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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: Crashfach2002 on January 27, 2010, 09:13:09 PM
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Hey guys watch out! I'm finally setting up my 2010 tournaments starting with a district. Here is the current info!
Knoxville, TN--February 27, 2010
District Tournament. Host: Chris Fachman, crashfach2002@hotmail.com. Location: Colonials Heights United Methodist Church, 6321 Chapman Highway, Knoxville, TN 37920. $8.00 registration fee then Type 1 - 2 Player (free), Type 2 - 2 Player (free), Type 1 - Teams (free), Type 1 - Multi- player (free) and Closed Deck - 2 Player (15.00). Starts: 9:00a.m.
If you would let me know if you are planning on attending let me know! I will let me know how much time I need to spend for each type!
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Im planning on attending. If any of the other GA guys want to drive up and help cost on gas, lemme know.
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Big if, but IF I have money and IF I can get off for this I will go.
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Just so you guys know, I have permission from the man himself (Rob) that if I have enough people ask me to, I can extend my tournament and include Friday night. Now if I do this, the tournament will actually be at a different place, and church closer to GA & west/middle TN, that is big enough for everyone to stay the night there! You will need something to sleep on, but there are showers. Let me know what you think, so I can tell my friend we want to use his church!
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If it ends up being in Knoxville, I'm likely to attend if I can get a physical deck built. However, Knoxville is already pushing it for me, and if the alternate location ends up being much farther from Nashville, I probably won't come.
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If you come I-40, which people from middle TN probably will, it is about 30-45 minutes closer than the original location!
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idk if i''ll be able to make it
i hope i'll be able to.
if i don't have appropriate transportation then it's more then likely that i won't make it
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Hey Clift and/or Eric, if you guys don't care try to see what the guys in GA want to do. If most of you want to come up Friday and stay we will plan on doing that, or if 2 days is too much of a pain, then we will just do one day.
If someone from the Nashville area wants to check it out for me too, that would be great! I know my guys here don't care either way.
I'm just a little concerned because if all of my guys show up I've got almost 10 guys, so expect about 6 or 7, but I hope they can all come.
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from what i can see there wont be anyone coming up except people that were at the last tourny. Josh, my nephew, me...and we dont mind driving up, whatever is easiest for you chris.
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Hey, I am planning on coming down for this tournament if my wife will let me. Do you have a schedule as to how the events will shake out?
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I don't have anything planned yet, but I can put one together, it is more how everyone feels about it. If we decide to do Friday and Saturday, I'd like to play Closed Deck & maybe Type 2 on Friday night, just so we can focus only on Type 1 on Saturday. But I know the GA guys perfer to play Type 2, so if they can only come on Saturday, I might play teams or Type 1 multi on Friday night instead of Type 2.
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wow, alright matt! but please dont bring no sin in the camp decks. i couldnt handle any paybacks. cya soon! oh yea and bring some pictures of that new kid too
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I'd like to play Closed Deck & maybe Type 2 on Friday night, just so we can focus only on Type 1 on Saturday.
What do you guys think about this idea?
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i prefer t1 and teams and BD on saturday cause my dad has to work on weekdays i think i hope i can make it
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wow, alright matt! but please dont bring no sin in the camp decks. i couldnt handle any paybacks. cya soon! oh yea and bring some pictures of that new kid too
Oh no, no sitc this time, I got something better cooking in type 2! and I will have plenty of pictures of the Kid.
as for the schedule, I have a 5-6 hour drive so I wont be able to make it on Friday and was planning on just getting up real early on Sat to come down so if you play anything on Friday I cant participate. I would like to play in Type II -2 player, and type 1- multiplayer but I will play whatever is available if those wont work.
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I can get Feb 27th off probably, but I am not sure about Friday. Please do Type 2 categories on Saturday.
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I'll have to let Rob know before it becomes "official," but we will do closed & teams on Friday night & Type 1 - 2p & mp & Type 2 - 2p on Saturday! If you want to come down on Friday night, that would be cool! If not we will start on Saturday as soon as you get here! I'm also double checking about the alternative location, should know about that tomorrow!
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How come we played cards just the other night at your house, and I have heard no such info on an alternate location? Are we friends? Clift, dotty and chris said you were giving me a hard time about not coming to your last tournament, Are we friends?
