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Open Forum => Prayer Central => Topic started by: Psomaster on June 08, 2009, 10:32:57 PM
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my freind kayla is planning on ending it friday if her boyfreind doesnt talk to her. theres more to it then that of course but shes been pushed by ALOT of things going on lately. plz i need prayer and any help you can give me. im on msn at willben2@hotmail.com xfire at psomaster1 yahoo at pso_master_437@yahoo.com and gmail at psomaster437@gmail.com. plz any prayer or advice will help.
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i assume that means her life. and that is bad do what u can to talk to her about it, and of course I will pray. :prayer:
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she is not on drugs unless the pill counts and yes i mean life.
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and by the pill i mean birth control and its messing with her emotional levels which isnt helping.
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I think you need to just let this kayla thing go man... it's not healthy for you to be this involved in something in another country. take a lesson from star wars *bad dude* Do you wanna buy some death sticks? *obi* no, you wanna go home and rethink your life. :kenobi: *bad dude* I wanna go home and rethink my life. There are so many things that are wrong with this situation with you and her. Please I'm begging you to do what's right for you and your spirit; stop contacting her.
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i cant let such a strong freindship go like this. i have to try and help her the best i can. i know if i dont do everything in my power to try and help her i will beat myself up over this.
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She's going to kill herself because her boyfriend won't talk to her?
That will show him.
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She's going to kill herself because her boyfriend won't talk to her?
That will show him.
Congrats, sir. You just wyned a prayer request thread. :P
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This sounds serious. I am praying.
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I think you need to just let this kayla thing go man... it's not healthy for you to be this involved in something in another country. take a lesson from star wars *bad dude* Do you wanna buy some death sticks? *obi* no, you wanna go home and rethink your life. :kenobi: *bad dude* I wanna go home and rethink my life. There are so many things that are wrong with this situation with you and her. Please I'm begging you to do what's right for you and your spirit; stop contacting her.
I agree. I've been in a similar sort of situation in the last year or so, and I must say, when I stopped getting involved, things got better. I believe this is because I stopped filling her needs with superficial things like attention and instead I wouldn't acknowledge her unless it was a positive attitue, etc. By not paying attentino to her when she did crap, I discouraged her crap, because she just want attention.
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i will pray for her.
suicide is a dumb idea
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Though it is quite dumb, when you are at that point, the call of death sounds so sweet.
The only advise I could offer is to be there for her and show that if she does go through it, you will be hurt tremendously. Depending on her mind set, she might change her mind if she sees that others that she knows and cares about would be devisasted. After all, that's the only reason I'm still alive.
I will be praying for her and for you to be there for her. :prayer:
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Why in the heck is this on the boards? Sorry will but this should not be posted. Something like this you need to talk to her by phone and not post it here. That is messed up.
Anyway to be blunt, she will not kill herself over her boyfriend. She is just wanting attention. Birth control messes with your hormones the first months you are on it. If she has been on it then that is no excuse (and I would not mention that she is on birth control on here either). Anyway I have seen this a lot of times. Girl thinks she is madly in love because they say I Love You :-* then things go south and the girl reacts like this. She will not kill herself, just talk to her and she will be fine. But honestly I would not talk to her after that.
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In times like this i look to 1 Corinthians 10:13.
I will be praying for you...about a year back i thought that same as Mr.Hiatus, but i was proven wrong...and the sadness and devistation she left is unbelievable.
I would try to give advise on how to help but i don't have much, from whhat i can tell you are on the right track asking others to keep her in there paryers.
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thank you cam. your one of the first smart people to post a reply. thank you for the prayers all so far. theres alot more to it now tho and it makes matters worse and more complicated.
i will start with what happened last night. she was waiting for her freind to escort her home since it was late and that place had the local bars letting out at the time. she had her 2nd cat marcelo sitting in her lap purring. she finaly went home. cried herself to sleep and finaly passed out at 6 am. got woken up at noon by ryan calling, ryan is the freind, and he sayed you should sit down, he started bawling and crying and told her marcelo was dead. he was fine just the night before. and their other cat johny was trying to wake marcelo. its one of the saddest things ive ever heard. then she called marks house(her bf) and got his dad to wake him saying it was an emergency. they finaly talked for the first time since friday and she told him marcelo was gone and wanted to know if he would be there to help her through it and he sayed they were done and that it wasnt her fault. great way to comfort her eh?
well now shes at ryans and has been bawling her eyes out and ryans been sitting quitly trying to sleep more. its hitting them both so hard and i can tell ryan is holding it in and its hitting him just as hard as hes spent since xmas basicly alone with both the cats most of the day.
