a recent topic about magicians you'll find it. And why would the orange cards have to be split brigade? Is there something barring single brigade orange from appearing in 100-102?

Yes, the numbers go in order of colors.  Unless there are some to be changed or reprinted after the initial numbering.  Persecuted Church had this happen on a few cards.  So based on that the orange cards would fall into place behind the Gray cards and before the pale green and there are no numbers left in between those.  Now of course I'm not part of the play testing so they could have changed their numbers up this time, but this has been the pattern for the last several sets.

105 has already been spoiled too.  The Guardian Gabe (sorry about that) said that the picture of Army of Jericho wasn't the right one, but was an actual card.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 11, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
So they're doing colors alphabetically through the sets now? I noticed the colors were separated. 100-102 would provide separation for orange that's why I am asking. I'm likely just way overthinking it.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 11, 2016, 09:10:38 PM
So they're doing colors alphabetically through the sets now? I noticed the colors were separated. 100-102 would provide separation for orange that's why I am asking. I'm likely just way overthinking it.

Let me show you the order in which it appears they are doing things (most alphabetical) by this set:

Good Dominants: #1
Evil Dominant: #2
Artifacts: #3-6
Covenants: #7-8 (alphabetical by color)
Curses: #9-11 (alphabetical by color)
Fortresses:  #12-15
Sites: #16 (alphabetical by color)
Lost Souls: #17-22
Dual Alignment Characters: #23-25
Dual Alignment Enhancements: #26-30
    Then alphabetical by color and Heroes before Enhancements
Multi-Colored: #31-65
Blue: #66-74
Clay: #75-78
Gold: #79-81
Green: #82
Purple: Sad Day
Red: #83
Silver: #84
Teal: #85-86
White: #87-89
    Then alphabetical by color and Evil Characters before Enhancements
Multi-Colored: #90-98
Black: #103-106
Brown: #107-111
Crimson: #112-113
Gold: #114-119
Gray: #120-122
Orange: Sad day  :(
Pale Green: #123-129

So I went back an modified this message, because a mono-purple card was not in this set, so when I was listing all of this I completely forgot about that color!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 11, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Ok. I saw the general order. I just wasn't certain if they were intentionally doing alphabetical thereby eliminating the potential for orange or not. We'll see what the cards are soon. Thanks for putting up with me.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 11, 2016, 10:27:00 PM
Added the actual-art version of Army of Jericho (http://tinyurl.com/juj24be) as well as the brand new spoils of Sword of the Spirit (http://tinyurl.com/juo4tts) and Mimicking Miracles (http://tinyurl.com/zcrdm6y).
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 11, 2016, 10:28:45 PM
The art for armies is amazing!

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 11, 2016, 11:43:37 PM
I've been following this and let me be clear - I think many of these cards are too little too late, but they are definitely valiant attempts to change the tide of the game. That being said, the new lost souls are very well designed and I look forward to winning with them.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 12, 2016, 01:05:13 AM
And then there were 4...  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 12, 2016, 01:17:10 AM
The 3 spoilers from today's article have been added!

-This means that all 90 of the commons in the set have been spoiled.
-The 3 remaining rares are the Nats Winner creation cards and will be spoiled Friday.
-The last card, which is the final ultra rare, will have a dedicated article on Saturday.

And then that's it, that's all the new cards!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 12, 2016, 10:18:05 AM
I wouldn't feel bad for orange. I'm guessing that if they didn't get a little boost now, they might  get a huge boost later since we are only a few books away from Revelation at this point.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on May 12, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
I wouldn't feel bad for orange. I'm guessing that if they didn't get a little boost now, they might  get a huge boost later since we are only a few books away from Revelation at this point.
Would love to to see new versions of abadon the destroyer, beast from sea/earth, and red dragon. Maybe it could give demons a strong stand alone defense
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 12, 2016, 10:44:23 AM
I mean a mono-Orange defense (w/ Foreign Wives) got 2nd place at Nationals last year so I'm pretty sure Orange is strong enough to stand alone already...  :P

That being said, I could definitely see reprints of those ECs in a potential future Revelation set.  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 12, 2016, 10:45:33 AM
I wouldn't feel bad for orange. I'm guessing that if they didn't get a little boost now, they might  get a huge boost later since we are only a few books away from Revelation at this point.
Would love to to see new versions of abadon the destroyer, beast from sea/earth, and red dragon. Maybe it could give demons a strong stand alone defense
Locusts from the pit! with not so nightmare inducing art! ;D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 13, 2016, 01:10:55 AM
And then there was one...  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 13, 2016, 01:15:40 AM
Today's spoilers have been added!

