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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: robm on July 28, 2010, 06:24:34 PM
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Since Box sets are a recent addition to Redemption I was wonder what official stance there might be, for or against using box sets in the sealed deck category?
For example I think it would be really cool to uses a treasure and disciples box with a G or H deck.
If this is not ok for upperlevel tournaments, what about using them for locals or districts?
I understand the cost would be higher but sometimes sealed Deck is just my wife and I, so opening boxes and using them for a tournament would make opening them a lot of fun!
I could see sealed deck costing $15 dollars if treasures and disciples were use.
Rob or an Elder have any official ruling on this?
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When my kids wnated to to Tep with sealed deck I always made them choose weither UL or Prophets as the other two packs just to keep my costs reasonable. They just wanted them for the tep cards.
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I'm pretty sure this would be a bad idea for upper level tournaments, solely because of the amount of high end cards found in boxes will make and break your deck. There are so many powerful battle winners dropped in one box that a bad pack will put you completely out of contention. There would be less strategy involved to win and more of (who pulled the grapes???) or 2 trapped in clevernesses... ect
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I'm pretty sure this would be a bad idea for upper level tournaments, solely because of the amount of high end cards found in boxes will make and break your deck. There are so many powerful battle winners dropped in one box that a bad pack will put you completely out of contention. There would be less strategy involved to win and more of (who pulled the grapes???) or 2 trapped in clevernesses... ect
what about for lower levels?
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what even is sealed deck?
sorry for my ignorance
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It'd be fun for lower levels. I've done it before and it was entertaining.
...and sealed deck is traditionally when 2 players get either side of a starter deck and play against each other with the help of 3 booster packs of their choice to boost their deck.
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thats the problem, 3 booster packs of anything usually isnt enough to match the colors of the starter and help out a whole bunch. texp/disciples would be an excellent idea for sealed, imo.
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Imo, with the current starter it's too powerful to be balanced. The amount of rares in the boxes are so far above 3/4 of the cards in the starters that one good pull makes it completely unfair.
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in my experience, every box of texp is a generous pull, especially in regards to random formats. if everyone is getting good pulls, how is that unfair?
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So theres nothing that prohibits us from using box sets for sealed Deck then?
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Right ..... Its all your and your attendees preference.
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But that would be a fundamental change to an official category that earns RNRS points. I would think Rob would have to make that decision. FWIW, Rob is a generous guy that ultimately wants Fun & Fellowship to be the priority, but I think that we, as hosts, have to be careful not to make these kinds of changes without explicit permission. For instance, you cannot hold a multiplayer category with two people just because no one else showed up and it would be really fun to not waste the prizes.
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I agree.
Note what the Host Guide says (page 2):
Closed Deck (2 player)
Two player only. Players receive one starter deck and three booster packs from the available expansion sets of their choice. They may add any cards from the packs into their deck. The deck they construct is the deck they play.
Are the boxes considered "booster packs"?
[edit] Just noticed that the Booster Draft rules (page 3) say:
Booster Draft (Multi-player)
Multi-player only. Players do not receive starter decks. Instead they each start with at least six booster packs (one each from available expansion sets). Starting with the first pack each player should take one card they want from the pack and pass the remaining cards to the player next to them. Upon receiving the pack just passed to them they then pick another card they want for their deck and then pass that pack on. This goes on until all cards are drafted.
That seems to disallow tin drafts... I think it needs an update. Are the FooF/RoA cards in the tin a "booster pack"? (And, if so, can I chose them in Sealed? :))
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i heard a guy pulled mayhem guardian and don in the same pack.
sealed is no fun with that stuff.
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i heard a guy pulled mayhem guardian and don in the same pack.
sealed is no fun with that stuff.
Only it's more fun with that, because the artifacts you get aren't very good, guardian isn't useful and Mayhem makes the game more fun.
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i saw that on Nationals tourney page that sealed deck would be $15 does this mean they are using disciples and txp??
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i heard a guy pulled mayhem guardian and don in the same pack.
sealed is no fun with that stuff.
Only it's more fun with that, because the artifacts you get aren't very good, guardian isn't useful and Mayhem makes the game more fun.
duh. guardian. duh.
oops.