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I would sugeest praying for ryan too...he is taking alot on his shoulders.
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
As opposed to a temporary solution to a temporary problem?
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have you heard of going to hell? It is permanent if you are not a christian. Which I assume she isn't because she believes she has no hope except from her boyfriend.
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This reply is totally unnecessary and you should delete it immediately. Why is it on the boards you ask? BECAUSE IT IS A SERIOUS PRAYER REQUEST, THAT'S WHY!!! I'm getting REALLY SICK of people not taking suicide seriously, you are the 2nd person to do this.
Well I'm really glad you are all-knowing and "experienced", but if you were, I think you would realize that this is serious, not just an attention grabber.
Okay, like wow, Mr. Hiatus immature? lol! ::) Dear Dr. Cameron, It's just as unnecessary as your post. And this shouldn't even be an issue anymore, but Will keeps putting his nose where it doesn't belong and eventually it will be cut off because of his actions. Suicide is serious if it's your business, but in this case it really isn't. It's just like meddling with other people's sin around the world, it really isn't our job to put our nose in everybody's sin problems. We're just here to give the answer to the sin problem and nothing else. This reminds me of a soap or something... Will just turn on your TV to All My Children and stop messing with fire. I don't want my dear friend Will hurt.
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Will, I do think you ought to witness if you can to her one last time and then cease from contact. In times of desperation we need God the most.
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have you heard of going to hell? It is permanent if you are not a christian. Which I assume she isn't because she believes she has no hope except from her boyfriend.
Judge not or you will be judged.
But yeah, fear of hell can be a very useful motivation
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Play her this song: http://www.playlist.com/searchbeta/tracks#elton%20john%20kill%20myself (http://www.playlist.com/searchbeta/tracks#elton%20john%20kill%20myself)
And call a suicide hotline/the fuzz.
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I laughed soooo hard when I saw this...lolololololololololololo :rollin:
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Not to heap on the seeming bad things, but isn't Hiatus from GA? So, like, he knows Pso in the real? Meaning he would know more about it than Cam?
Either way, this is a message board, and so by him posting it here, he of all people should know he's going to get an advice colmun in addition to prayers.
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I'll respond to this tomorrow.
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That's fine; be negative about my comments. But I'm sure Pso knows we all want the best for this situation and we are trying to help in other ways not jsut prayer - giving him the cloak instead of wishing him one as James would say. We aren't being mean spirited. Could things have been said better? Probably. But when comes down to it, we are simply stating our opinions and trying to give advice from the other side of a computer screen. What we say doesn't matter, but by asking us to pray for it, he is obligated to hear our thoughts on it, especially since he has been so public about what's going. Don't pretend like some of us want her to die - we don't.
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I know that PSO has posted many times regarding this "friend", and it seems like she's always in desperate situations. I know that the drama between her and Ryan, her and PSO, and now her and her new bf can be irritating. I know that PSO would be wiser to cease contact with these people completely due to the fact that he obviously isn't changing their lives in a positive direction and they continue to be have a negative impact on his.
However, he has been told all these things before. He has chosen to NOT listen to the wise council that he has been given. Therefore, at this point there is really no reason for people to respond to these prayer requests in any way other than simply saying, "I'll pray for you". Don't bother giving advice, it won't be listened to anyway, and will only make PSO (and all the new board members who don't know the history) angry.
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I am going to make a very short post, then I'm going to take my own advice.
Anyone offended by another post on here needs to take it to PM. Public fights are not good, nor biblical (If your brother has offended you speak to him in private) Messaging ;)
Second. I will pray for her.
Third. BF Problems + a cat dying? Is there more I'm missing? (Not to sound insensitive, I know both can be havoc on emotions)
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I'll respond to this tomorrow.
ok..... I'm going to to the same as RR: short post, then being quiet.