The 3 final rares, they are the cards created by the 3 people from 2015 Nats that won the opportunity to design a card.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Schaefer on May 13, 2016, 01:30:29 AM
So many good things about the 3 cards spoiled today. Nice job to the creators.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jesse on May 13, 2016, 08:41:19 AM
So many good things about the 3 cards spoiled today. Nice job to the creators.  :thumbup:

 +1

To quote Vega, this set is "Siiiicckkk!!!!"  8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 13, 2016, 08:59:43 AM
To quote Vega, this set is "Siiiicckkk!!!!"  8)

+1

And we still have the grand finale tomorrow! 8)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 13, 2016, 09:10:03 AM
So every younger (and young at heart) kid is going to feel like they won the game (even if they don't in the end) if they get to play confusion on Son of God before the opponent plays it!   :P
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Drrek on May 13, 2016, 09:49:47 AM
So every younger (and young at heart) kid is going to feel like they won the game (even if they don't in the end) if they get to play confusion on Son of God before the opponent plays it!   :P

It's not about winning it's about sending a message.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Xonathan on May 13, 2016, 09:54:43 AM
 +1

Possibly the funniest comment I have ever read on this forum hahaha.

Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 13, 2016, 09:56:32 AM
So every younger (and young at heart) kid is going to feel like they won the game (even if they don't in the end) if they get to play confusion on Son of God before the opponent plays it!   :P

Which is why the last card may blow your mind...  :o
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 13, 2016, 09:58:57 AM
So every younger (and young at heart) kid is going to feel like they won the game (even if they don't in the end) if they get to play confusion on Son of God before the opponent plays it!   :P

It's not about winning it's about sending a message.

I find your message Confusing.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 13, 2016, 10:00:09 AM
ONLY ONE MORE  :o :o :o ;D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Arrthoa on May 13, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
Hoping it might be a updated or alternate GoYS, seeing how we got that for falling away.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 13, 2016, 10:10:33 PM
super excited for the last long awaited spoiler to go up tomorrow!! also so pumped for the lackey update!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 13, 2016, 10:16:26 PM
Rob gave the word today that the Lackey update can be released the week of May 23rd (the same week the physical cards are expected to ship) if the coding is ready.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kram1138 on May 13, 2016, 11:24:35 PM
10 days.....
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 14, 2016, 12:56:57 AM
super excited for the last long awaited spoiler to go up tomorrow!! also so pumped for the lackey update!!

I'm excited and I know what the card is!  :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jesse on May 14, 2016, 01:04:14 AM
It's UP!! Check out LoR!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 14, 2016, 01:12:43 AM
#gamechanger
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: jesse on May 14, 2016, 01:16:00 AM
 +1

and besides that, I think this card might end up being worth more than Shipwreck!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 14, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
I can't wait to get my hands on one! The level of strategy this card adds to dominant play is amazing! It's no longer about waiting to draw SoG/NJ.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 14, 2016, 02:24:06 AM
The final card is in the list! Sorry for the delay, I'm not at work tonight so I haven't been hovering around LoR at midnight like usual, haha.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Legolas on May 14, 2016, 11:02:49 AM
I'm a little worried for the Second Coming
It's awesome, too powerful and has great artwork! Stellar work.
I'm just worried that like shipwrecked this card will be close to unattainable for younger players with little to no budget. The only people that will have this will be the play testers and other redemption players with a lot of time and money for the game.
I don't know what everyone else thinks, this card is just sweet though.
I'm just a little worried about the demand and price.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Drrek on May 14, 2016, 11:09:50 AM
The good news is that new Jerusalem is still very playable (and indeed has real advantages over second coming), so those unable to obtain a second coming can still play that.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 14, 2016, 11:30:20 AM
The only people that will have this will be the play testers ...

Wait... playtesters get these cards for free?!?  :o

... and other redemption players with a lot of time and money for the game.

Isn't this generally true in life? People with money get things that the rest of us don't? Don't get me wrong, I really want Second Coming, too, but I would also like a Porsche, a bigger house, a cruise vacation, and a maid/butler.  ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on May 14, 2016, 11:45:57 AM
The only people that will have this will be the play testers ...

Wait... playtesters get these cards for free?!?  :o

... and other redemption players with a lot of time and money for the game.