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It's because it isn't official yet, and no need to bring it up to the home crowd until it is a definate! Besides I'd make you come no matter where it is! Oh, about the are we friends question, that hasn't been determined yet! ;)
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scratch another missed tournament cause i won't be able to attend :(
cause of lack of transportation and no cash for it since it'll be going to bills and the rent
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Hey guys, the tourney is going to be at the original location (Colonial Heights). Sorry for even mentioning the other place, it will be the place we play if I get the State tournament. We are going to play Closed Deck & Teams on Friday night. Type 1 - 2p & multi-player & Type 2 2p on Sat. Let me know for sure if you are coming Friday night, I have some room at my house for you to crash!
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Ok I got off that saturday and I was already off friday so it looks like me and Clift and maybe Josh and possibly Daniel Whitten can all make the trip friday and be there at night.
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OK good to know we finally have a definite location. I am going to come definitly and I will be bringing a Type II guru, Jonathan Pequinot. I may come down friday night, but only to crash since I wont get off of work until 4:00 or so. I will only be playing in the saturday categories.
BTW. If there is ANY way we can play either closed deck or TEAMS on Saturday instead of type 1 Multi that would be great. But you are the boss of the tourney and get to make those executive decisions so I will be fine either way.
I will make plans to come to colonial heights Next Sat and see you all!
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What 3 categories would you two guys want to play on Saturday? I think everyone else will be here on Friday night.
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My preference would be Type II 2 player, Type 1 2 player, and closed or Teams. Jonathan doesnt have a preference other than he wants to play Type II and has a Wicked deck that he wants to unleash on everyone there. It has been clobering me so I am lookign forward to seeing it beat up on someone else for a change.
I am already maxxxed out in type 1 Multi-player and I will play if it is the only thing available, but if something else is available at that time, I want play that. I would just rather play in a category where I could get the RNRS points.
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Is there going to be type 2 multi? Also please post the schedule asap so I know how much money to bring and what decks to build.
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$8 to play. So Type 1 - 2P, Type 1 - Multi, Type 1 - Teams, and Type 2 - 2p are free (after the $8 of course.) Closed deck is $15, more details on this at the tournament!
So we are actually not playing Type 2 - Multi, sorry! The main reason is that none of the guys down here (well I guess its up here for you GA guys) have ever played Type 2, but me. I'm also really the only one who has enough cards to build more than 1 Type 2 deck, so it has just never been played here. We are throwing it in this tournament to get our feet wet! In other words, a true Type 2 player has a major advantage! Just don't take us tooooooo lighty! ;)
As for the schedule, Friday we will play Closed deck, then Type 1 - Multi.
Saturday, I'm probably going to open with Type 2, just so all the guys from out of town can play, I know some tournaments run long. Then play Type 1 - 2p, and then Type 1 - Teams.
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that sounds good!
Oh yeah, what is the Promo? is it Shobach?
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No it is the Teal dude.
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yeah, I think I'll be able to come.
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That schedule sounds good.
I am hoping to drive down with Matt but I don't know if I can handle the expectations. The way he is talking about me, I don't know if I can live up to the expectations. But I think I wouldn't worry too much if I were you, I've really only beat up on Matt.
Looking forward to it and maybe someday our regions can rival the Minnesotans.
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I won't be able to make it because I'm playing a show that weekend :(
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THIS JUST IN! :D
On Saturday morning from 8 to 9:30 A.M. there will be a boy scout fundraiser at the church we are playing at. (This will NOT effect the tournament) For $5 you get all you can eat pancakes, so if any of you guys like pancakes bring an extra $5 and eat them until you barf! (Hopefully giving us newbies an opportunity to beat you while you are distracted! :D)
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good times...wish I had done a bit better.
btw...did I get third in sealed?
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anyone gonna post a tourny report?
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Do you want results or an actual report? I will do a report of type 2 and type 1 if ya want.
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you played T1?anyway yes i want a actual report.