I do apologize to Mr.Hiatus; I should have worded my post differently. Indeed, I do not know any of the people here personally, so I don't understand the situation very well. While I have no clue regarding the maturity of him in general, i do stand my belief that his post was immumature and unnecessary. Saying:
Anyway to be blunt, she will not kill herself over her boyfriend. She is just wanting attention.
shows that you really don't understand what is happening. I urge you in the future to take these serious matters more seriously.
That's fine; be negative about my comments. But I'm sure Pso knows we all want the best for this situation and we are trying to help in other ways not jsut prayer - giving him the cloak instead of wishing him one as James would say. We aren't being mean spirited. Could things have been said better? Probably. But when comes down to it, we are simply stating our opinions and trying to give advice from the other side of a computer screen. What we say doesn't matter, but by asking us to pray for it, he is obligated to hear our thoughts on it, especially since he has been so public about what's going. Don't pretend like some of us want her to die - we don't.
I totally agree.
I know that this entire thing is difficult for Psomaster; I pray that God shows him how to continue, whether that be severance or continuing to involve himself. I really do pray for you bro.
Again, sorry if I was offensive to people, but I do stand by what I said. I pray for God's will, because that is the solution that always works.
Cameron
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ProffUnderwood is a hundred percent correct.
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witness to her pso one lasdt time
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
Oh, I get it. You mixed Andy with Jack Bauer from 24.
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
Oh, I get it. You mixed Andy with Jack Bauer from 24.
Clever, eh?
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
Oh, I get it. You mixed Andy with Jack Bauer from 24.
Clever, eh?
colin, i'm not gonna lie
that was just over the top, inside out, upside down,100% grade A for absolute FAIL
how am i suppose to know who the easter backets that is since i don't watch 24?
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
Oh, I get it. You mixed Andy with Jack Bauer from 24.
Clever, eh?
colin, i'm not gonna lie
that was just over the top, inside out, upside down,100% grade A for absolute FAIL
how am i suppose to know who the easter backets that is since i don't watch 24?
Cool your jets chicho. The comment was to make me look witty to everyone else, not to you.
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
Oh, I get it. You mixed Andy with Jack Bauer from 24.
Clever, eh?
colin, i'm not gonna lie
that was just over the top, inside out, upside down,100% grade A for absolute FAIL
how am i suppose to know who the easter backets that is since i don't watch 24?
Cool your jets chicho. The comment was to make me look witty to everyone else, not to you.
no it was actually meant to tell everyone you don't care at all
cause the boards would be a better place if you didn't post anything unwise like you just did
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stop her immediatly!!!
do everything you can to convince her otherwise!!! now!
Andy Bauer to the rescue.
Oh, I get it. You mixed Andy with Jack Bauer from 24.
Clever, eh?
colin, i'm not gonna lie
that was just over the top, inside out, upside down,100% grade A for absolute FAIL
how am i suppose to know who the easter backets that is since i don't watch 24?
Cool your jets chicho. The comment was to make me look witty to everyone else, not to you.
no it was actually meant to tell everyone you don't care at all
Care about what?
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You know what's pathetic?
The fact that we can't keep from getting in petty squabbles in the prayer forum
Both of you just stop.
If you must keep fighting take it somewhere else
Praying for your friend
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i'll be praying hard.
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thanks for all your prayers and concerns. i know im stubborn on the advice part but i just wont abandon her in a time of need. i just cant. not when she needs all the freinds she can get.
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You know what's pathetic?
The fact that we can't keep from getting in petty squabbles in the prayer forum
Both of you just stop.
If you must keep fighting take it somewhere else
Praying for your friend
Cannot agree more. Andy and Colin, stop posting. >:-(
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You know what's pathetic?
The fact that we can't keep from getting in petty squabbles in the prayer forum
Both of you just stop.
If you must keep fighting take it somewhere else
Praying for your friend
Cannot agree more. Andy and Colin, stop posting. >:-(
colin won't listen to you cameron.
he'll post unwisely no matter what you say.and as for me i didn't start it. i was just giving a bit of perseverance while colin has to act like the most immature child i'v ever seen and start an argument with me
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Well, it's obvious you didnt.
