Author Topic: Tournament Style (Read 20465 times)

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #100 on:** February 18, 2012, 09:42:57 AM »

I have the Wizards program in question at my new store; Gem City Games: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gem-City-Games-Release-your-inner-gamer/172769039489746 . I would be up to hosting an impromptu local tournament with at least 8 players to try this out.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #101 on:** July 05, 2012, 02:29:35 AM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on January 17, 2012, 10:11:28 AM

"If you're gonna lose, lose early." has long been a good slogan for Swiss tournaments.

least your not the one who battles with losing all the time

cincyoldguy · « **Reply #102 on:** July 06, 2012, 03:52:38 PM »

Sorry but this thread really disturbs me. I think of Redemption as a "Win-Win" game where the first win is for the Lord and the second win for myself. I do not believe either is pleasing to the Lord if you win by anything other then trying your best. My daughter and I have been to many tournaments and we can honestly say we have enjoyed them all...not because we have had some success at winning but because we had a sincere feeling of shared fellowship at all of them, (Yes, placing made it more "fun" but not more meaningful). I feel saddened for those that feel the only successful tournament experience is one where they place. Frankly, I am probably a 3d tier player but playing those rated as the best is enjoyable and I will not allow my daughter or myself to feel we have let down the "elite" by not being a more difficult win for the elite. Not too long ago the rules were changed concerning the elite holding back a win to get that extra lost soul as it clearly was not in the spirit of the game to "bury" a weak player.

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New Raven BR · « **Reply #103 on:** July 06, 2012, 04:09:03 PM »

Quote from: cincyoldguy on July 06, 2012, 03:52:38 PM

Sorry but this thread really disturbs me. I think of Redemption as a "Win-Win" game where the first win is for the Lord and the second win for myself. I do not believe either is pleasing to the Lord if you win by anything other then trying your best. My daughter and I have been to many tournaments and we can honestly say we have enjoyed them all...not because we have had some success at winning but because we had a sincere feeling of shared fellowship at all of them, (Yes, placing made it more "fun" but not more meaningful). I feel saddened for those that feel the only successful tournament experience is one where they place. Frankly, I am probably a 3d tier player but playing those rated as the best is enjoyable and I will not allow my daughter or myself to feel we have let down the "elite" by not being a more difficult win for the elite. Not too long ago the rules were changed concerning the elite holding back a win to get that extra lost soul as it clearly was not in the spirit of the game to "bury" a weak player.

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i would like to note that wat i said above about losing was meant only to kid around but i have seriously struggled with defeats in my past but currently im fighting to not care about my losses anymore, cause what's the point in winning or losing? the point is that 2 players go in, play a game to pass the time and have fun cause isn't that really what it's about is having fun? i love the movie "facing the giants" and it's such an inspirational and light hearted movie about a struggling high school football coach who wants nothing but to have an "above average" season and struggles with it and his players don't do so well but then he does some needed meditation, scripture reading and prayer and his efforts pay off when he comes with a in game and in life principle that no matter what happens we need to praise God. praise him when good things happen to us like winning, and praise him when the bad things go wrong like losing. and his philosphy of praising God turned his life and his team around when the team gets to state championship to take on the undefeated giants who were twice their size and speed which applies the story of "david and goliath" in this and in an upset, the struggling team "the eagles" took down the giants to win the state title and more goes on behind the scenes of the games in the movie but i'll let everyone else watch it to see what happens but my point being that no matter what happens in games, whoever we face, we need to praise God cause he is the one that matters the most and also what matters is having fun in the game and having fellowship with fellow brothers and sisters in christ. cause when you think about it, losing is such a senseless thing to get upset over

cincyoldguy · « **Reply #104 on:** July 06, 2012, 04:19:05 PM »

The Lord will bless the game and the participants if in fact the spirit of the game blesses His kingdom. I look forward to seeing how this thread impacts the game. Take care.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #105 on:** July 07, 2012, 06:36:39 PM »

regardless of who wins and loses, it should be a fun tournament

Chris · « **Reply #106 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:53:34 AM »

cincyoldguy, why exactly does this thread "disturb" you? I agree that this game should, first and foremost, be about bringing glory to God, but it also a competitive game, and I believe that there's nothing disturbing about seeking to come up with the fairest way that tournaments should be run. Is there really anything in this thread that suggests anyone's heart is not in the right place while discussing the most efficient and fair way to run a tournament?