Isn't this generally true in life? People with money get things that the rest of us don't? Don't get me wrong, I really want Second Coming, too, but I would also like a Porsche, a bigger house, a cruise vacation, and a maid/butler.  ;)

Well, you might not have those things, but at least your wife is hot
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 14, 2016, 11:55:47 AM
Well, you might not have those things, but at least your wife is hot

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F72%2F72a5a8b394a15407a8ed56251b937283375ba4cbd7f4a89da4c69bd39c2ac177.jpg&hash=b4488e106108d76e96592c97cc0419dfe7144f40)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 14, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
I'm a little worried for the Second Coming
It's awesome, too powerful and has great artwork! Stellar work.
I'm just worried that like shipwrecked this card will be close to unattainable for younger players with little to no budget. The only people that will have this will be the play testers and other redemption players with a lot of time and money for the game.
I don't know what everyone else thinks, this card is just sweet though.
I'm just a little worried about the demand and price.

GoyS and DoN used to be very difficult to obtain (without paying top dollar from 3 Lions) when they first released. Eventually the supply of Shipwreck and TSC will catch up and the prices will come down. Chase cards like Shipwreck and Second Coming are good for the business side to keep Redemption going, but because they are not absolutely needed they don't unbalance the game between players who can acquire them and those who cannot. (If cards like Angel of the Lord, Christian Martyr and Son of God were as rare as Shipwreck and Second Coming, that would be bad for the game).
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Legolas on May 14, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
Ok !! Thanks for an explanation
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Kor on May 14, 2016, 01:45:05 PM
Guardian and DoN were difficult to get until all of the repacking of old rares into sets started.  After that pretty much all the old rares (that were re-packed) were everywhere and worth nothing.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 14, 2016, 01:59:28 PM
Guardian and DoN were difficult to get until all of the repacking of old rares into sets started.  After that pretty much all the old rares (that were re-packed) were everywhere and worth nothing.

Even before that happened, the dom cap caused a drop in GoyS being used and Destructions were fairly easy to acquire for around $10, which is fairly reasonable for a card that strong that was an UR. The repacking dropped it even further obviously but there was a good supply of them after a couple years.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 14, 2016, 02:02:12 PM
Smh
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: uthminister [BR] on May 14, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Smh

Nice vague post. Care to explain?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 14, 2016, 03:01:19 PM
See redemption meta gaming blog link for details
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: uthminister [BR] on May 14, 2016, 03:07:07 PM
The newest post is in 2014...
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 14, 2016, 03:10:13 PM
Smh
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 14, 2016, 06:08:37 PM
I'm considering restarting as I Start up again but tsc is dirty. Westy is still out thought so I'll probably start a new blog.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: soul seeker on May 14, 2016, 07:02:22 PM
Hey Alex,
  Maybe you and I should do it together. I'm in the same boat with you.  I stopped about the same time, and I roughly need the same sets/cards that you do.  I wonder if we are feeling the same thing?     :scratch:
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 14, 2016, 07:11:24 PM
I'm considering restarting as I Start up again but tsc is dirty. Westy is still out thought so I'll probably start a new blog.

What's "dirty" about Second Coming? It will create even more diversity among dominant selection.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 14, 2016, 10:05:17 PM
I'm considering restarting as I Start up again but tsc is dirty. Westy is still out thought so I'll probably start a new blog.

What's "dirty" about Second Coming? It will create even more diversity among dominant selection.

And it creates strategy and diversity in dominant play where very little existed.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: browarod on May 15, 2016, 01:12:47 AM
Kind of sad to be sitting here shortly after midnight and know that there aren't anymore previews for me to share here. :(

Just makes me anticipate even more the set to actually be available! :D
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 15, 2016, 09:29:43 AM
Can you do a spoiler for the ark?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 15, 2016, 10:20:12 AM
Can you do a spoiler for the ark?

We can and we will when all the details are final. We're very close.

There are a number of other new and exciting things happening this year at Nationals! We'll be announcing those as soon as possible too. The one thing I can tell you right now is that you won't want to miss it!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 15, 2016, 10:30:29 AM
Can you do a spoiler for the ark?

We can and we will when all the details are final. We're very close.

There are a number of other new and exciting things happening this year at Nationals! We'll be announcing those as soon as possible too. The one thing I can tell you right now is that you won't want to miss it!