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Not only did I play t1, I won both t1 2 player and t1 multi, and got third in type 2 2 player lol. I did not see that one coming. Ok I played a white brown deck for type 1 multi and asked Chris what my second color for offense should be and to give me a challenge, he said red...dang it. So I used a nt white offense, with an ot banding with 3 negates for red. It worked very well and the defense was a small brown. But in type 1 2 player I used Z temple priests, just the minimum though, with a demon crimson/orange heavy defense with a Gomer, Judas and 7 sons. The defense was nasty and was the reason I won. I played Matt Archibald first turn and he was playing an A-bomb deck but since his converts did not work and he got A-bomb very, very late I won. I kept looking at his hand with Urim and attacking when he only had discard EE"s in his hand while I had Cov w/ Phineas. He eventually A-bombed it but it was too late. So me using demons, and him getting a not normal draw won me the game rather easily. Second round was verse Daniel and he used a hybrid offense, some teal, a capn, a TGT character, I didn't see TGT, with a Babylonian defense. His defense was good but my defense did not give up any and I eventually got my Z temple band out and he could not really hurt me. So I won pretty big there too, I think both games were 5-1...correct me if I am wrong, or some where around there. Last round was verse John, aka Galadgaywn and he was using a Zeddy/DoM for defense, but other than that no defense. His offense was a nt white women deck with some Samaritans and TGT females. He forgot to add ACiB, which greatly changed our game because he told me at the beginning of the game he forgot it, so I took out his entire offense. I attacked and got 4 and went for 5 and got FA'ed. I won next turn but was surprised I did not use one dominant minus a burial becuase I thought I was about to get an anti burial. So I won that game 5-1 too I think. Overall I went 3-0 with around a +12 differential. For a type 2 player that is not too bad. Type 2 I used a Zeb deck which was 100 cards and it was nasty. It was straight blue with stand alones, trembling demons, Uzzah's, Nadab Abihu, with sites and Wastelands. So I did a site stall and got my hand down to 0-3 every turn. I also had my Jacobx4, Answer to Prayer x4, and RTC x5 so it was nasty but I would not use it after a state tournament probably. I beat Daniel first round and he was using black and something I forgot, and I won really quick. Second game I played Matt who had a combo deck but had his hand clogged so I kept attacking with Dan instead of Zebby to make him discard a vital piece to his combo, sorry but it was funny but mean at the same time. Matt did not have good luck against me that tournament, he got all his ctb cards but no green heroes, so another not normal draw for him and I won pretty quickly. Last round was against Clift. He can post on this game.
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go ahead!
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Dude, I was reading on here after the tournament and didn't realize I was in the presence of some type 2 legends!!! I sure am glad I didn't play type 2. Thanks goes out to Tyler for hooking me up with some crazy trades that were in my favor.
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Anytime Daniel.
To add onto my post of my and Clift's game-
So last round for me and Clift are both 2-0 with a very high differential, I think I was plus +11 and he was +4, maybe? so ok I had a good differential at least. Anyway whoever won got first, whoever lost probably got third depending on John's outcome. Ok so me and him start playing I hope to get a Zebulun because he is using Speed Camp, oh wait they made a ruling so it's not good anymore right? WRONG, it did the same thing to 3 different decks 3 times in a row. The hand limit does not matter it still does a total lock down and you can do nothing so re-evaluate the new rule because this does nothing to SitC. Anyway I do not get a Zebby first turn which was odd and he locked me down within three turns. I managed to get 2 lost souls. John won his game which gave him second and pushed me to third. I hate Speed Camp.
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Yeah I had prettyu bad luck against tyler lol In the type 1 game I got my Three nails the very first hand and he got his DoN either inthe first or 2nd hand. I put Three nails up when I saw a PotW come out and he quickly DoN'ed it...it was all down hill from there. I could have probably given him a run for his money if A-bomb had come out early, but about 3/4 through the game I finally got to shuffle my deck and found that it was the very bottom card! I eventually got it and was able to nuke Phineas and his z-temple, but his last rescue was phineas -zeal and there wasn't anything I could do about that.
In Sealed we played round robin and I had two wins going into my game against tyler. I drew out 5 of my 7 LS's within the first three turns and I drew out the 6th by turn 5. He drew out two LS's one of whihc I resuced and the other he rescued with his SoG...after that he didnt draw a single LS for probably the first 8 or 9 turns or so. Tyler was quite the gentleman and offeredt o shuffle his deck (again, he had of course shuffled it at the beginning of the game) and he the drew a LS. but by then he had his defense set and I was toast.
In type II I had a pretty good deck and I had the combo to win...I just couldn't get my provisions played because I had no green heros. I eventually had to use Rehoboam to set up a side battle between two of my gold heros to play provisions on one of my heros using gideons call. By that time he was up 6-2 and he won the next time I drew out a LS. To really rub salt in the wounds, I got two green heros on the draw after I played the rehoboam play. :-\
NBeedless to say I had a pretty good time....except when I played tyler lol. I guess he is my kryptonite
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Lol I loved that report Matt. It was not anything I did it just everything went against Matt when I played him. Yeah the sealed game was crazy, my deck was shuffled but with 5 of my lost souls in the bottom 25 or so cards. Fun tournament I just wish we had more time to play teams.