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well idk why i should stop posting.
i'm only speaking my mind when i post and if you haven't noticed.
i rarely post as much anymore cause i don't see threads worth posting in cept the prayer requests where i say i'm praying and root to accept,challenge and report
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Well, let's argue about this some more instead of offering up prayer for an emotionally distraught teenage girl.
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Great idea Schaef!
You know what's pathetic?
The fact that we can't keep from getting in petty squabbles in the prayer forum
Both of you just stop.
If you must keep fighting take it somewhere else
Praying for your friend
Cannot agree more. Andy and Colin, stop posting. >:-(
colin won't listen to you cameron.
he'll post unwisely no matter what you say.and as for me i didn't start it. i was just giving a bit of perseverance while colin has to act like the most immature child i'v ever seen and start an argument with me
Well, you were arguing too. :P
ON SUBJECT: Prayers going up.
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If this wasn't in the context of a prayer thread, Schaef would have won the thread.
Make sure to keep us updated Pso!
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ty scheaf for breaking the ice.
last night i was praying hard for the girl and i'v been doing a bit of research in a book and caught some verses on suicide and now all i need to do is orginize em and make em clear so she'll understand.
cause quite frankly, suicide is a very serious issue and we shouldn't have stupid arguments on a prayer forum
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I hate to break this to you, because it's cool you efforting to help, but some bible verses won't fix this. From what I understand, she isn't a christian, so she's just goign to slap the bible right down. IMO, we're better off praying for Pso not her, as he's dealing with trying to prevent her, so we need to pray he finds something that he cna show her that makes her want to live.
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Pso, let me tell you something. I get that you want to help her, and I'm in a similar situation myself. My "Kyla" is making a lot of terrible decisions and she is actually doing things (not just threatening to do them). I want to help her. But here's the thing: you can be well-intentioned, but do the wrong thing and actually end up hurting her. Sometimes, if you really want to help someone, you have to seem to abandon her. Don't actually abandon her, and don't stop praying or doing what you can do help her without her knowing, but don't "be there for her" either. All that does in a situation like this is hurt you, and perpetuate her dramatics.
And I want you to know I'm saying this out of empathy, not as some person who doesn't know what's going on trying to give you advice. If you want to actually help her, stop what you're doing (which obviously doesn't work anyway) and focus more on prayer and your own life.
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Not to mention that she doesn't even know you in real life. Everyone lies, and suicide threats are the easiest way to get attention and sympathy. She wouldn't be saying the same kind of things to a real life friend or family member.
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Not to mention that she doesn't even know you in real life. Everyone lies, and suicide threats are the easiest way to get attention and sympathy. She wouldn't be saying the same kind of things to a real life friend or family member.
That's an unprovable claim.
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Not to mention that she doesn't even know you in real life. Everyone lies, and suicide threats are the easiest way to get attention and sympathy. She wouldn't be saying the same kind of things to a real life friend or family member.
That's an unprovable claim.
Want to wager on it?
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Everyone lies...
Want to wager on it?
You would lose that wager. I haven't told a lie in 28 years.
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Liar.
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Everyone lies...
Want to wager on it?
You would lose that wager. I haven't told a lie in 28 years.
I meant wager that it's a cry for attention and not a real threat.
Also, by feeding the cry for attention, you encourage her which ingrains into her unconscious that she wants to kill herself.
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Wow. Christians wagering over whether a teenage girl will commit suicide. I bet God is really happy about this thread.
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I just can't figure out whether I should say that I'm "betting for her" or "betting against her".
Either way, I think I'm in the clear.
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If this were the place for your sense of humor, then I might laugh. But it isn't, so I won't.
I forgot that bringing God into this has no direct meaning to you.
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Guys, cut it out. Next person who posts a "wager" or a non-prayer related post is getting reported. Don't think I won't.
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This thread should have been locked (and most of its posts deleted) a long time ago.
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Why?
Some of us have an opinion that this is damaging to Psomaster to be letting this girl mess with his emotions like this. Also, what gives you the opinion that God has an objection to suicide?
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He likely has an objection towards callous disregard for human life, I think is the point.