Dangit! Now i really want to go to Nationals!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 15, 2016, 11:04:28 AM
smh
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on May 15, 2016, 11:06:09 AM
What is your smh for? I know what Olijars was for
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 15, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: Indigo Montoya
You keep using that [abbreviation]. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 15, 2016, 12:20:42 PM
Smh
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 15, 2016, 01:42:16 PM
smh irl :rollin:
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: The Guardian on May 15, 2016, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: Indigo Montoya
You keep using that [abbreviation]. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 +1

smhia
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 15, 2016, 02:57:17 PM
what has this thread even become?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on May 15, 2016, 03:00:42 PM
It's become spam. Consider this a warning that if we continue to veer into the realm of text speak I will start deleting posts
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 15, 2016, 03:21:20 PM
It's become spam. Consider this a warning that if we continue to veer into the realm of text speak I will start deleting posts

awe man don't do that.. you know you are you the Greatest Of All Time
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Daniel on May 15, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
Just wanted to say that from a visual/art perspective this is probably the best set I've seen yet. Love the blended borders and selected artwork, I can really tell that was a priority this go around. Well done!!!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Gabe on May 15, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
Just wanted to say that from a visual/art perspective this is probably the best set I've seen yet. Love the blended borders and selected artwork, I can really tell that was a priority this go around. Well done!!!

Thank you, Daniel. That means a lot coming from someone who has a history of making some of the most amazing player created cards of all time.

Rob gave the elders more freedom to try new things this time around and was very supportive of our work. I'm really excited about what this means for the future of the game!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Kor on May 16, 2016, 01:45:29 AM
Guardian and DoN were difficult to get until all of the repacking of old rares into sets started.  After that pretty much all the old rares (that were re-packed) were everywhere and worth nothing.

Even before that happened, the dom cap caused a drop in GoyS being used and Destructions were fairly easy to acquire for around $10, which is fairly reasonable for a card that strong that was an UR. The repacking dropped it even further obviously but there was a good supply of them after a couple years.

Didn't dominant cap only happen in 2012?  Which was after the release of TexP?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 18, 2016, 03:20:07 PM
Did we ever have a name for the Luke 5:15 promo lost soul?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: RedemptionAggie on May 18, 2016, 03:24:31 PM
The all sets spreadsheet on LoR lists it as Crowds.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Noah on May 18, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
Now that all of the CoW cards are spoiled, if its not too late, I would like to submit my profile picture as the art for Noah's Ark. ;)

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 18, 2016, 05:19:13 PM
Now that all of the CoW cards are spoiled, if its not too late, I would like to submit my profile picture as the art for Noah's Ark. ;)

That looks more like PETA's Ark...  ;)
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: kariusvega on May 18, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
Spoiler (hover to show)

don't be this guy at nationals! boost cloud this season! xD
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: Ironisaac on May 18, 2016, 07:47:39 PM
ROFL! I love these posts!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - New Set Spoilers!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 18, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
Thank you, Daniel. That means a lot coming from someone who has a history of making some of the most amazing player created cards of all time. ...I'm really excited about what this means for the future of the game!

Hopefully it means that Daniel will be part of the team making the next set...   ;)

Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - Set List and Information
Post by: Gabe on May 19, 2016, 01:31:42 AM
The Falling Away article that people requested is live on Land of Redemption!
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - Set List and Information
Post by: h20tor on May 19, 2016, 09:37:36 AM
The Falling Away article that people requested is live on Land of Redemption!

Good article, when using the old Falling Away, in my mind it was more of 'that person was never truly saved,' but when calling the land of redemption Heaven... then I completely see the controversy behind it.
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - Set List and Information
Post by: RedemptionAggie on May 19, 2016, 06:01:41 PM
Quote
One of my favorite Falling Away “blocks” came during a time when part of the special ability on the dual-affiliation Joab said “protect David from harm”. When my opponent rescued with Joab, I converted my David and blocked with him.

I know it's kind of a moot point since Joab no longer does this, but wouldn't Joab have protected David from Falling Away?
Title: Re: Cloud of Witnesses - Set List and Information
Post by: Gabe on May 19, 2016, 07:49:22 PM
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One of my favorite Falling Away “blocks” came during a time when part of the special ability on the dual-affiliation Joab said “protect David from harm”. When my opponent rescued with Joab, I converted my David and blocked with him.

I know it's kind of a moot point since Joab no longer does this, but wouldn't Joab have protected David from Falling Away?

+1

Quote
Dat fool just got aggied! ::)
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