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By the way Matt, I beat Clift, but Clift then beat Daniel giving him a positive differential, barely winning ahead of you! Unless of course you beat him head-to-head (if so make him mail you your Redemption Cash)! :D (I forgot to check head-to-head before I gave him the 3rd place prize :()
If you guys did like the idea, I think I'll do closed deck at all of my tournaments, with the round robin style.
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Yeah, I beat him head to head but I am unsure as to how the tie breakers go. I dont know if it is head to head first of LS differential first.
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I think it goes to differencial only if there are multiple players tied. I don't know. Tyler, Clift & you each had 9 points from 3 wins. Tyler had a + 8 or 9, Clift had a + 1 or 2, and you had an even 0. I had twelve points and won first, Tyler had the most points between you three and I know he beat you, I can't remember if he Clift, if so then I actually owed you the 3rd place for the head to head win. But if Tyler lost to Clift, I guess that goes to our discussion about a three way tie, and then goes by differential. ???
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Yeah, I beat him head to head but I am unsure as to how the tie breakers go. I dont know if it is head to head first of LS differential first.
I'm pretty sure head-to-head is first unless there is a three way head-to-head tie. (A beats B, B beats C, C beats A). In that case it goes down to LS differential.
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Anytime Daniel.
To add onto my post of my and Clift's game-
So last round for me and Clift are both 2-0 with a very high differential, I think I was plus +11 and he was +4, maybe? so ok I had a good differential at least. Anyway whoever won got first, whoever lost probably got third depending on John's outcome. Ok so me and him start playing I hope to get a Zebulun because he is using Speed Camp, oh wait they made a ruling so it's not good anymore right? WRONG, it did the same thing to 3 different decks 3 times in a row. The hand limit does not matter it still does a total lock down and you can do nothing so re-evaluate the new rule because this does nothing to SitC. Anyway I do not get a Zebby first turn which was odd and he locked me down within three turns. I managed to get 2 lost souls. John won his game which gave him second and pushed me to third. I hate Speed Camp.
Yeah, speed camp is still strong!
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I would say that the hand limit does slow down Speed Camp, giving the opponent at least a shot. Even though Clift won all 3 games, in the game I played him in, I was able to discard 4 of them. And Andrew was able to get to 6 lost souls before it took over. So the hand limit does give opponents at least an opportunity to win!
I will say that anyone who complains about cards or styles that make people cry/dislike the game need to focus their attention on the right things! Garden Tomb can be stopped, there are ways around pre-block ignore, site lock out is not unstoppable! I think the things you need to watch out for are the extreme type 2 combo decks! Andrew and I both played decks where neither of us got to play a single card for over 30 minutes! Matt had a deck that discarded my entire deck by turn 3 or 4! If I haven't been in this game as long as I have and knew I honestly had no chance in Type 2, with the caliber of players that were at my tournament, I would have been extremely upset by the fact that I had absolutely NO CHANCE to play a single card in 30-40 minutes and had my entire deck discarded. I know the arguement about new players shouldn't play type 2, but that doesn't mean they won't. All this to say, it really doesn't bother me that it happened to me, but I can see this running some "over sensitive" players away quickly.
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Matt had a deck that discarded my entire deck by turn 3 or 4!
*sigh* yeah... ;D that was fun!
I do understand that those decks can really turn off new players, but the same argument could be said for beginners in type 1. I have had kids in my playgroup cry because they havent won a game in Redemption at a sanctioned tournament... It is a process of seeing the decks and trying to beat their strategy.
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I think the things you need to watch out for are the extreme type 2 combo decks!...I know the arguement about new players shouldn't play type 2
Not just "new players". This is exactly why I don't play T2.
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yes i beat tyler in sealed
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yes i beat tyler in sealed
Ok cool! Sorry Matt Clift barely beat you! :)
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Not just "new players". This is exactly why I don't play T2.
Because of a couple combo decks out of plenty of other strategies?
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Most of those other stratgies revolve around limiting the cards that your opponent can play. T2 will always be about who plays the most cards.
For instance:
ANB reset decks with FBTN.
Jake + RTC
SWJ + TGT
100 card Zeb decks
All the Horses + End the battle combo's on defence
False peace + Momentum Change + Bearing Bad News
Auto-blockers
And of course the dreaded Combo deck
All of these are extremely common in T2. And they lead to despair when you can't do anything about it. Because there aren't very many counters to them. Look at the TN district, you knew Cliff was playing Speed Camp, you probably beat speed camp more than anyone else in the nation, yet you were locked out in 8 turns. Your second place deck last year - ANB, my second place deck last year - ANB. All of the rampant false peacing in 2 player and multiplayer. And I haven't seen a deck without Uzzah in it for a long time.