Master KChief · « **Reply #107 on:** July 09, 2012, 12:09:39 PM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on February 18, 2012, 09:42:57 AM

I have the Wizards program in question at my new store; Gem City Games: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gem-City-Games-Release-your-inner-gamer/172769039489746 . I would be up to hosting an impromptu local tournament with at least 8 players to try this out.

Did you by chance have a vendor booth at the Yugioh World Championship Qualifier a couple weekends ago in Columbus? I could have sworn I saw a Gem City booth...

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #108 on:** July 09, 2012, 02:01:16 PM »

Nope. We weren't there but keep an eye out for us in the future at those kinds of events because we absolutely want to be involved in those kinds of events.

cincyoldguy · « **Reply #109 on:** July 12, 2012, 01:52:33 PM »

Sorry if my ramblings left the wrong impression about this discussion. I am not disturbed by the discussion but perhaps about what finnally evolves into changes to the game. I have no idea about how other tournament games are played to make them more elite friendly. Howeve, if you can say the changes ould not have eliminated Rebeccah from having the equal chance everyone else had at nationals then I am relatively ok with it. But if you make rules that favor elite players at the expense of newer or less "dedicated" players then I strongly object. Frankly a major reason we both like sealed and booster is that it levels the playing field quite abit with respect to not owning all the rare/new releases and thus building a deck while still favoring experienced players knowlege of the game to an extent but not because they have cards in their collection newer players do not.

This and my previous comments considerd, I will wait to consider the changes the experts make to the game and hopefully can relie on their spirit lead choices. take care all, Allen

New Raven BR · « **Reply #110 on:** July 12, 2012, 02:28:07 PM »

Quote from: cincyoldguy on July 12, 2012, 01:52:33 PM

Sorry if my ramblings left the wrong impression about this discussion. I am not disturbed by the discussion but perhaps about what finnally evolves into changes to the game. I have no idea about how other tournament games are played to make them more elite friendly. Howeve, if you can say the changes ould not have eliminated Rebeccah from having the equal chance everyone else had at nationals then I am relatively ok with it. But if you make rules that favor elite players at the expense of newer or less "dedicated" players then I strongly object. Frankly a major reason we both like sealed and booster is that it levels the playing field quite abit with respect to not owning all the rare/new releases and thus building a deck while still favoring experienced players knowlege of the game to an extent but not because they have cards in their collection newer players do not.

This and my previous comments considerd, I will wait to consider the changes the experts make to the game and hopefully can relie on their spirit lead choices. take care all, Allen

about ruling changes, their only made to balance out the game more and make it more fun and more of a game that is to be seperated from the world's gaming such as magic the gathering yugioh and pokemon. as far as "elimination" goes you'll be happy to hear nationals is always swiss style and as far as the "elite" players go, it all comes down to skill, that's it with nationals is just pure experience. the rules doesn't favor anybody, it's all about how you built your deck, what you have available to play to win the needed souls to advance. i wouldn't call the much better players "elite" cause that would only make them (or us) look like nothing but an army using redemption as a weapon for war. i would more of the lines to call them "pros" cause they have the skill, knowledge and they could make winning a game as fast as a person blinks *blinks* someone just lost a game

but all humor aside, everyone is at a certain level of skill within the game, and even when currently someone is a rookie, they could become one of the "elite" tomorrow. i mean for example, there was one by the name of Caleb, by the time i met him he wasn't that good of a player to begin with but as a very short amount of time went on, he got better and became one of the elite. for me it's not so easy to turn pro as everyone else, but im ok with that cause God has given me a challenge to overcome and by the time i overcome it, i will be at a place where i truly need to be as a redemption player. my point is this, a lil encouragement for rebecca, she may not be one of the pros but alot of the 3 p's: persistence, patience, practice are the three ingredients needed to turn someone pro and one day im very sure, she'll be among one of the elite female players within the redemption community much like Britta Alstad.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #111 on:** July 12, 2012, 04:48:29 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on July 12, 2012, 02:28:07 PM

one day im very sure, she'll be among one of the elite female players within the redemption community

Rebeccah is already in the top 10 female players in Redemption IMO (maybe even top 5), and I've played against her for years.

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #112 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:10:53 PM »

I agree, she is a great player and a great Christlike model of how the game should be played.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #113 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:56:04 AM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on July 12, 2012, 04:48:29 PM

Quote from: New Raven BR on July 12, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
one day im very sure, she'll be among one of the elite female players within the redemption community
Rebeccah is already in the top 10 female players in Redemption IMO (maybe even top 5), and I've played against her for years.

then how is it i have never heard of her til recently? hmm?

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #114 on:** July 13, 2012, 09:44:01 AM »

Were you at Nationals last year when she placed there? Do you attend tournaments in Ohio or Kentucky? Otherwise you probably haven't heard of her because she is not on the boards.

soul seeker · « **Reply #115 on:** July 13, 2012, 09:59:46 AM »

I agree with the others Raven. Rebeccah is the real deal. Her lack of participation on the boards may be why you have not heard of her, but she is good at Redemption.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #116 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:11:40 AM »

Quote from: cincyoldguy on July 12, 2012, 01:52:33 PM

This and my previous comments considerd, I will wait to consider the changes the experts make to the game and hopefully can relie on their spirit lead choices. take care all, Allen

Come visit us in Florida. We still play the way you want it to be.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #117 on:** July 14, 2012, 10:34:07 AM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on July 13, 2012, 12:56:04 AM

then how is it i have never heard of her til recently? hmm?

Like others have mentioned, she's not on the boards. And since you haven't been to a tournament at all in years, you wouldn't have seen her in person. You probably also haven't heard of Isabelle Reuter either, but she's definitely in the top 5 female Redemption players in the country.

Personally, I would put Britta Alstad, Isabelle Reuter, Gretel Coverdale, Rebeccah Collins, all in the top 5, and none of them are active on the boards enough to be household names (other than Britta who used to be more active with old-timers like New Raven and I). I'm not sure who the 5th person on that list should be, but I'm hoping that someday it will be one of my 3 daughters

Chris · « **Reply #118 on:** July 14, 2012, 10:42:49 AM »

Marti still putters around T2 with a fair amount of skill. If she's not top 5, she's certainly top 10. There's also Alex Olijar.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #119 on:** July 14, 2012, 11:13:09 AM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on July 13, 2012, 09:44:01 AM

Were you at Nationals last year when she placed there? Do you attend tournaments in Ohio or Kentucky? Otherwise you probably haven't heard of her because she is not on the boards.

no i have not been to a tournament since 2007, so you would understand why i haven't heard of her, even if others say she's the real deal, i say "Just Bring It" i ain't scared of facing her. if ya'll claim she's the real deal i'd love to see it for myself

Jmbeers · « **Reply #120 on:** July 14, 2012, 01:39:08 PM »

I can't catch what's your deal hear?

Did a girl beat you in kick ball in 2nd grade?

It's a cad game, I'm as competitive as anyone but there is absolutely no reason to be calling someone out who you have never met.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #121 on:** July 14, 2012, 09:16:05 PM »

Quote from: Jmbeers on July 14, 2012, 01:39:08 PM

I can't catch what's your deal hear?

Did a girl beat you in kick ball in 2nd grade?

It's a cad game, I'm as competitive as anyone but there is absolutely no reason to be calling someone out who you have never met.

im not calling anyone out, im just out having fun and letting my possible opponents know that im waiting and i'll be ready to face them. and whoever is thumbing down my reply obviously doesn't like what i have to say, they can deal with it cause i was only showing my determination and my excitement to be able to go to nationals which isn't a crime.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #122 on:** July 14, 2012, 10:07:06 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on July 14, 2012, 09:16:05 PM

im not calling anyone out, im just out having fun and letting my possible opponents know that im waiting and i'll be ready to face them. and whoever is thumbing down my reply obviously doesn't like what i have to say, they can deal with it cause i was only showing my determination and my excitement to be able to go to nationals which isn't a crime.

You're being rude about a specific person, Andy. You can be enthusiastic without singling out this one girl.

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #123 on:** July 14, 2012, 10:59:38 PM »

I think I can speak for all of us who will be blessed to be at Nats this year by saying I am looking forward to all the competition I will face. Not because I am ready to smash them but because I get to spend some time with brothers and sisters in Christ whom I have come to love and respect.

Chris · « **Reply #124 on:** July 15, 2012, 12:21:23 AM »

Travis, I'll miss being in your van like I've been the last two years.

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